Dry Spell

parker kent · 07-05-2011 5:48pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

Bah, I tried so hard not to make this thread into a 'male vs female' slagging match. Apologises if my crass generations offended anyone (apart from UCD women of course )

The UCD tango stereotype is said far too much in my view. There are not THAT many girls in UCD like that. There are basically girls of every variety. Same as any university in any country in the world. There will be 18 year olds who don't understand make-up, tanning etc who go a little crazy in first year alright, but there are more than enough other types.

I would also add that some girls are written off as Fade Street/Hills etc wanabees and they are actually perfectly nice girls if you got to know them.

TaraFoxglove · 07-05-2011 5:52pm

parker kent wrote: »

I would also add that some girls are written off as Fade Street/Hills etc wanabees and they are actually perfectly nice girls if you got to know them.

Yup, exactly. I've known some very nice permatans. I didn't go to UCD but thinking back to my female-dominated class, there were NO fake-tanned girls in the class at all. You'd see the odd one around campus, looking ridiculous, but I found college to be a very stylish place on the whole.

Phat Cat wrote: »

Finally I work with alot of Irish women and they drive me around the bend on a daily basis, I mean the contrast of their attitudes and overall demeanour compared to their male co-workers is shocking at times.

Having worked in both Irish and foreign workplaces, there is politics and bitching EVERYWHERE, absolutely everywhere.

I especially hate how we are often branded as being superficial, as if there are no gold-digging women anywhere else in the world. :pac:

TBH, if I was interested in a guy and he told me he doesn't consider Irish women, my interest in him would wane pretty quickly, not just because he wouldn't be interested in me, but because I'd kinda lose a bit of respect for him for not being able to judge people individually on their own merits. It would imply to me a inability to think logically and allowing themselves to be ruled by emotions and that's kind-of a turn-off to me personally. I'd be much more interested in a parker kent than a Phat Cat. :pac:

Phat Cat · 07-05-2011 6:05pm

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

I especially hate how we are often branded as being superficial, as if there are no gold-digging women anywhere else in the world. :pac:

I don't think Irish women are typically superficial people for the most part, at least not compared to other poorer countries. But thanks to the Celtic Tiger there is a new breed of über materialistic women around, but that would a percentage of women in general IMO, regardless of nationality or social standing.

Phat Cat · 07-05-2011 6:07pm

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

I'd be much more interested in a parker kent than a Phat Cat. :pac:

Phat Cat is a married man young lady!

Otis Driftwood · 07-05-2011 6:08pm

Ok guys thats enough.This thread has turned into an Irish women are blah blah blah unfounded and crass generalisations thread.For new posters I direct you to our charter,please familiarise yourselves with it and cut the crap.Cheers.

beano345 · 07-05-2011 6:08pm

I also have 3 sisters and even though I love them all to bits I would could never personally see myself with women similar to them

join the club live with three of them and they are a nightmare to live with can't even manage to be nice to each other half the time;)

Phat Cat · 07-05-2011 6:21pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Ok guys thats enough.This thread has turned into an Irish women are blah blah blah unfounded and crass generalisations thread.For new posters I direct you to our charter,please familiarise yourselves with it and cut the crap.Cheers.

Sorry Otis, that really wasn't my intention as I stated in my OP. Apologise if I contributed in dragged it off topic.

Raekwon · 07-05-2011 6:56pm

beano345 wrote: »

very true i always find the schoolyard glances abit childish unless your going to approach that person.on a brighter note my dry spell ended last week thank f**k:D

Ah nice one man! How long was the dry spell that you were coming out of?

beano345 · 07-05-2011 9:33pm

Raekwon wrote: »

Ah nice one man! How long was the dry spell that you were coming out of?

378 days 3 hours 10 minutes:pac: nah just over over a year.was'nt really expecting it was out in a nightclub last week got chatting to a swiss girl after trying to swipe one of her straws out of her drink just messing when her head was turned......i always knew crime would pay:pac:

TaraFoxglove · 07-05-2011 9:39pm

beano345 wrote: »

378 days 3 hours 10 minutes:pac: nah just over over a year.was'nt really expecting it was out in a nightclub last week got chatting to a swiss girl after trying to swipe one of her straws out of her drink just messing when her head was turned......i always knew crime would pay:pac:

Any contact since?

beano345 · 07-05-2011 9:42pm

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Any contact since?

nope shes gone off travelling ireland for a while and hopefully i'll be out of here in the next 2 months to greener pastures:D

TaraFoxglove · 07-05-2011 9:43pm

beano345 wrote: »

nope shes gone off travelling ireland for a while and hopefully i'll be out of here in the next 2 months to greener pastures:D

Where to?

beano345 · 07-05-2011 9:45pm

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Where to?

