Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Orizio · 22-07-2011 8:06pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Why not drop Canty and Jamie ? Bring in Cadogan and Cotter have Shields at full back I am a big Canty fan but I have to admit his legs are slowing down, and would fear for him in Croke park, but a great impact sub to come on.

Is Anthony Lynch still on the panel or where has he gone ?

Cads and Cotter will start, I'd imagine for Kissane and Jamie Sul.

thefa · 22-07-2011 11:16pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Why not drop Canty and Jamie ? Bring in Cadogan and Cotter have Shields at full back I am a big Canty fan but I have to admit his legs are slowing down, and would fear for him in Croke park, but a great impact sub to come on.

Is Anthony Lynch still on the panel or where has he gone ?

Cotter, Shields, Cadogan, O'Leary, Canty & Miskella to start.

Lynch is on the extended/training panel afaik but doesn't make the match day panel.

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 8:22am

thefa wrote: »

Cotter, Shields, Cadogan, O'Leary, Canty & Miskella to start.

Lynch is on the extended/training panel afaik but doesn't make the match day panel.

Much happier looking at that starting lineup.

Carthy303 · 23-07-2011 3:27pm

Anybody see the artice by Terry Reilly in todays sports pullout in The Examiner.Joe Brolly has labelled Cork Football as primitive and Graham Canty as overrated.He also compared us to a rugby league team and says we "bludgeoned and bored" our way through every game last year.He then goes on to say that Cork are a "dumb" team.Just what has this guy got against Southern Teams and in particular Cork?He'd want to take a look at the typical Ulster style of football before he goes calling anybody primitive.

Rebel1977 · 23-07-2011 3:48pm

Carthy303 wrote: »

Anybody see the artice by Terry Reilly in todays sports pullout in The Examiner.Joe Brolly has labelled Cork Football as primitive and Graham Canty as overrated.He also compared us to a rugby league team and says we "bludgeoned and bored" our way through every game last year.He then goes on to say that Cork are a "dumb" team.Just what has this guy got against Southern Teams and in particular Cork?He'd want to take a look at the typical Ulster style of football before he goes calling anybody primitive.

I can't print here what I think of joe brolly. But lets just say I would imagine that article has been posted in the cork dressing room wall today, no doubt conor will be using that as a motivational tool. But brolly is a know all, sel opiniated thinks he knows it all, he was lucky to win his one and only all ireland medal.

Carthy303 · 23-07-2011 3:50pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

I can't print here what I think of joe brolly. But lets just say I would imagine that article has been posted in the cork dressing room wall today, no doubt conor will be using that as a motivational tool. But brolly is a know all, sel opiniated thinks he knows it all, he was lucky to win his one and only all ireland medal.

Ya I didn't think it would be wise to print my opinion of him either to be honest.He makes my blood boil.Lets just hope we show him up for what he really is and get a good win today.

Rebel1977 · 23-07-2011 3:53pm

Makes my blood boil also believe you me. How dare he slam a great player like graham canty the way he did. Maybe he is jealous of what graham has achieved in his career so far comprared to himself.

Carthy303 · 23-07-2011 3:58pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Makes my blood boil also believe you me. How dare he slam a great player like graham canty the way he did. Maybe he is jealous of what graham has achieved in his career so far comprared to himself.

He actualy said he lacks the skill of the Kerry players.I could go on all day giving out about him but to be honest I've better things to be doing,like watching paint dry.

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 4:24pm

Joe Brolly is a ...........( insert copious amounts of derogatory names) and then add some more!

Charledontsurf · 23-07-2011 4:26pm

Brolly hates every team south of Donegal. I'm surprised he had 'a friend' in Kerry to text.

Carthy303 · 23-07-2011 4:40pm

Charledontsurf wrote: »

Brolly hates every team south of Donegal. I'm surprised he had 'a friend' in Kerry to text.

