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CHEMTRAILS

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    So then what's particularly bad about weather modification?

    This isn’t really the thread I don’t think to go into this in any real detail I’m going to start a separate thread about weather manipulation at some stage but I need to find out some things read up some more about it before I do. I’ll touch on your question though.

    I think there are many possible things “bad” about weather manipulation both physical and ethical. Leaving the majority of the potential science discussed in the Airforce 2025 research paper out of it, that stuff is on another level its off the wall in my opinion, the most familiar and attempted weather manipulation we know off is cloud seeding and nobody knows for sure the short/long term effects that might have on people or the environment for example does inducing rain in one area result in a drought in another area?. Cloud seeding is an experiment just like anyone else who is playing God with the weather. They are experimenting.

    The people undertaking research/testing/experimenting of this nature are scientists. Scientists have an obligation to conduct their research in an ethical way which includes obtaining the consent of people affected. Weather affects everyone. If for example the military is undertaking behind the scenes testing/experimenting in weather modification then they are not adhering to or the military scientists aren’t adhering to their ethical obligations. Also, society has an ethical/legal obligation to use technology wisely to avoid long term adverse effects on the environment. We just don’t know what long term affects of such testing/methods might have on the environment or people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Genius147


    HI all,I found something interesting in realation to chemtrails. Type in Weather Modification Inc. Or this might work for you..... http://www.weathermodification.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Genius147 wrote: »
    HI all,I found something interesting in realation to chemtrails. Type in Weather Modification Inc. Or this might work for you..... http://www.weathermodification.com/

    About Us

    Now, more than ever, the worldwide need for solutions to atmospheric necessities such as water resource management and environmental quality monitoring, is critical. With nearly a half-century of successful programs, our experience speaks for itself.
    Let us help you better manage your atmospheric and water resources

    So they admit they have nearly half a century of successful programs, it's no big secret really anymore.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_control#Cloud_seeding_for_rain

    300px-Cloud_Seeding.svg.png

    Project Stormfury
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    US and Canada agreement
    In 1975, the US and Canada entered into an agreement under the auspices of the United Nations for the exchange of information on weather modification activity

    U.N. urged to freeze climate geo-engineering projects
    ?m=02&d=20101021&t=2&i=230570705&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2010-10-21T075459Z_01_BTRE69K0M0300_RTROPTP_0_GLOBALWARMING-RAINMAKING

    (Reuters) - The United Nations should impose a moratorium on "geo-engineering" projects such as artificial volcanoes and vast cloud-seeding schemes to fight climate change, green groups say, fearing they could harm nature and mankind.
    Some countries regard geo-engineering projects costing billions of dollars as a way to control climate change by cutting the amount of sunlight hitting the earth or soaking up excess greenhouse gas emissions, particularly carbon dioxide.
    "It's absolutely inappropriate for a handful of governments in industrialized countries to make a decision to try geo-engineering without the approval of all the world's support," Pat Mooney, from Canada-headquartered advocacy organization ETC Group, told Reuters on the sidelines of the October 18-29 meeting.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/10/21/us-geoengineering-idUSTRE69K18320101021


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    Outkast star Big Boi causes a stir during the Grammy's by tweeting about chemtrails.

    http://www.thefader.com/2011/02/14/grammys-trash-talk-b-o-b-with-janelle-monae-and-bruno-mars-overshadowed-by-big-boi-talking-about-chemtrails/

    http://twitter.com/#!/BigBoi/status/37006603295272960
    Google #chemtrails , then look up in the sky where ever you at, I've been around the globe many times, this **** is REAL!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    This is the aircraft suggested by most other CT sites to be causing these trails

    http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/mkts.html

    MARKETS:

    • Firefighting
    • Oil Spill Containment
    • Weather Modification
    • Biochemical Decontamination

    The Evergreen Supertanker is not just limited to fighting fire. It will be a true utilitarian aircraft with the capability to configure to different applications on short notice. This multimission aircraft can support sensitive security and environmental missions. The aircraft’s exceptional drop capabilities, loiter time and size make it an ideal tool to perform challenging homeland security missions, able to neutralize chemical attacks on military installments or major population centers, and help control large, environmentally disastrous oil spills.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    We know that:

    a) Weather modification is possible and
    b) Weather modification happens.

    So that's really not a conspiracy theory, is it? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    We know that:

    a) Weather modification is possible and
    b) Weather modification happens.

    So that's really not a conspiracy theory, is it? :confused:

    Sorry for confusing you chief.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    Some really crazy chemtrails here. 3 min in.

    Anyone who thinks this is regular contrail is an idiot. (present company excluded of course)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    joebucks wrote: »
    Sorry for confusing you chief.
    Not at all. So do you have evidence of a conspiracy at all, or are you posting stuff that is widely acknowledged and in the public domain for a specific reason?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Mr Plough wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks this is regular contrail is an idiot. (present company excluded of course)
    You've taken some legal advice? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Mr Plough wrote: »
    Some really crazy chemtrails here. 3 min in.