canada:D are you going to miss our arguments:pac:

TaraFoxglove · 07-05-2011 9:47pm

beano345 wrote: »

canada:D are you going to miss our arguments:pac:

I think, I think they have the interwebs in Canada these days! :pac:

Phat Cat · 07-05-2011 10:27pm

beano345 wrote: »

378 days 3 hours 10 minutes:pac: nah just over over a year.was'nt really expecting it was out in a nightclub last week got chatting to a swiss girl after trying to swipe one of her straws out of her drink just messing when her head was turned......i always knew crime would pay:pac:

Ah fair play to you, Swiss girl too so extra points

Canada is suppose to be cool, I have two mates in Toronto and they absolutely love it. Btw they have the internet over there too of course, the only difference is that you won't be on it on a Saturday night if you catch my drift :pac:

TaraFoxglove · 07-05-2011 10:45pm

Canada is very good for both sexes alike. I know a girl who lives there now who says her sex life has exploded since she went over there. Part of this she says is down to her being more uninhibited over there.

So anyway it bodes well, beano!

beks101 · 08-05-2011 8:06am

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Canada is very good for both sexes alike. I know a girl who lives there now who says her sex life has exploded since she went over there. Part of this she says is down to her being more uninhibited over there.

I can vouch for this. It's quite refreshing to be dealing with a fresh perspective on dating and approaching the opposite sex. Maybe it's a demeanor thing too because to be honest I couldn't give a fcuk what people think of me over here, small fish bigger pond and all that. Get approached at least twice as much as back home. Canadians also like to stare, be warned!

Flip side for me being that the dating scene can be exhausting and easy to get lost in translation. Strongly US-inspired, multi-dating is the norm and hard to tell where you stand. A sort of conveyor-belt dating culture I find. Guys very polite too and far more laidback and less judgmental about sex. To throw out a massive generalisation of course. I do miss that cheeky charm that Irish guys possess in spades though. Slagging is not an acceptable form of flirting here!

Phat Cat · 08-05-2011 12:48pm

beks101 wrote: »

I can vouch for this. It's quite refreshing to be dealing with a fresh perspective on dating and approaching the opposite sex. Maybe it's a demeanor thing too because to be honest I couldn't give a fcuk what people think of me over here, small fish bigger pond and all that. Get approached at least twice as much as back home. Canadians also like to stare, be warned!

That kind of contradicts itself somewhat.

I'm nearly afraid to use the term 'Irish women' anymore, but over here alot of women expect to be approached, get mad if they are not approached, yet would never even contemplate approaching a member of the opposite sex themselves. I think alot of men find this hypocritical and it's one of their main gripes about the medieval Irish dating scene, it's even causes huge resentment hence the huge amount of threads on the subject on this forum alone.

TaraFoxglove · 08-05-2011 3:56pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

That kind of contradicts itself somewhat.

Not really, she seems to be saying that everyone does the approaching there, men and women.

Women approach men more, and men aren't afraid to approach women!

Daniel S · 08-05-2011 4:00pm

beano345 wrote: »

378 days 3 hours 10 minutes:pac: nah just over over a year.was'nt really expecting it was out in a nightclub last week got chatting to a swiss girl after trying to swipe one of her straws out of her drink just messing when her head was turned......i always knew crime would pay:pac:

Swiss are the best!

beano345 · 08-05-2011 4:11pm

mtb_kng wrote: »

Swiss are the best!

they are'nt just good at making clocks thats for sure

definitely more liberal attitudes to sex.

Phat Cat wrote: »

That kind of contradicts itself somewhat.

I'm nearly afraid to use the term 'Irish women' anymore, but over here alot of women expect to be approached, get mad if they are not approached, yet would never even contemplate approaching a member of the opposite sex themselves. I think alot of men find this hypocritical and it's one of their main gripes about the medieval Irish dating scene, it's even causes huge resentment hence the huge amount of threads on the subject on this forum alone.

they'res definitely an underlying contempt between the genders here that i've yet to come across in any other country.i know my last dry spell was partly my own lack of interest in the dating culture here,even if your getting all the right signals you can still be shot down,which leads to a why bother attitude.

I do miss that cheeky charm that Irish guys possess in spades though. Slagging is not an acceptable form of flirting here!

im really going to have to tone down the slagging so:D

TaraFoxglove · 08-05-2011 4:20pm

Well, I have got more brazen about asking men out in recent months. It has got me sex at least. I'll take it!

beks101 · 08-05-2011 8:29pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

That kind of contradicts itself somewhat.

I'm nearly afraid to use the term 'Irish women' anymore, but over here alot of women expect to be approached, get mad if they are not approached, yet would never even contemplate approaching a member of the opposite sex themselves. I think alot of men find this hypocritical and it's one of their main gripes about the medieval Irish dating scene, it's even causes huge resentment hence the huge amount of threads on the subject on this forum alone.