Ya I reckon he just lied about that.Nothing new there sure.

rebel girl 15 · 23-07-2011 4:59pm

Canty not starting - Cadogen on

davegrohl48 · 23-07-2011 5:13pm

Cadogen strengthens ye're team if anything. I think he's the pick of the Cork backs along with Shields when you weigh up football ability and physique. Think both o those are on a different level to O'Leary, Kissane, Miskella. They are quick, strong and unfussy with the ball. They let it go quick to where it needs to go. Alot of the other Cork backs often look unsuccessfully for their own score or solo needlessly and turn and pass backwards.

refusetolose · 23-07-2011 5:15pm

who scored the goal for cork?

blackbelt · 23-07-2011 5:16pm

Any updates?

RodVelvet · 23-07-2011 5:21pm

refusetolose wrote: »

who scored the goal for cork?

Donnacha O Connor got the goal.

Cork 1-5 Down 0-7

Charledontsurf · 23-07-2011 5:23pm

Gouldings gone off.

rebel girl 15 · 23-07-2011 5:24pm

Cork 2-6 Down 0-7 - great pass from Goulding to O Connor for the goal

Goulding has had to go off injured - looks like an ankle problem

edit - goal for Cork, Fintan Gould

Charledontsurf · 23-07-2011 5:24pm

Fintan Gould goal 2-6 to 0-7

rebel girl 15 · 23-07-2011 5:27pm

http://tykestv.eu/channel1.php is broadcasting it

blackbelt · 23-07-2011 5:29pm

Hard to see Down pulling Cork back in but if the injuries stack up anything is possible.Sounds like Cork are breaking through that Down defense rather easily.

rebel girl 15 · 23-07-2011 5:30pm

Barry O Driscoll have to go off again, Fiachra Lynch on - O Driscoll got an awful belt into the face

Carthy303 · 23-07-2011 5:41pm

6 yellow cards doesn't reflect the free flowing game its been..very fussy refereeing from Duffy.Corks injuries starting to pile up.

Fireball07 · 23-07-2011 5:52pm

A good game, great point-taking from both sides.

Gould's goal was fantastic, wonderful finish.

But Shields foul on McKernan was very very cynical. I suppose it's smart play, he knew he was only going to get a yellow but still...he ankle-tapped him when he was through on goal!

Good game though.

LuckyGent88 · 23-07-2011 6:21pm

Cork looking very good here tonight. A lot quicker ball into the forward line today and have reaped the rewards.

While yee are suffering plenty of injuries, the Cork squad is big enough to cope with them.

on a side note, 30,000 attendance for the double header seems a bit brutal. Doesnt seem to be much Cork support up there either.

Fireball07 · 23-07-2011 6:24pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Cork looking very good here tonight. A lot quicker ball into the forward line today and have reaped the rewards.

While yee are suffering plenty of injuries, the Cork squad is big enough to cope with them.

on a side note, 30,000 attendance for the double header seems a bit brutal. Doesnt seem to be much Cork support up there either.

Yeah, it's an absolute massacre now. Down have fallen apart, Cork's defence are completely on top.

Charledontsurf · 23-07-2011 6:57pm

Good win, in truth, Down were awful in the second half.

Rebel1977 · 23-07-2011 7:03pm

Hope Joe Brolly was watching, another Northern team out of the championship.

teednab-el · 23-07-2011 7:05pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Hope Joe Brolly was watching, another Northern team out of the championship.

Brolly is clueless. Totally underrates Cork football, It might come back to bite him again this year.

denisc · 23-07-2011 7:50pm

Carthy303 wrote: »

6 yellow cards doesn't reflect the free flowing game its been..very fussy refereeing from Duffy.Corks injuries starting to pile up.

There's a VERY strong argument to be made that the EARLY YELLOW CARDS, and PLENTY of em, is exactly what's needed to allow a game to flow.

Serial foulers will think again if they're on a yellow.

e.g. Shields WOULD NOT have hand-tripped the Down man thru on goal had he been on a yellow.