    Anyone who thinks this is regular contrail is an idiot.
    I suppose nobody has yet bothered to actually check if there are any odd chemicals in those contrails?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    Not at all. So do you have evidence of a conspiracy at all, or are you posting stuff that is widely acknowledged and in the public domain for a specific reason?

    Specific reason- I thought that people who are interested in persistent contrails may have an interest in geoengineering as it has been suggested that the persistent contrails seen around the world may be due to experimentation in weather modification.

    I did not post the articles above as evidence of a conspiracy. I hope you are ok with that. If not please take it to PM or let a mod deal with it.

    All the best,
    JB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    joebucks wrote: »
    Specific reason- I thought that people who are interested in persistent contrails may have an interest in geoengineering as it has been suggested that the persistent contrails seen around the world may be due to experimentation in weather modification.
    Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that that stuff is possible, the real question is 'is anybody trying it globally?'
    joebucks wrote: »
    I did not post the articles above as evidence of a conspiracy. I hope you are ok with that. If not please take it to PM or let a mod deal with it.

    All the best,
    JB
    Fair enough, it's just that this is the CT board and usually things are posted with a CT slant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    the real question is 'is anybody trying it globally?'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that that stuff is possible, the real question is 'is anybody trying it globally?'

    Fair enough, it's just that this is the CT board and usually things are posted with a CT slant.


    LOL.

    Think I heard a penny drop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,715 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    From the charter:
    This isn't a competition. If you're here to win arguments, you're probably in the wrong place. If you're here to mock or antagonize others for what they believe, you're definitely in the wrong place.

    Stop with the snide remarks.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mr Plough wrote: »
    Some really crazy chemtrails here. 3 min in.

    Anyone who thinks this is regular contrail is an idiot. (present company excluded of course)

    Yes you're right, because they are clouds.

    So how come none of those pictures look anything like what we are told chemtrails look like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes you're right, because they are clouds.

    So how come none of those pictures look anything like what we are told chemtrails look like?

    Clouds???? lol really :confused:


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    caseyann wrote: »
    Clouds???? lol really :confused:

    No you're right, a vast secret global conspiracy make so much more sense...

    Notice how you didn't actually answer the question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,610 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    caseyann wrote: »
    Clouds???? lol really :confused:

    The one spanning across the ocean is a Morning Glory cloud, as is the final one in the video which is shot from a plane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The one spanning across the ocean is a Morning Glory cloud, as is the final one in the video which is shot from a plane.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Glory_cloud


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 thescientist


    US Reported In “Panic” After Chemtrail Planes Forced Down In India, Nigeria


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 thescientist


    Russian Military Analysts are reporting in the Kremlin today that US Military Forces are “panicked” over the forced landings ordered by Indian and Nigerian Air Forces of two Ukrainian AN-124 aircraft [photo top left] operated by the United States Air Force and based at their gigantic, but secretive, Diego Garcia air base located in the Indian Ocean.
    According to these reports, China’s People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) notified both India and Nigerian intelligence officials about the presence of these US operated Ukrainian aircraft over their growing concerns of the United States spreading of “biological agents” throughout our Earth’s atmosphere, and which some Chinese officials are warning is an American-European attempt to conduct mass genocide via the spread of the H1N1 swine flu virus which has put the entire Global population at risk.
    SEE LINK FOR FULL ARTICLE



    www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/humans/chemtrails/news.php?q=1246309936


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    More nonsense, why would the EU-US try and commit mass genocide in the first place, and if they were why ,use swine flu, which has a death rate similar to normal flu. Aswell as that, they'd be putting themselves and their own populations at risk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    More nonsense, why would the EU-US try and commit mass genocide in the first place, and if they were why ,use swine flu, which has a death rate similar to normal flu. Aswell as that, they'd be putting themselves and their own populations at risk
    Yup - why destroy the world economy? If something happens to China, the US is goosed because China holds so much US currency and T-Bills it could crash the dollar and wipe out the American economy. These CTs make no sense unless you think that the US is determined to destroy civilisation for some reason. They could have done it during the Cold War when they had very good reason to, but didn't. Why would they do it now?

    (Answer: they aren't trying to - the theory is wrong)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Talk E


    Helicopters now spraying chemtrails. Dont tell me their contrails. :)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Talk E wrote: »
    Helicopters now spraying chemtrails. Dont tell me their contrails. :)
    Wouldn't the blades of a helicopter be likely to condense water out of the air in exactly the same way that the wings of planes do (they are small, moving wings after all), given the right atmospheric conditions?

    Edit: indeed they do, as described in 'Principles of Helicopter Aerodynamics' by J Gordon Leishman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Talk E


    Wouldn't the blades of a helicopter be likely to condense water out of the air in exactly the same way that the wings of planes do (they are small, moving wings after all), given the right atmospheric conditions?

    Edit: indeed they do, as described in 'Principles of Helicopter Aerodynamics' by J Gordon Leishman


    Fair enough.

    Maybe you can explain what the middle trail is in this video @ 2:20


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,595 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    erm, the auxiliary power unit?


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