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PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

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  • #1862
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    Cant wait to quote all these replys come May :P

    It's good to have something to play for, even if it isn't your own teams position.


  • #1863
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    I dunno about ye, but I'm only still posting here to get to 2000 posts on a match thread.:pac:

    Has it been done before?


  • #1864
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    What are next weeks lotto numbers there actually?

    Oh and while your at it, can you tell me when Liverpool will win their first Premiership trophy?:rolleyes:

    Haven't an iota. Though that's the same as Utd fans claiming what a deserved red card for Carragher could have led to.


  • #1865
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    parker kent wrote: »
    He wouldn't have got a red card for the same offence. He may have got a red card for some other offence, who knows? But the events would not have followed the same pattern. Think about it, there would likely have been a substitution. Then Liverpool players would have had to switch around to suit whatever new formation they had. The free kick would have played out differently as Carragher would not have been there. The atmosphere in the stadium would have been different. Everything would be different so the same things literally could not happen. For play to lead to the Rafael tackle, the same players would have had to be in the same positions and do the same things. With a change in formation and personnel, that could not happen. Ergo, the Rafael tackle we are talking about would not have happened. Maybe a different one would have happened, but we don't know.

    The difference between me saying that and the post I replied to is that I am saying I don't know what would have happened, whereas he was 100% sure of what would happen. I see that as a big difference. I still think it is likely Liverpool would have seen the game out and won, but it would have been a different game.

    If you want to think like that go re watch the cup game and if Webb had of done his job then Gerrard would not have been sent off. After all Rafael (notice a trend) jumped in two footed and got away with it just before Gerrard did

    ******



  • #1866
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    citytillidie wrote: »
    If you want to think like that go re watch the cup game and if Webb had of done his job then Gerrard would not have been sent off. After all Rafael (notice a trend) jumped in two footed and got away with it just before Gerrard did

    If you are saying Gerrard's wasn't a red card then you are saying that Rafael's wasn't a red either?


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  • #1867
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    parker kent wrote: »
    Good man your exact knowledge of what may happen in hypothetical situations astounds.

    Nothing hypothetical about it, my friend! We were beating you today!! It was just happening.

    Now move on, take your spanking and try not let Arsenal overtake you's!

    (Hope they do though!! :p)


  • #1868
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    If you are saying Gerrard's wasn't a red card then you are saying that Rafael's wasn't a red either?

    No going by his logic the game would have stopped Rafael sent off therefore Gerrard tackle would never have happened

    ******



  • #1869
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    citytillidie wrote: »
    No going by his logic the game would have stopped Rafael sent off therefore Gerrard tackle would never have happened

    The Gerrard tackle you referred to happend in a different game, in the FA cup:confused:


  • #1870
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    flahavaj wrote: »
    The difference is Gerrard hasn't a history of embarrassing diving and play acting though.

    Oh wait.....
    flahavaj wrote: »
    Its all cheating tbh.

    There is no doubting he was badly injured today and in a lot of pain. I also think there's no hope he would've stayed off the pitch unless he was legit injured, contrary to what some are trying to suggest. Its not as simple as just stapling up the cut and running it off, there would be a huge amount of swelling etc.

    Man you can't equate the play acting and crying of the likes of Nani to the diving of Gerrard and Rooney. Nani's actions are miles worse because they aren't just cheating, they are also shamefully embarrassing. Far more so than the cheating.

    And you are assuming that he was badly injured. All I've seen is a bit of blood on TV and a grainy easily faked close up on the internet.

    Are you denying that some players are tough and some players are just cowards and wimps? We don't know how bad his injury really was, but theatrics in front of the ref and his crying on the pitch is just more evidence of his wussynss. If there's anybody on the United team who I would suspect wouldn't be up for soldiering on after a bit of a knock, it's Nani.

    Edit:
    parker kent wrote: »
    Yes, if the doctor says to stay off, players stay off. If he legitimately had a large gash, then you can't play football with an open wound these days. There are safety and health reasons as well as the possible infections you can get. If the medical advice is to stay off, then they stay off.

    Man that's just not true. Players play on all the time. Nani's injury could well have been so bad that he wouldn't have been able to play no matter how tough he was, but to say that you can't play on with an open wound full stop is very wrong.