All this hand-wringing about "yellow cards in a clean game of football" is hugely shortsighted.

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 8:02pm

teednab-el wrote: »

Brolly is clueless. Totally underrates Cork football, It might come back to bite him again this year.

I would think RTE should give him the P45 - I have a real bone of hatred for that man, the kind of one that gets a lengthy ban!

What a stunning performance by the Rebels though - thoroughly enjoyable game, really nice to enjoy the last 25 mins for a change!!!!!
Bring on Mayo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 8:14pm

denisc wrote: »

There's a VERY strong argument to be made that the EARLY YELLOW CARDS, and PLENTY of em, is exactly what's needed to allow a game to flow.

Serial foulers will think again if they're on a yellow.

e.g. Shields WOULD NOT have hand-tripped the Down man thru on goal had he been on a yellow.

All this hand-wringing about "yellow cards in a clean game of football" is hugely shortsighted.

I see your point but Shields was not on a yellow because he hadn't fouled upto that point and he knew it and he didn't foul after that. Also a few of the Down players that had yellows were in fact taken off. Some of the better players can find themselves taken off as a result of a poor challenge which might not aid the game in anyway.
But I have a problem with a Cork player getting a shoulder into the chest in the penalty area and the ref waves play on instead of giving a pen, but that's another story!;)

Rebel1977 · 23-07-2011 8:21pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I see your point but Shields was not on a yellow because he hadn't fouled upto that point and he knew it and he didn't foul after that. Also a few of the Down players that had yellows were in fact taken off. Some of the better players can find themselves taken off as a result of a poor challenge which might not aid the game in anyway.
But I have a problem with a Cork player getting a shoulder into the chest in the penalty area and the ref waves play on instead of giving a pen, but that's another story!;)

If Goulding is out the next day he will be a HUGE loss, not just from play but frees on the right hand side and 45's

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 8:25pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

If Goulding is out the next day he will be a HUGE loss, not just from play but frees on the right hand side and 45's

Hopefully he'll be back, if not they will play down the other side a bit more I reckon. Cannot wait for the draw tomorrow, really want Mayo....for some reason. Kildare V Kerry would be very nice. Donegal have a very strong ( if limited ) game plan. The Dubs.....well they are the Dubs;)

keep going · 23-07-2011 10:08pm

we are running out of players though,its alright we talk about strenght in depth but i dont think the others players are quiet there yet but we,ll see

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 10:20pm

keep going wrote: »

we are running out of players though,its alright we talk about strenght in depth but i dont think the others players are quiet there yet but we,ll see

True, but the starting 15 did ok tonight and some of the ones that came on aren't known to many outside the county but did an ok job. We really cannot afford to be down Goulding the next day though. Down 3 starting forwards for any team would be very hard indeed.

Really impressed with the way Donnacha played this evening - showing a real maturity now - even tracking back! He has come of age in the last 12 months. Kelly - yet again - did a savage amount of donkey work. So many positives from a game that could have been a banana skin if the attitude wasn't right from the start.

rebel girl 15 · 23-07-2011 10:20pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

If Goulding is out the next day he will be a HUGE loss, not just from play but frees on the right hand side and 45's

Counihan said he should be fit for the next day

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 10:21pm

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Counihan said he should be fit for the next day

Happy days !!

Rebel1977 · 23-07-2011 10:29pm

Love if Cork people would e-mail/text/tweet the Sunday Game and get joe brollys view on the weekend games. i.e. 3 munster teams in the last 8, 2 northern teams beaten today, just shows northern football not up to the standard.

ShamoBuc · 23-07-2011 10:36pm

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Love if Cork people would e-mail/text/tweet the Sunday Game and get joe brollys view on the weekend games. i.e. 3 munster teams in the last 8, 2 northern teams beaten today, just shows northern football not up to the standard.

