CHEMTRAILS

Di0genes

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I'm not saying contrails are chemtrails but for arguments sake let's say they are chemtrals I would assume that there is an antidote. Also, it could be considered a sacrifice for the greater good by brainwashed military types.

Have you met any "military types" who think that way, honestly BB?

Monty Burnz

I'd still love to hear the details of the ground operations that would be the underwater part of the iceberg here - massive compared to the visible element (the planes).

Talk E

Di0genes wrote: »

Have you met any "military types" who think that way, honestly BB?

Military types that would be willing to kill ? I should think most are that way.

constance tench

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Monty Burnz

Ouch. Scary stuff.

The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.



In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

To be fair, it seems they didn't know they were doing harm - but you'd think they'd have been damned certain. On the other hand, this could be folks looking for someone to blame for brith defects that exist in a random cluster or were caused by something else.

RoboClam

On the other hand, this could be folks looking for someone to blame for brith defects that exist in a random cluster or were caused by something else.

This quote reminded me of this:

CiaranMT

RoboClam wrote: »

This quote reminded me of this:

Has to be the jackhammers, *puff* I mean, what else could it be? *puff*

Di0genes

Talk E wrote: »

Military types that would be willing to kill ? I should think most are that way.

Kill their friends and family? Kill their countrymen?

uprising2

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I'm not saying contrails are chemtrails but for arguments sake let's say they are chemtrals I would assume that there is an antidote. Also, it could be considered a sacrifice for the greater good by brainwashed military types.

Di0genes wrote: »

Have you met any "military types" who think that way, honestly BB?

constance tench wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Constance has answered your question here Di0genes, read his link:

Millions were in germ war tests

Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials
The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.
A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.
CLICK ON CONSTANCE TENCH'S LINK FOR THE REST!


Secret military tests have been going on for decades, you think they just stopped all of a sudden?

Military types are conditioned "YES" men, yes Sir, no Sir, 3X4 Sir, ask shakey he's a military officer, he probably can't say it, but he knows it.

I was discussing a revolution in Ireland before and another military man from this site said that he would do whatever it takes to put down any revolution, he swore an oath to do so.
So if any undesireables were to try take power from the Govt who sold us out, the undesireables would face the same scenes we now see in Syria, remember RoboCop in town?, have you ever got a smack of a baton?, they are not all soft and fluffy and one smack could easily kill, look at the newspaper seller in London, attacked for nothing.

So with the knowledge that secret experiments are a fact of life, why do you so extremely oppose the notion that something "could" be getting sprayed?.

Secret US Human Biological Experimentation
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/experiment.htm

Talk E

Di0genes wrote: »

Kill their friends and family? Kill their countrymen?

No, kill others friends, family and countrymen, while others kill theirs.

Monty Burnz

Uprising, you make some valid points there. But do you see any evidence for the ground operation? Bearing in mind also that the trails that we see are coming from civilian planes, not military, there would have to be huge levels of cooperation and collaboration from the aviation industry.

uprising2

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Uprising, you make some valid points there. But do you see any evidence for the ground operation? Bearing in mind also that the trails that we see are coming from civilian planes, not military, there would have to be huge levels of cooperation and collaboration from the aviation industry.

It would only require a "special" mix of fuel, to say keep the jet working at optimum levels, who makes jet fuel?, the oil industry, the joesoap thats adding the special mix wouldn't be suspicious, like adding 2 stroke oil to petrol in a 2 stroke engine, or being told it's 2 stroke oil, I wouldn't be tasting it to make sure it was 2 stroke oil.

Monty Burnz

uprising2 wrote: »

It would only require a "special" mix of fuel, to say keep the jet working at optimum levels, who makes jet fuel?, the oil industry, the joesoap thats adding the special mix wouldn't be suspicious, like adding 2 stroke oil to petrol in a 2 stroke engine, or being told it's 2 stroke oil, I wouldn't be tasting it to make sure it was 2 stroke oil.

I'd be pretty confident that airlines check what they are putting in their planes, and check their engines for any unusual wear or residues when they are serviced. It's also hard to see exactly what can be added to fuel that will have the dual effect of improving efficiency and achieving the real primary goal of 'spraying' (what is this goal, by the way?).

Even if you are correct, you still need the complicity of the people who manage the fuel for the airlines, those who service the engines, and the employees at the oil companies where this product was developed and is produced. Still tens of thousands of people are involved in the ground operation.

uprising2

Try some of this....

Monty I've been over this a million times and it just goes in circle's, sorry bud but I'm fed up with it, I could write a long response and add Raytheon and their aquired Patents and whatever else, or claims to have uncovered a variety of chemicals and other substances, including barium, aluminum oxide, microscopic fibers and oil-based products, none of which are intrinsic to normal jet fuel.

I'll run away to fight another day on this one....

DeBunny

Mystery solved.

Moisture in low pressure, then high pressure, then sudden low pressure = "chemtrails". If you don't see chemtrails then there was no moisture.

RGDATA!

CiaranMT wrote: »

Has to be the jackhammers, *puff* I mean, what else could it be? *puff*

thanks, i needed that explained to me! :pac:

CiaranMT

DeBunny wrote: »

Mystery solved.