  • #1871
    newballsplease
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    whats it like winning a premierleague game?
    same question again but replace game with title?


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  • #1872
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    flahavaj wrote: »
    You could say the same about Liverpool fans being more interested in getting embroiled defending Carra and criticising Rafael than enjoying their win. Depends on your perspective I guess.

    No Liverpool fan is defending Carra. Should have been sent off. Without doubt. I did laugh when Nani cried though! That was brilliant!!

    That's right Nani. Cry at Anfield in front of Liverpool fans!! See the bloke who scratched you? He limped off against Blackburn with a broken leg!!!!!

    The stretcher was brilliant!! Poor Nani!!


  • #1873
    Mayo Exile
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Mayo Exile


    Great performance by Liverpool today. Kuyt: 3 goals + covered every blade of grass again (he must have a name for each one by now!). Would personally give Suarez MOTM. Great to watch.


  • #1874
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    The Gerrard tackle you referred to happend in a different game, in the FA cup:confused:

    Yea reread what i posted

    ******



  • #1875
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Man you can't equate the play acting and crying of the likes of Nani to the diving of Gerrard and Rooney. Nani's actions are miles worse because they aren't just cheating, they are also shamefully embarrassing. Far more so than the cheating.

    Its all cheating. Gerrard's starfish antics and simultaneous condemnation of diving is just as embarrassing as anything Nani did today. They're all reprehensible acts that need to be stamped out of the game.
    And you are assuming that he was badly injured. All I've seen is a bit of blood on TV and a grainy easily faked close up on the internet.

    I'm not assuming he's badly injured, I'm saying nobody really knows how badly injured he is, all we have to go on are some sh*tty pictures no one can agree on. I genuinely don't think he'd have come off unless he wasn't able to continue. There are all kinds of possibilities, such as hairline fractures, a deep would needing to be thoroughly leaned and dressed to avoid infection, the severe swelking that comes from such an injury. Are these not at the very least a possibility?
    Are you denying that some players are tough and some players are just cowards and wimps? We don't know how bad his injury really was, but theatrics in front of the ref and his crying on the pitch is just more evidence of his wussynss. If there's anybody on the United team who I would suspect wouldn't be up for soldiering on after a bit of a knock, it's Nani.

    I'm not denying anything of the sort. I do think that Nani is made of sterner stuff than his play acting would suggest however. He's from a fairly tough background and seems to have a genuine desire to win and succeed about him. I remember him running himslef into the ground vs Munich last season and puking his ring up on the touchline and i was impressed with his drive and determination. There's a difference between playacting and chickening out of a game as well btw.

    You are prepared to believe he wimped out, whereas I'm prepared to believe he was legit injured. We're both going off the same scanty evidence. We may never know for sure either way. There's little more to say about it after that really.


  • #1876
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    citytillidie wrote: »
    Yea reread what i posted

    Yeah, then you didn't answer my question.

    If you thought Gerrard's tackle in the FA cup wasn't a sending off, then do you think Rafael's tackle wasn't a sending off either?


  • #1877
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    monkey9 wrote: »
    No Liverpool fan is defending Carra. Should have been sent off. Without doubt. I did laugh when Nani cried though! That was brilliant!!

    That's right Nani. Cry at Anfield in front of Liverpool fans!! See the bloke who scratched you? He limped off against Blackburn with a broken leg!!!!!

    The stretcher was brilliant!! Poor Nani!!

    My point was that Liverpool fans are equally guilty of getting embroiled in silly arguments as United fans, which was the point I was earlier responding to.

    I've also explained this already. Keep up.


  • #1878
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    Yeah, then you didn't answer my question.

    If you thought Gerrard's tackle in the FA cup wasn't a sending off, then do you think Rafael's tackle wasn't a sending off either?

    Fair point.

    I was thinking that earlier but didn't want to bring Webb into the "discussion".

    If Gerrard was a red, so was Rafael.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1879
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »
    Relax Parker, let them have their day.

    Some of them are just intent on being smug and insulting, which is fairly embarresing given the positions of the two sides in the table, not to mention the points gap and being in the champions league.