It was probably the refs fault;)

I think everyone is wise to his 'comments', in actual fact he's getting a bit boring and predictable now.

teednab-el · 24-07-2011 1:51am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Really impressed with the way Donnacha played this evening - showing a real maturity now - even tracking back! He has come of age in the last 12 months.

I agree.

I work in Kerry and the lads there were laughing when Kevin Mc Stay said on the Sunday Game that Donnacha could be the one that will light up the championship in 2011. The lads joked "he wouldn't light up a match never mind a championship".

Well, hes certainly doing that so far and is doing more than what the Gooch is for a player that is underrated by so many critics. Nothing better to prove his critics wrong. They mightn't be laughing now. Keep up the good work Donnacha!

teednab-el · 24-07-2011 1:56am

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Love if Cork people would e-mail/text/tweet the Sunday Game and get joe brollys view on the weekend games. i.e. 3 munster teams in the last 8, 2 northern teams beaten today, just shows northern football not up to the standard.

What does Brolly actually know about football? he was very lucky to win an All Ireland back in 1993 with Derry and all of a sudden he has gods given right to criticise some of Corks players. Talks about how good Ulster teams defend and Derry and Down get blown away today. Wise up Brolly for once!

Carthy303 · 24-07-2011 3:43am

denisc wrote: »

There's a VERY strong argument to be made that the EARLY YELLOW CARDS, and PLENTY of em, is exactly what's needed to allow a game to flow.

Serial foulers will think again if they're on a yellow.

e.g. Shields WOULD NOT have hand-tripped the Down man thru on goal had he been on a yellow.

All this hand-wringing about "yellow cards in a clean game of football" is hugely shortsighted.

Michael Shields is hardly a serial fouler.He hadnt given away a free before that and I dont think he gave away one after that.Early yellow cards is one thing but for Down to end the match with 8 and Cork with 5(Im willing to stand corrected on that) is a bit much.Nobody seems to know what Martin Clarke got his two yellow cards for,including those plugs on tv3 who couldn't even show a replay of either incident.13 yellow cards did definitely not relflect fairly on the game.At the end of the day Duffy is just a very fussy referee,IMO!

Carthy303 · 24-07-2011 3:52am

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Love if Cork people would e-mail/text/tweet the Sunday Game and get joe brollys view on the weekend games. i.e. 3 munster teams in the last 8, 2 northern teams beaten today, just shows northern football not up to the standard.

Just sent em a nice and polite tweet!Let him have it I say.If only Canty took a goal instead of fisting the point that time,We could have had a field day :P

Rebel1977 · 24-07-2011 9:31am

Carthy303 wrote: »

Michael Shields is hardly a serial fouler.He hadnt given away a free before that and I dont think he gave away one after that.Early yellow cards is one thing but for Down to end the match with 8 and Cork with 5(Im willing to stand corrected on that) is a bit much.Nobody seems to know what Martin Clarke got his two yellow cards for,including those plugs on tv3 who couldn't even show a replay of either incident.13 yellow cards did definitely not relflect fairly on the game.At the end of the day Duffy is just a very fussy referee,IMO!

He is just like his brother loves being involved and is so so fussy

denisc · 24-07-2011 9:45am

Carthy303 wrote: »

Michael Shields is hardly a serial fouler.He hadnt given away a free before that and I dont think he gave away one after that.Early yellow cards is one thing but for Down to end the match with 8 and Cork with 5(Im willing to stand corrected on that) is a bit much.Nobody seems to know what Martin Clarke got his two yellow cards for,including those plugs on tv3 who couldn't even show a replay of either incident.13 yellow cards did definitely not relflect fairly on the game.At the end of the day Duffy is just a very fussy referee,IMO!

Is it really such a big deal if a fellas end the match on a yellow card? Where's the problem? People have the soccer "mindset" imo when they hear about yellow cards.
Players in soccer will try to avoid picking up yellows cos they ultimately lead to suspensions. If there are 10 yellows in soccer, then almost certainly that suggests it was a dirty match.