Well to be honest in my day-to-day life the thought would not occur to me to approach a stranger...not out of complete mortification or timidity or any of those things, just because picking up a number from a hot guy as well as a pint of milk at the supermarket or while walking through a subway station or simply walking down the street...would be the last thing on my mind. Growing up in Ireland, it wasn't a social norm, I never experienced it, so that sort of opportunistic approach to dating is not something I ever got used to - I wouldn't do it and equally I wouldn't expect it to be done to me.

Whereas here it's not unusual. At least in my experience. I've been approached in all of those scenarios since I've been here, at home...not once in my 26 years on this planet. That was my point - the day-to-day approach isn't 'weird' here, it's just another way people use to meet each other.

Phat Cat · 09-05-2011 3:20pm

I know what you're saying, but the simple fact is that the reason some men don't really approach women here in 'day to day situations' is because of the very high probability that they will be rejected outright and/or labelled a weirdo or a creep by a complete stranger.

That's just one of the harsh realities of the Irish dating scene so you can't really blame some Irish fellas for not even bothering most of the time when they know that there is a massive chance that they will only be embarrassing themselves in public. That's never a nice feeling regardless of gender.

krudler · 09-05-2011 3:43pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

I know what you're saying, but the simple fact is that the reason some men don't really approach women here in 'day to day situations' is because of the very high probability that they will be rejected outright and/or labelled a weirdo or a creep by a complete stranger.

talk to a woman in an everyday situation? thats just mental, there must be drinks consumed and loud music playing. Its funny how this is such an Irish thing, I've had people flirt with me standing in a supermarket line in the States, that would never happen here.

Phat Cat · 09-05-2011 5:41pm

krudler wrote: »

talk to a woman in an everyday situation? thats just mental, there must be drinks consumed and loud music playing. Its funny how this is such an Irish thing, I've had people flirt with me standing in a supermarket line in the States, that would never happen here.

You're bang on there, it does only seem to happen in Ireland, which I find really, really odd. For example I successfully chatted up a woman in the line for cinema tickets in London and I had a beautiful girl give me her phone number while she was servring me in a clothes shop in Covent Garden. I even had a girl who lived upstairs from my flat ask me out for coffee one morning when I was collecting my mail. That would be considered normal enough in most countries but for some reason it's a huge no-go over here

I felt like a porn star when I lived in England but for some reason was living like a monk in Ireland before that, it's truly bizarre.

I think it'd safe to say, Ireland = Dry Spell Central :pac:

TaraFoxglove · 09-05-2011 5:46pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

You're bang on there, it does only seem to happen in Ireland, which I find really, really odd. For example I successfully chatted up a woman in the line for cinema tickets in London and I had a beautiful girl give me her phone number while she was servring me in a clothes shop in Covent Garden. I even had a girl who lived upstairs from my flat ask me out for coffee one morning when I was collecting my mail. That would be considered normal enough in most countries but for some reason it's a huge no-go over here

I felt like a porn star when I lived in England but for some reason was living like a monk in Ireland before that, it's truly bizarre.

I think it'd safe to say, Ireland = Dry Spell Central :pac:

I wouldn't say it's a no go, I've picked up in a shop before. In Ireland. And on a train. Just randomly asked out. That has happened a few times!

Phat Cat · 09-05-2011 5:56pm

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

I wouldn't say it's a no go, I've picked up in a shop before. In Ireland. And on a train. Just randomly asked out. That has happened a few times!

Yeah, but you're a women, so it's totally expected, but women asking out guys seems to be a major no-go. Btw have you ever asked a guy out in a random situation? My point is that most women in other countries do as much chasing as men, but that rarely happens in Ireland for some reason.

TaraFoxglove · 09-05-2011 5:59pm

Phat Cat wrote: »

Yeah, but you're a women, so it's totally expected, but women asking out guys seems to be a major no-go. Btw have you ever asked a guy out in a random situation? My point is that most women in other countries do as much chasing as men, but that rarely happens in Ireland for some reason.

Who knows why? Could be many factors. I wouldn't put the blame squarely on women for it. In every country, people are shaped by society and cultural upbringing.

beano345 · 09-05-2011 6:32pm

I think it'd safe to say, Ireland = Dry Spell Central

id have 7 mates that would agree with this 100%,ireland must have some of the most under-sexed males in the world.i got the same thing in oz whilst in shops and that,half the time i didnt even know the other person was coming onto me because i was'nt used to it.i still bury my head under the pillow and tangle myself up in the blankets at night thinking of the chances i passed up because i was clueless coming from ireland were these things never happen.

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