After Hours, one and only Queen thread

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 09:53PM

In The Trees wrote: »

Why are the Uvf and the british military known as the forgotten?

My apologies InThetrees, But I intended to say or as most people who have a interest in our political history would know,I was talking about the 26 people who were murdered in Dublin and not forgetting the other seven that were murdered in Monaghan and that day has the terrible distinction of being the worst ever atrocity of the so called troubles, All done in the queens name.

dj jarvis · 17-05-2011 09:53PM

My name is URL wrote: »

How is it? The people making comments like 'where were all the peaceful republicans' obviously don't even know the meaning of the term..

According to Micky, everyone who has ever identified themselves as a republican is a scumbag!

hang on a mo .... as i said to wolf tone a few pages back
i stopped going to similar protests/marches BECAUSE of the amount of non political violent hanger on's , they have hijacked a noble aspiration.
its getting to the stage where flying the nations flag will get you a dig off the fuzz because 9 times out of ten its a ****ing brain dead dickhead that is holding one

i hate using class as a description of anyone but for this i will ,
20 years ago all sections of irish society attended republican rally's
now its a certain type from a certain " class " - hijacked

its no coincidence that the moderate are missing from these events because they dont want to be associated with these wasters

the big loser is republicanism because the powers that be will look at the fact that every time they gather trouble erupts - and will start to ban them from marching

dont forget who is in power - if the republican leadership don't address this then soon it will be the playground of gob****es and the state will deal with them as such

pablomakaveli · 17-05-2011 09:56PM

realies wrote: »

My apologies InThetrees, But I intended to say or as most people who have a interest in our political history would know,I was talking about the 26 people who were murdered in Dublin and not forgetting the other seven that were murdered in Monaghan and that day has the terrible distinction of being the worst ever atrocity of the so called troubles, All done in the queens name.

I dont think anyone here is dismissing that. I certainly ament. But maybe improving relations with Britian will improve the chances of disclosure. It'll be hard to get anywhere if relations are frosty.

The Left Hand Of God · 17-05-2011 09:56PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Re-read my post. Every one i've met has been a scumbag. Bit of a difference.

You live on De Nort Side? roight?

Cos that the only way that can be true.

humanji · 17-05-2011 09:57PM

realies wrote: »

I was at the commemoration for the 26 people murdered by the Uvf & British military,or as more commonly knowing as the forgotten. But it seems its only republican violence that is remembered here by the usual select few.

Strange, I've seen plenty of people here going on and on about British atrocities and glossing over republican violence. Some people seem to have some sort of blinkered view of history where only the crimes of the enemy count.

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 09:59PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

That wasn't really a protest though, was it?

Its an ongoing protest but unfortunately does not get the attention it duly deserves, To many people In very high places might get ;embarrassed:
Maybe this year could be different ?.

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 10:01PM

humanji wrote: »

Strange, I've seen plenty of people here going on and on about British atrocities and glossing over republican violence. Some people seem to have some sort of blinkered view of history where only the crimes of the enemy count.

You have never seen me gloss over any violence.

holyhead · 17-05-2011 10:01PM

realies wrote: »

My apologies InThetrees, But I intended to say or as most people who have a interest in our political history would know,I was talking about the 26 people who were murdered in Dublin and not forgetting the other seven that were murdered in Monaghan and that day has the terrible distinction of being the worst ever atrocity of the so called troubles, All done in the queens name.

Realies is it possible our government, the irish government, has questions to answer over the various IRA attrocities committed both in Northern Ireland and on the UK mainland. Could you argue that those attacks were committed in the name of the irish people. They were the Irish republican army right?

lastlaugh · 17-05-2011 10:02PM

I was watching the news earlier and saw some 'Protesters' in town in clashes with the Police.

What would you think would be appropriate punishmment for those arrested?
(or for those identified vandalising/attacking Guards)

Stop Social Welfare payments? Community service?

Although people have a right to protest, should this violence have been dealt with more severely?

(sorry for barging in here)

mickydoomsux · 17-05-2011 10:03PM

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

You live on De Nort Side? roight?

Cos that the only way that can be true.

Nope. South-east of the country. I love how it's presumed that if you call a spade a spade you must be terribly middle-class. I grew up in a council estate.

How does where i live/lived change what other people are?

m@cc@ · 17-05-2011 10:04PM

holyhead wrote: »

Realies is it possible our government, the irish government, has questions to answer over the various IRA attrocities committed both in Northern Ireland and on the UK mainland.

No. The provisional IRA have never been a legitimate army no matter what support from within inside the Irish government.

Cool_CM · 17-05-2011 10:11PM

realies wrote: »

All done in the queens name.

In the same way that the atrocities committed by the PIRA et al. were carried out in the name of Irish people?

Wheelie King · 17-05-2011 10:14PM

Spudmonkey wrote: »

Some of those tits were there with nothing other than trouble in mind. I mean that ape with his Man Utd jersey stuck in the middle, I swear....