It's not the same in GAA. Particularly in football, yellows are absolutely vital to reduce the amount of pulling and grabbing that so many players engage in. It doesn't mean it's a dirty match.

You may call Duffy "fussy" but yesterday's match had a great flow to it.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-07-2011 10:44am

teednab-el wrote: »

What does Brolly actually know about football? he was very lucky to win an All Ireland back in 1993 with Derry and all of a sudden he has gods given right to criticise some of Corks players. Talks about how good Ulster teams defend and Derry and Down get blown away today. Wise up Brolly for once!

If Cork had picked the right team in 1993 Brolly would have a reason to hate us...He should be thankful that Cork gave him an AI medal...

I was hoping we meet Derry at some stage...No disrespect to Derry I was there in 1993 and their fans were nothing short of fantastic and gracious and I will always remember being 10 years old in terrace and few Derry fans happened to be in the way they made apology to my Dad and got out the way...

But Brolly is making me despise Ulster football a little which is a pity because most of us in Cork would have been few counties that were glad that Ulster football got to where it was.

Show Time · 24-07-2011 11:09am

teednab-el wrote: »

What does Brolly actually know about football? he was very lucky to win an All Ireland back in 1993 with Derry and all of a sudden he has gods given right to criticise some of Corks players. Talks about how good Ulster teams defend and Derry and Down get blown away today. Wise up Brolly for once!

Brolly is a p***k and everyone now knows that the GAA up north is a jokeshop for the rest of the country.

sendit · 24-07-2011 12:06pm

Carthy303 wrote: »

Anybody see the artice by Terry Reilly in todays sports pullout in The Examiner.Joe Brolly has labelled Cork Football as primitive and Graham Canty as overrated.He also compared us to a rugby league team and says we "bludgeoned and bored" our way through every game last year.He then goes on to say that Cork are a "dumb" team.Just what has this guy got against Southern Teams and in particular Cork?He'd want to take a look at the typical Ulster style of football before he goes calling anybody primitive.

If you actually look at what he says he has a point

''On Sunday in Killarney, they floundered, but still managed to keep in touch, courtesy of hard running, frees and the virtually obligatory penalty. The over-rated Graham Canty was again shown up, by both Star and Declan O'Sullivan.
Four points from play in the first half doesn't tell the whole story. What do people see in Canty? A Kerry man texted me at half-time.
- I dont know was my response.
In fairness, Kerry people are very harsh judges of a footballer. Someone like Graham, whose strengths are his physique, athleticism and never say die attitude underwhelms them. They have that in Kerry, but on top of that they have the skills. Graham does not. He has been described as a star in the hybrid Rules game and is always discussed as a great in the media. I dont see it.''

You cant really say anything against that (no dout ye will find some way to though) Cany has none of the skills you just have to see him soloing the ball to see that!

Hes a graet man to drive a team on but not as good a player as people make him out to be

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 12:19pm

sendit wrote: »

If you actually look at what he says he has a point

''On Sunday in Killarney, they floundered, but still managed to keep in touch, courtesy of hard running, frees and the virtually obligatory penalty. The over-rated Graham Canty was again shown up, by both Star and Declan O'Sullivan.
Four points from play in the first half doesn't tell the whole story. What do people see in Canty? A Kerry man texted me at half-time.
- I dont know was my response.
In fairness, Kerry people are very harsh judges of a footballer. Someone like Graham, whose strengths are his physique, athleticism and never say die attitude underwhelms them. They have that in Kerry, but on top of that they have the skills. Graham does not. He has been described as a star in the hybrid Rules game and is always discussed as a great in the media. I dont see it.''
You cant really say anything against that (no dout ye will find some way to though) Cany has none of the skills you just have to see him soloing the ball to see that!

Hes a graet man to drive a team on but not as good a player as people make him out to be

Stopped reading there to be honest;)

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