Why no ghettos in dublin?

CiaranC · 10-08-2011 08:15AM

amacachi wrote: »

Aye, when I'm waiting for a bus at night on Parnell St. I'm relaxed when the Blacks and Asians go by. It's only when some dying-looking **** with a barely-decipherable Dublin accent and his stupid hood over his 2 pound head comes along I feel at all nervous and annoyed at the fact that he may well have seen me put a cigarette box into my pocket instead of into the bin and knows I have some.

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cournioni · 10-08-2011 08:24AM

There's one in Dundalk beside the cinema hey...

munchkin_utd · 10-08-2011 08:32AM

the definition of Ghetto goes as follows

1. a densely populated slum area of a city inhabited by a socially and economically deprived minority
2. an area in a European city in which Jews were formerly required to live
3. a group or class of people that is segregated in some way

No mention of black people!!

In Dublin theres a section of the (Irish) population with no interest in education or working and with a chip on their shoulder that they are owed a living. Even in the boom when there was full employment they accepted Bertie Aherns handouts over working for a living.

How can 5000 people in the centre of North inner city Dublin* - co incidentaly EXACTLY Berties constituency - be unemployed at the height of the boom at a time with FULL employment when nearly every business within a ten minute walk is crying out for workers, unless they are the marginalised dregs of society living in a parallel sphere to the normal folk that work for a living and pay taxes.

To me thats ghetto-isation and those folks arent foreigners !!

* (check Nth Cumberland Street Dole office Live register figures for 2006 on the CSO site, flops between 5500 and 4500 depending on the month- UNBELIEVABLE!!)

Sunnyisland · 10-08-2011 08:50AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto

There are no ghettos here not yet, But as the people keep being divided & marginalised & communities solidarity breaks up its only a matter of time before we have them. Adamstown(near lucan) & ongar(near blanch) are two areas to watch out for,imo.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 10-08-2011 08:54AM

Mosney was turning into one wasn't it?.

Monty Burnz · 10-08-2011 08:57AM

It seems impossible to break the link between 'ghetto' and 'black' in many peoples' heads, it seems.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 10-08-2011 09:00AM

munchkin_utd wrote: »

the definition of Ghetto goes as follows ]

In Dublin theres a section of the (Irish) population with no interest in education or working and with a chip on their shoulder that they are owed a living. Even in the boom when there was full employment they accepted Bertie Aherns handouts over working for a living.

How can 5000 people in the centre of North inner city Dublin* - co incidentaly EXACTLY Berties constituency - be unemployed at the height of the boom at a time with FULL employment when nearly every business within a ten minute walk is crying out for workers, unless they are the marginalised dregs of society living in a parallel sphere to the normal folk that work for a living and pay taxes.

One of the stupidest things they ever did,kept increasing dole payments during the good times wtf!

The_Kew_Tour · 10-08-2011 09:11AM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Irrelevant, there's a big difference between visiting a country and actually living in it for an extended period of time.

Have you been to countries like Pakistan, India and Georgia???? lStayed there long enough to know what i am talking about no matter what you say..

The_Kew_Tour · 10-08-2011 09:15AM

Iliana Ancient Spokesman wrote: »

And take it from a guy who has served in war torn cities which were safer than Dublin - Dublin is a dangerous kip.

I respect your opinion from the war torn countries i have been to Dublin would be safer...

dont get me wrong dublin has its fair share of scum no question, but in context to many others imo i would not agree with your statement..

but then again you may have encountered different things to me.

Dravokivich · 10-08-2011 09:16AM

grenache wrote: »

Come down to Limerick City OP, I'll show you around Moyross, Southill and Weston - then try tell me Ireland doesn't have any ghettos!

Shouldn't have to go too far if he's in Dublin.

Jobstown,

Some parts of Clondalkin I'm not in a rush to go to as well and I grew up there...

RacoonQueen · 10-08-2011 09:18AM

Cherry Orchard is pretty ghetto like. Doesn't have to be full of blacks to be a ghetto. Lots of white gangstas' out there...

John Mason · 10-08-2011 09:23AM

As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Dublin mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
'cause if there's one thing that she don't need
it's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto

People, don't you understand
the child needs a helping hand
or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
are we too blind to see,
do we simply turn our heads
and look the other way

Well the world turns
and a hungry little boy with a runny nose
plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto

And his hunger burns
so he starts to roam the streets at night
and he learns how to steal
and he learns how to fight
In the ghetto

Then one night in desperation
a young man breaks away
He buys a gun, steals a car,
tries to run, but he don't get far
And his mama cries

As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man
face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto

As her young man dies,
on a cold and gray Dublin mornin',
another little baby child is born
In the ghetto

John Mason · 10-08-2011 09:27AM

Iliana Ancient Spokesman wrote: »

And take it from a guy who has served in war torn cities which were safer than Dublin - Dublin is a dangerous kip.

and i will raise you Haiti, Kingstown, London and Syndey.