Agreed. What the hell have these guy's got no brain. Seriously.

InTheTrees · 17-05-2011 10:14PM

m@cc@ wrote: »

No. The provisional IRA have never been a legitimate army no matter what support from within inside the Irish government.

So illegitimacy means immunity?

Thats odd.

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 10:16PM

holyhead wrote: »

Reality is it possible our government, the irish government, has questions to answer over the various IRA atrocities committed both in Northern Ireland and on the UK mainland. Could you argue that those attacks were committed in the name of the irish people. They were the Irish republican army right?

I cant answer that, But it is known that the British had a major part in the Dublin & monaghan bombings, But this is side tracking this lovely thread:D,So maybe its there to be discussed another day.

Ps its realies not reality

Wheelie King · 17-05-2011 10:21PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

So where are all the "peaceful" republicans then? To my knowledge the only protesters out today were utter scumbags, much like every person i've met that identifies themselves as a republican.

And isn't it all basically "Brits out" in the end anyway? It's like saying you're a racist but not "that kind of racist".

So all republicans are scumbags? Is that what you are saying.

Griffen262 · 17-05-2011 10:22PM

On a lighter note...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN-FgtlKRT0

A Dub in Glasgo · 17-05-2011 10:22PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

So illegitimacy means immunity?

Thats odd.

What is odd is you thinking that the IRA had immunity. There are thousands of members who have been imprisioned. What is different here is the British state never took their obligations seriously which has meant there are plenty of people in the employ of the British state who have killed civilians and have not been subject to the justice system.

Mike 1972 · 17-05-2011 10:23PM

Anyone else spot the insult levelled at the Gardai by RTE this evening......

At one point there seemed to be more Gardai than people in O Connell
Street

Seemingly Gardai are not people ?

Wheelie King · 17-05-2011 10:23PM

Seriously people saying the Gardai did a good job today but they let Bertie and Cowen into within spitting distance of the Queen, two of the biggest crooks in the country.

My name is URL · 17-05-2011 10:26PM

Wheelie King wrote: »

Seriously people saying the Gardai did a good job today but they let Bertie and Cowen into within spitting distance of the Queen, two of the biggest crooks in the country.

A very fair point! They even got to comment on what the visit means for the country..

Miguel_Sanchez · 17-05-2011 10:26PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Anyone else spot the insult levelled at the Gardai by RTE this evening......

Seemingly Gardai are not people ?

They're like nuns in that regard so?

Sunnyisland · 17-05-2011 10:30PM

Cool_CM wrote: »

In the same way that the atrocities committed by the PIRA et al. were carried out in the name of Irish people?

No its not in the same way at all, This was an operation approved by the British military ,with the joint committee on justice saying , we are dealing with acts of international terrorism that were colluded in by the british army.

Pauleta · 17-05-2011 10:32PM

Wheelie King wrote: »

Seriously people saying the Gardai did a good job today but they let Bertie and Cowen into within spitting distance of the Queen, two of the biggest crooks in the country.

She doesnt carry cash so there was no chance of them pickpocketing her.

iamwhoiam · 17-05-2011 10:34PM

Wheelie King wrote: »

Seriously people saying the Gardai did a good job today but they let Bertie and Cowen into within spitting distance of the Queen, two of the biggest crooks in the country.

I am not a huge royal fan but seeing those two eejits made my blood boil today .Respect to the Queen she laid a wreath , what did them two gob****e do for us ...............

Oh_Noes · 17-05-2011 10:35PM

Griffen262 wrote: »

On a lighter note...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN-FgtlKRT0

I kept noticing this today when the soldier raised his sword and turned it in front of his face.

It looks like he's smelling it and it smells so lovely that he has to lift it up to his face to smell its loveliness every few minutes. Quite odd but funny in a weird way.

hobbit stomper · 17-05-2011 10:36PM

phasers wrote: »

What exactly is there to talk about beside everything you've excluded?

Anything you can find :-)

Try http://iwillusegooglebeforeaskingdumbquestions.com :P

Dudess · 17-05-2011 10:36PM

realies wrote: »

My apologies InThetrees, But I intended to say or as most people who have a interest in our political history would know,I was talking about the 26 people who were murdered in Dublin and not forgetting the other seven that were murdered in Monaghan and that day has the terrible distinction of being the worst ever atrocity of the so called troubles, All done in the queens name.

Done in the queen's name? Even if it was, I doubt she approved.

tayto lover · 17-05-2011 10:38PM

m@cc@ wrote: »

The fella with the packet of ham is a cracker. Nothing like a hang sandwich for asserting your 'Irishness'

No that lad had a packet of sausages. He was probably told to bring bangers to throw at the gardai but being the bright chap he is he took sausages.

Mayo Exile · 17-05-2011 10:38PM

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Celtic FC?

No.

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