PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

tommyhaas · 06-03-2011 11:06PM

Mister men wrote: »

Really how embarrassing for United as a football club. Nobody talking to the media at all today. Fairly pathetic tbh.

Reckon that could be more down to Fergie making a point about getting charged by the FA for what he said the other night rather then for how Utd were beaten today

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 11:07PM

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Who's defending Carragher? Horrible tackle and should have been a red.

Still, mildly amusing watching a grown man crying because of a little gash.

I see just as many Liverpool fans engaged in petty arguing as I see United fans, which was the point the original poster referred to.

Many's a bit of gash has brought grown men to tears over the years I'd say.:pac:

donfers · 06-03-2011 11:07PM

parker kent wrote: »

Good man your exact knowledge of what may happen in hypothetical situations astounds.

yet you excuse rafaels two-footed lunge on the hypothetical basis that he wouldn't have done it if carra hadn't been sent off

which is it? are we allowed to hypothesize or not? yes if it suits my argument and no if it doesn't - is it?

Will I Amnt · 06-03-2011 11:07PM

bamboozling wrote: »

Well played United fans. Mask the ineptness of your teams perforance by bleating on about Nani's 'injury' and Carragher should get sent off and Raphael and what not, all the time stifling talk about how poor United were today.

One gets a sense of deja vu with the whole 'But David Luiz should have been sent off' debacle of last Tuesday night.

Ye're a clever and well organised bunch I'll give ye that. :rolleyes:

That's just the way these threads work,it was berbatovs dive and gerrards red card last time,works both ways,not just united fans

stumpypeeps · 06-03-2011 11:08PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I see just as many Liverpool fans engaged in petty arguing as I see United fans, which was the point the original poster referred to.

Many's a bit of gash has brought grown men to tears over the years I'd say.:pac:

Lol. :pac:

nullzero · 06-03-2011 11:10PM

I think we can all safely say that if a United player had cut open Steven Gerrard's shin there'd be a Liverpool fan or two on this very thread complaining about it right now.

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 11:10PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Reckon that could be more down to Fergie making a point about getting charged by the FA for what he said the other night rather then for how Utd were beaten today

A big part of it would probably be the club not wanting to run the risk of anything else controversial being said afeter what was a very heated and controversial game. We don't need anything else to happen within an FA heaqring already hanging over Fergie. A wise decision really in the circumstances.

parker kent · 06-03-2011 11:11PM

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Relax Parker, let them have their day.

Some of them are just intent on being smug and insulting, which is fairly embarresing given the positions of the two sides in the table, not to mention the points gap and being in the champions league.

I am actually relaxed, it is the Liverpool fans trying to say United fans are losing the plot that are being oddly hysterical. United deserved to lose, but I still would have liked to see them play against 10 men. The spell of possession at the start of the second half would have been interesting against 10 men, would also have been interesting to see how Kenny rejigged the line up.

donfers wrote: »

yet you excuse rafaels two-footed lunge on the hypothetical basis that he wouldn't have done it if carra hadn't been sent off

which is it? are we allowed to hypothesize or not? yes if it suits my argument and no if it doesn't - is it?

Where did I excuse the tackle? I am talking about his assertion that Liverpool would have won even if Carragher was sent off, which none of us actually know.

This is what I said when I was talking about the the incidents before half time.

parker kent wrote: »

In fairness, it could have been a leg breaker. It wasn't, but tackles like that have broken legs before. It was wild, rash and should have been a red card. That doesn't excuse Rafael as his should have been a red card too. But it would never had happened if Carragher had been sent off. I also think Maxi could have been sent off by many refs for his thigh high connection with Rafael. All 3 were pretty reckless and brainless.

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 11:12PM

nullzero wrote: »

I think we can all safely say that if a United player had cut open Steven Gerrard's shin there'd be a Liverpool fan or two on this very thread complaining about it right now.

The difference is Gerrard hasn't a history of embarrassing diving and play acting though.

Oh wait.....

michael999999 · 06-03-2011 11:13PM

SlickRic wrote: »

the crying was comical, but it wasn't a 'little gash'.

he had to come off, and rumour has it he might be out a while.

So your manager has come out after the game and said nani is out for a while or is it just a romour?

Where is your source of that rumour?

stumpypeeps · 06-03-2011 11:14PM

SlickRic wrote: »

the crying was comical, but it wasn't a 'little gash'.

he had to come off, and rumour has it he might be out a while.

Well it was hardly a big gash. Am I the only one who thinks had another player received that cut, they'd just staple it up and carry on? This is not Nani bashing just surprised to see a player leave because of a cut.

Chucky the tree · 06-03-2011 11:15PM

Fergie/United came out yesterday and said they wouldn't be talking to the press after todays game no matter what happened.

adox · 06-03-2011 11:15PM

michael999999 wrote: »

So your manager has come out after the game and said nani is out for a while or is it just a romour?

Where is your source of that rumour?

Dalglish commented on Nani?

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 11:16PM

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Well it was hardly a big gash. Am I the only one who thinks had another player received that cut, they'd just staple it up and carry on? This is not Nani bashing just surprised to see a player leave because of a cut.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dr Nick Riviera here has all the answers.

parker kent · 06-03-2011 11:17PM

michael999999 wrote: »

So your manager has come out after the game and said nani is out for a while or is it just a romour?

Where is your source of that rumour?

Ha Slick has been outed. He is no longer in his closet covered in Wayne Rooney stickers. Come out Slick, Fergie loves you :pac:

Melion · 06-03-2011 11:18PM

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Well it was hardly a big gash. Am I the only one who thinks had another player received that cut, they'd just staple it up and carry on? This is not Nani bashing just surprised to see a player leave because of a cut.