Dublin is one of the safest cities i have ever live in

Edit: Jaysis how could i have forgotten Burnley which was probably more dangerous then Haiti

Sunnyisland · 10-08-2011 09:28AM

Never liked that song and was never to fond of elvis either :-)

Dravokivich · 10-08-2011 09:30AM

realies wrote: »

Never liked that song and was never to fond of elvis either :-)

:eek:

Here's yer coat...

There's the door --->

Android 666 · 10-08-2011 09:45AM

Killer Wench wrote: »

Why no ghettos in Dublin? Hmm... I imagine because there has never been a large enough population of Jewish immigrants to a predominately Catholic island.

Portobello was the Jewish quarter in Dublin in the past. The reason there's no history of a Jewish ghetto here is partly true in terms of the size of the Jewish population in the country but also we wouldn't have the same history of anti-semitism that other mainland European countries had - also I suppose down to the small size of the Jewish community here.

DeValera actually gave constitutional protection to the Jewish religion in 1937 because of the treatment they were receiving on mainland Europe.

starch4ser · 10-08-2011 09:46AM

jimpump wrote: »

unlike most large cities in europe,we dont have any large mainly black/asian areas like peckham,brixton etc. in London.

Because Dublin isn't a large city. 50 or 60 years ago, a city the size of Dublin would have been large but not now. On a world scale, it's just a town.

CiaranC · 10-08-2011 09:47AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Jobstown

Youve never been to Jobstown, have you.

bonerm · 10-08-2011 09:49AM

CiaranC wrote: »

It is safe.

http://best-city-reviews.com/index.php/2008/09/safest-cities-in-the-world-mercer-2008/

The fact that Glasgow made it into the top 50 suggests that list may need review.

Dravokivich · 10-08-2011 09:50AM

CiaranC wrote: »

Youve never been to Jobstown, have you.

I worked in the petrol station up there, I had to keep the door locked most of the time.

Monty Burnz · 10-08-2011 09:55AM

Android 666 wrote: »

Portobello was the Jewish quarter in Dublin in the past. The reason there's no history of a Jewish ghetto here is partly true in terms of the size of the Jewish population in the country but also we wouldn't have the same history of anti-semitism that other mainland European countries had - also I suppose down to the small size of the Jewish community here.

Even the few Jews we have here were too many for some morons - you may recall the pogrom in Limerick and Oliver Flanagan standing up in the Dail in 1943 and demanding that the Jews be 'routed out' of Ireland, like Hitler did.

Jewish people haven't always had an ride in this country, sadly.

Monty Burnz · 10-08-2011 09:56AM

bonerm wrote: »

The fact that Glasgow made it into the top 50 suggests that list may need review.

THE STATISTICS CANNOT BE WRONG
I can prove this statistically.

/sarcasm

Android 666 · 10-08-2011 09:59AM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Even the few Jews we have here were too many for some morons - you may recall the pogrom in Limerick and Oliver Flanagan standing up in the Dail in 1943 and demanding that the Jews be 'routed out' of Ireland, like Hitler did.

Jewish people haven't always had an ride in this country, sadly.

One off instances that weren't indicative of the mood of the general public imo. Also there was public outcries about these instances.

Fratton Fred · 10-08-2011 10:05AM

There's a ghetto in Ballinaspittle, I saw signs for it when I drove through there.

biko · 10-08-2011 10:17AM

There's a reason the spire is called the "stiletto in the ghetto"

scopper · 10-08-2011 10:42AM

Although I think the OP is trying to make a sneaky point about multiculturalism I think the reason Dublin has no hardcore ghettoes (a la French suburbs or London's rough-as-feck boroughs) is because immigration came late to Dublin. Our outcasts tend to be 'white working class' and perhaps less visible to the mainstream in that sense. The make-up of these areas has shifted radically but all this means, I believe, is that we will have a mixed group of outcasts but the reason for their status will remain class rather than race.

Mr Benevolent · 10-08-2011 10:47AM

jimpump wrote: »

it is actually one of the reasons dublin is probably one of the safest places to live in europe IMO.

Safest places to live in Europe?

AHAHAHAHA!

You kidder.

Slunk · 10-08-2011 10:48AM

As soon as i seen the title i thought Tyrellstown. Maybe not now but give it a few years. All around that area will be.

COYW · 10-08-2011 10:58AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

take it from guy who been to 90 countries around the world, Dublin is one safe city believe me

Have to agree with you. There is a small minority of scumbags around but I always feel very safe walking through the city at any time of the day or night. Also, when you go abroad to the likes of India, you see what real poverty is.

John_Rambo · 10-08-2011 11:04AM

chin_grin wrote: »

My lord you're blind!

"my lord" if you think Dublin's cultural enclaves are ghettos that are comparable to Paris, London, Barcelona, Rome etc... you gotta get out of this country for a small trip.

Our lack of empirical misadventures is the reason.

Why no ghettos in dublin?

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