    Not all are like this, K-9 for example. Plenty of others.

    Once again, superb!!! Loving it!! :pac:

    It's our cup final. :pac: I always love that arguement from the Utd fans.:pac: Ferguson always knows this is the big one, yet Utd fans seem to think he is talking bollix!! They should probably respect their manager more. We really seem to be getting under their skin!!

    This is our cup final lads, yet the Utd players were not up for it at all. The Utd players are clearly not there for the trophies, they're just there for the money.

    So Man Utd are like Man City? And considering that City have considerably more money than Utd......wow, Utd are ****ed!!

    I've been educated so much in this thread!!

    By the way, embarrassing is spelt embarrassing!


  • #1880
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    monkey9 wrote: »
    Once again, superb!!! Loving it!! :pac:

    It's our cup final. :pac: I always love that arguement from the Utd fans.:pac: Ferguson always knows this is the big one, yet Utd fans seem to think he is talking bollix!! They should probably respect their manager more. We really seem to be getting under their skin!!

    This is our cup final lads, yet the Utd players were not up for it at all. The Utd players are clearly not there for the trophies, they're just there for the money.

    So Man Utd are like Man City? And considering that City have considerably more money than Utd......wow, Utd are ****ed!!

    I've been educated so much in this thread!!

    By the way, embarrassing is spelt embarrassing!

    Argument is spelt argument.

    The rest is over-excited rubbish btw. Take a deep breath.


  • #1881
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    monkey9 wrote: »
    Once again, superb!!! Loving it!! :pac:

    It's our cup final. :pac: I always love that arguement from the Utd fans.:pac: Ferguson always knows this is the big one, yet Utd fans seem to think he is talking bollix!! They should probably respect their manager more. We really seem to be getting under their skin!!

    This is our cup final lads, yet the Utd players were not up for it at all. The Utd players are clearly not there for the trophies, they're just there for the money.

    So Man Utd are like Man City? And considering that City have considerably more money than Utd......wow, Utd are ****ed!!

    I've been educated so much in this thread!!

    By the way, embarrassing is spelt embarrassing!

    Tbh, it's a compliment to Liverpool fans.

    We used the same line during the 80's when we lost so they just copied it.

    They've been waiting long enough to catch up.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #1882
    missingtime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    I <3 this thread.

    Is so silly its fantastic.


  • #1883
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Its all cheating. Gerrard's starfish antics and simultaneous condemnation of diving is just as embarrassing as anything Nani did today.

    That's bollocks of the highest order imo. We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

    flahavaj wrote: »
    I'm not assuming he's badly injured, I'm saying nobody really knows how badly injured he is, all we have to go on are some sh*tty pictures no one can agree on. I genuinely don't think he'd have come off unless he wasn't able to continue. There are all kinds of possibilities, such as hairline fractures, a deep would needing to be thoroughly leaned and dressed to avoid infection, the severe swelking that comes from such an injury. Are these not at the very least a possibility?

    Yep it's possible that it was really bad and impossible to play on on or it's possible that he could have played on.

    Either way he still threw himself down over dramatically and balled his eyes out in front of hundreds of thousands of people. Yet more evidence that he's a wimp imo.
    flahavaj wrote: »
    I'm not denying anything of the sort. I do think that Nani is made of sterner stuff than his play acting would suggest however. He's from a fairly tough background and seems to have a genuine desire to win and succeed about him. I remember him running himslef into the ground vs Munich last season and puking his ring up on the touchline and i was impressed with his drive and determination. There's a difference between playacting and chickening out of a game as well btw.

    You are prepared to believe he wimped out, whereas I'm prepared to believe he was legit injured. We're both going off the same scanty evidence. We may never know for sure either way. There's little more to say about it after that really.

    I've known plenty of wimps who were from tough areas and backgrounds. Being from a tough area doesn't make you tough.

    I'm not basing my suspicion that he wussed out on the pictures of the injury. I'm basing it on his general attitude and personality.

    BTW I do give him credit for running himself into the ground a few times. Fair play to him for that. And, like yourself (I think it was you that said it), I too thought he had cut the shíte-hawking out of his game recently and so was extra disappointed today.