We might be underestimating how serious it is but i cant imagine that if it was the other way around and Nani had tackled Carra that Carra would have been taken off on a stretcher and not come back out for the second half.

tommyhaas · 06-03-2011 11:18PM

flahavaj wrote: »

The difference is Gerrard hasn't a history of embarrassing diving and play acting though.

Oh wait.....

Gerrard has a history of diving yea, as does Rooney and infact examples can be found of most attacking players of recent times diving or going down far too easily.

There's a difference though between this and sniper victim act pulled by players like Nani, Robben, and most obviously Rivaldo, where the player goes down holding his face as if he has met Duncan Ferguson when infact little or no contact has been made, far worse IMO

stumpypeeps · 06-03-2011 11:19PM

flahavaj wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dr Nick Riviera here has all the answers.

It was only a little nick, barely a mark, practically a scratch.

adox · 06-03-2011 11:19PM

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Well it was hardly a big gash. Am I the only one who thinks had another player received that cut, they'd just staple it up and carry on? This is not Nani bashing just surprised to see a player leave because of a cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

Bodhisopha · 06-03-2011 11:19PM

Poor Nani. I think he whipped off the shinpad, saw the gash, was initially outraged so jumped up to show the ref and once that bit of business was out of the way he went into shock and sort of fainted, halfheartedly.

I do hope he's okay.

K-9 · 06-03-2011 11:20PM

parker kent wrote: »

Good man your exact knowledge of what may happen in hypothetical situations astounds.

But you realise arguing Rafael wouldn't have got a red is hypothetical too?

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Relax Parker, let them have their day.

Some of them are just intent on being smug and insulting, which is fairly embarresing given the positions of the two sides in the table, not to mention the points gap and being in the champions league.

Not all are like this, K-9 for example. Plenty of others.

Ah shucks.

I've been around here long enough to not take the match threads too seriously, mostly a bit of craic. I have seen a pool supporter or 2 acting like a dick on United game threads and pointed it out, I'm a star me!

flahavaj wrote: »

I see just as many Liverpool fans engaged in petty arguing as I see United fans, which was the point the original poster referred to.

Many's a bit of gash has brought grown men to tears over the years I'd say.:pac:

+1.

The more I read these threads, I see every club has their "unbiased" fans! I lol at the bitter posts pointing out other clubs bitterness!

It'll never change and sure it would be boring if it did.

parker kent · 06-03-2011 11:21PM

Melion wrote: »

We might be underestimating how serious it is but i cant imagine that if it was the other way around and Nani had tackled Carra that Carra would have been taken off on a stretcher and not come back out for the second half.

These days I'd say if the medical staff say it is dangerous to play, any player would be subbed. It was a wide enough gash, I doubt that gash could be easily sown or stapled up, not enough to safely withstand a football game.

Bodhisopha · 06-03-2011 11:22PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Gerrard has a history of diving yea, as does Rooney and infact examples can be found of most attacking players of recent times diving or going down far too easily.

There's a difference though between this and sniper victim act pulled by players like Nani, Robben, and most obviously Rivaldo, where the player goes down holding his face as if he has met Duncan Ferguson when infact little or no contact has been made, far worse IMO

The last time i saw Gerrard dive the ref didn't give a penalty so Gerrard jumped up and waved as if to signal it wasn't a penalty, embarrassed by his own dive no doubt. The commentators said, "hats off to Gerrard".

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 11:24PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Gerrard has a history of diving yea, as does Rooney and infact examples can be found of most attacking players of recent times diving or going down far too easily.

There's a difference though between this and sniper victim act pulled by players like Nani, Robben, and most obviously Rivaldo, where the player goes down holding his face as if he has met Duncan Ferguson when infact little or no contact has been made, far worse IMO

Its all cheating tbh.

There is no doubting he was badly injured today and in a lot of pain. I also think there's no hope he would've stayed off the pitch unless he was legit injured, contrary to what some are trying to suggest. Its not as simple as just stapling up the cut and running it off, there would be a huge amount of swelling etc.

argosy2006 · 06-03-2011 11:25PM

I thought it was funny how big bird ran all the way from the goal to get involved then got a yellow for his trouble,

Ebbs · 06-03-2011 11:25PM

stumpypeeps wrote: »

It was only a little nick, barely a mark, practically a scratch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

stumpypeeps · 06-03-2011 11:25PM

parker kent wrote: »

These days I'd say if the medical staff say it is dangerous to play, any player would be subbed. It was a wide enough gash, I doubt that gash could be easily sown or stapled up, not enough to safely withstand a football game.

Yeah probably so. I'd imagine Nani was in an unfit psychological state to continue anyway.

Melion · 06-03-2011 11:26PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Its all cheating tbh.

There is no doubting he was badly injured today and in a lot of pain. I also think there's no hope he would've stayed off the pitch unless he was legit injured, contrary to what some are trying to suggest. Its not as simple as just stapling up the cut and running it off, there would be a huge amount of swelling etc.

Do you think Rooney or Vidic would have stayed off?
Keane? Bruce? Pallister? Ince?

flahavaj · 06-03-2011 11:27PM

argosy2006 wrote: »

I thought it was funny how big bird ran all the way from the goal to get involved then got a yellow for his trouble,

I found it funny how Reina ran in after the Nani incident to push all the Liverpool players away from his future team mate. Great team player, he'll do well for us I think.;)

argosy2006 · 06-03-2011 11:28PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I found it funny how Reina ran in after the Nani incident to push all the Liverpool players away from his future team mate. Great team player, he'll do well for us I think.;)

HAHA :P

PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

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