Moisture in low pressure, then high pressure, then sudden low pressure = "chemtrails". If you don't see chemtrails then there was no moisture.

Class :cool:

RGDATA! wrote: »

thanks, i needed that explained to me! :pac:

Don't worry, took me a minute to cop it too!

Monty Burnz

DeBunny wrote: »

Moisture in low pressure, then high pressure, then sudden low pressure = "chemtrails". If you don't see chemtrails then there was no moisture.

Yeah, but where do the Illuminati come into it?

constance tench

Some interesting technology here

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/mkts.html

What a shame it wasn't utilised at Fukushima.

uprising2

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yeah, but where do the Illuminati come into it?

They destroy the earth with all the plastic bottles that take a trillion years to biodegrade.

uprising2

constance tench wrote: »

Some interesting technology here

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/mkts.html

What a shame it wasn't utilised at Fukushima.

It could have made things a lot worse, the force of that amount of water could have broke more concrete.
They tried with little helicopters and still couldn't get it right/hit the target.

uprising2

constance tench wrote: »

Some interesting technology here

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/mkts.html

What a shame it wasn't utilised at Fukushima.

Who's a clever boy then?, not me.

A little bird whispered in my ear, singing sweet song's of melodies pure and true, saying, this is my message to you......HOO.....HOO, singing don't worry about a thing, cause every little thing gonna be alright!

Here's what the little bird said...

"On Feb 18, 2010 NotForSale from the Intel Hub interviewed a whistleblower employed as a private contractor at an Evergreen Air facility. The information he provided was mind blowing. Never before had a whistleblower came forward about this top secret facility located in the Arizona desert north of Tucson. In the interview the whistleblower described how the facility is heavily secured by well armed personnel. During his time at the facility he was involved in retro fitting 727 and 747-c aircraft with liquid discharge tanks and aerosol sprayer devices. He has also confirmed reports of triangular black jets at the facility as well during his time there in the early 1990’s. It is also important to note that the facility owns fully functional warbirds that have been fully restored from WWII, where all of the weapon systems and bomb bay doors are operable on the craft. This type of craft is not authorized by civilian, public or private use within the U.S. This would indicate that Evergreen Air is indeed a CIA operation. The Whistleblower has also heard there is an underground base at the facility and confirms there is a possible “Black Helicopter” base on site as well.Note: Evergreen Air also specializes in unmanned aerial drones. " (Gone 404)


Facts Regarding Evergreen Air

Editors Note: Spraying for chemtrails would almost be a normal thing for Evergreen Air. This “front” company has been exposed as taking part in such shady events as problems with its “non” profit museum, making a substantial amount of money off the Iraq War, gun running in Central America, chauffeuring dictators, and among other things, flying Bill O Reilly to Iraq.


Evergreen International Aviation, Inc. is an Oregon-based aviation company with longstanding ties to the CIA. Its huge Evergreen Maintenance Center in Arizona was bought from the Agency, which offered the property to no-one else.[1]In 1980 an Evergreen plane flew the recently deposed Shah of Iran from Panama to Egypt, hours before the Panamanian government was due to receive an extradition request from the new government in Tehran.[1] Giving rides to dictators is something of a specialty for the company – it also allowed El Salvador‘s President Duarte to use its helicopter, which was officially in the country to help repair power lines.[1]
And according to a series of articles in The Oregonian in 1988, Evergreen’s owner and founder Delford M. Smith “…acknowledged one agreement under which his companies provide occasional jobs and cover to foreign nationals the CIA wants taken out of other countries or brought into the United States. However, neither Smith nor CIA officials would say whether any broader agreement existed.”

Since 1973 the CIA had been anticipating this and had moved quickly to give all of its clandestinely owned aircraft to its alleged proprietary, Evergreen International based out of Marana Air Park near Tucson Arizona and McMinville Oregon, near Portland. Coincidentally, Medford Oregon is the home base of aircraft broker Roy Reagan. Reagan was convicted in 1997, along with another man on criminal charges stemming from a scheme to fraudulently take $80 million worth of airplanes from the U.S. government and place them in private hands. Reagan was also the broker for Evergreen according to a lawsuit filed by former CIA pilot Gary Eitel.


Marana Airpark (Google Maps), Could this be a secret fitting centre?, why not?, the CIA are all over it.

Talk E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3bwd6nEkCQ

DeBunny

Talk E

LSD chemtrailing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx2aXPS4hfM

Monty Burnz

Talk E wrote: »

LSD chemtrailing.

The dose, however, proved rather difficult to control.

Holy god, I'd say there's a mountain of horror and comedy hiding behind that bland statement.

Talk E

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Holy god, I'd say there's a mountain of horror and comedy hiding behind that bland statement.

Ha ha, that's one test I wouldn't mind being an unwitting participant in

jackiebaron

I don't believe this chemtrail sh!t for a second. Why would they do it? You release some gas at 30,000 feet over Wexford it's going to make landfall in feckin Nova Scotia or Kazakhstan or some place.

You want to drug the population just tamper with the water supply. You'll have everyone doped up by tea-time.

Talk E

They have tampered with the water supply but that another thread.

They have also admitted chemtrailing the public in the UK for decades in the past.

pirate1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU&feature=player_embedded