  • #1884
    CR 7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭CR 7


    Right, Mr. S4L, the challenge has been set. Ireland v France match thread. 2183 replies.

    I can only presume that's the longest, and I'm too lazy to do more than one search.


  • #1885
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    missingtime wrote: »
    I <3 this thread.

    Is so silly its fantastic.

    Who do you think, Flah or Pro.F?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1886
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    parker kent wrote: »
    He wouldn't have got a red card for the same offence. He may have got a red card for some other offence, who knows? But the events would not have followed the same pattern. Think about it, there would likely have been a substitution. Then Liverpool players would have had to switch around to suit whatever new formation they had. The free kick would have played out differently as Carragher would not have been there. The atmosphere in the stadium would have been different. Everything would be different so the same things literally could not happen. For play to lead to the Rafael tackle, the same players would have had to be in the same positions and do the same things. With a change in formation and personnel, that could not happen. Ergo, the Rafael tackle we are talking about would not have happened. Maybe a different one would have happened, but we don't know.

    The difference between me saying that and the post I replied to is that I am saying I don't know what would have happened, whereas he was 100% sure of what would happen. I see that as a big difference. I still think it is likely Liverpool would have seen the game out and won, but it would have been a different game.

    Look, you's took a spanking!! Pull your pants back up and move on!!


  • #1887
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    monkey9 wrote: »
    Once again, superb!!! Loving it!! :pac:

    It's our cup final. :pac: I always love that arguement from the Utd fans.:pac: Ferguson always knows this is the big one, yet Utd fans seem to think he is talking bollix!! They should probably respect their manager more. We really seem to be getting under their skin!!

    This is our cup final lads, yet the Utd players were not up for it at all. The Utd players are clearly not there for the trophies, they're just there for the money.

    So Man Utd are like Man City? And considering that City have considerably more money than Utd......wow, Utd are ****ed!!

    I've been educated so much in this thread!!

    By the way, embarrassing is spelt embarrassing!

    lol:pac:

    One of the funnier posts I've read today.

    Brilliant.


  • #1888
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Park Ji Sung wrote: »
    Right, Mr. S4L, the challenge has been set. Ireland v France match thread. 2183 replies.

    I can only presume that's the longest, and I'm too lazy to do more than one search.

    Ohh, now there's an interesting one to look through.

    But my reading of that thread is going to detract from my contribution here, damn you anyway Park, damn you:mad::D


  • #1889
    CR 7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭CR 7


    monkey9 wrote: »
    Once again, superb!!! Loving it!! :pac:

    It's our cup final. :pac: I always love that arguement from the Utd fans.:pac: Ferguson always knows this is the big one, yet Utd fans seem to think he is talking bollix!! They should probably respect their manager more. We really seem to be getting under their skin!!

    This is our cup final lads, yet the Utd players were not up for it at all. The Utd players are clearly not there for the trophies, they're just there for the money.

    So Man Utd are like Man City? And considering that City have considerably more money than Utd......wow, Utd are ****ed!!

    I've been educated so much in this thread!!

    By the way, embarrassing is spelt embarrassing!

    Well, here's proof ye dusted off this old relic for the team leaving the stadium:
    image-29-for-gallery-liverpool-fc-vs-ac-milan-champions-league-final-2005-285715880.jpg
    :pac: That should squeeze out another page or two.


  • #1890
    missingtime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    K-9 wrote: »
    Who do you think, Flah or Pro.F?

    You know, I couldnt single out one particular poster; both sides have played a blinder - its a classic soccer forum thread.

    Confusion, Anger, Gifs, Shopped Pictures, Laughter, Tears, Blood and people pointing out misspellings.

    Brilliant all round.


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  • #1891
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Park Ji Sung wrote: »
    Well, here's proof ye dusted off this old relic for the team leaving the stadium:
    [IMG][/img]http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolecho/nov2009/6/3/image-29-for-gallery-liverpool-fc-vs-ac-milan-champions-league-final-2005-285715880.jpg
    :pac: That should squeeze out another page or two.

    Probably the best thing the much maligned Mr. Cole ever did at Liverpool was give the 5 finger salute to mocking United fans today.

    You picked the wrong trophy to mock at. Try again!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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