Raw Thread 14/02 spoilers within

parker kent · 16-02-2011 11:35PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Haters gonna hate, I can never defeat such debating genius....

I've given Cena 9 years, I think that is more than enough to decide whether I like the guy or not. I've also said in posts, that whilst I may never fully warm to him, it should be possible for me to say that his character is well booked and that he is doing a good job. I've said that plenty of times. That is pretty much the opposite of the "haters gonna hate" stuff that is lazily thrown at people like who make perfectly valid criticisms of Cena.

davrho wrote: »

Many dirtsheets have the WWE on the edge of financial ruin even though they post huge profits and massive diviends to their shareholders on their legally binding accounts annually(quarterly).

Remember the IWC remember dirt shirt rumours and accounting matters more than the WWE annual accounts which have to be made public.

In fairness to myself and other posters on here, we generally are referencing the WWE's annual reports. That is where I got some of my earlier information and I think most regular posters on here are smart enough to know the difference between dirt sheet speculation and annual reports. That being said, any annual report should be taken with a pinch of salt. As any accountant or financial analyst will tell you, financial reporting is as much an art as it is a matter of facts. A creative accountant is a very sought after talent!

On the matter of dirtsheets and moving away from your post, not every person who dislikes Cena (or any other aspect of wrestling) is a dirtsheet obsessed, smart fan who only likes heels. I actually very rarely read the "proper" dirtsheets that publish the usual BS rumours. There are plenty of wrestling fans who are discerning enough to move beyond thinking what a dirtsheet or the IWC tells them. I actually didn't know what IWC meant until the middle of last year...the shame :pac:

parker kent · 16-02-2011 11:40PM

CMpunked wrote: »

On Monday?
Nah dont think so. I think he said that he achieved all that he wanted to achieve so he went off to movies to achieve another boyhood dream (im paraphrasing that and what he said at the start of january.)

John Piermarini, the former creative guy at WWE, said on Tuesday in his blog that they were very close to having him as Raw guest host twice and they made several other offers to Rocky over the years but he always outright rejected them or hummed and hawed before finally rejecting them.

Diabhal Beag · 16-02-2011 11:43PM

This is like the worst phone sex conversation ever. Rewatched the Rock promo and not it isn't over-rated. Its just a great promo.

CMpunked · 16-02-2011 11:59PM

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

This is like the worst phone sex conversation ever. Rewatched the Rock promo and not it isn't over-rated. Its just a great promo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNdgLIDTEv4

parker kent wrote: »

John Piermarini, the former creative guy at WWE, said on Tuesday in his blog that they were very close to having him as Raw guest host twice and they made several other offers to Rocky over the years but he always outright rejected them or hummed and hawed before finally rejecting them.

Didnt know that now.
I bet one of them was jan 4th last year.

When you think about it (i kinda have to retract what he i said earlier on with this:)
7 Movies in 2 years (5 major roles) sounds like a pretty hectic scheduale.

jaykhunter · 17-02-2011 12:00AM

jaysus, this thread/discussion/argument is still going

shoryuken14 · 17-02-2011 12:05AM

Just thought i would let you all know Silvervision.ie are selling ''The Rock the most eclectrifrying man in sports entertainment'' dvd for 13 squid delivered. Not bad considering nearly 8 hours of footage to enjoy.

jaykhunter · 17-02-2011 12:11AM

shoryuken14 wrote: »

Just thought i would let you all know Silvervision.ie are selling ''The Rock the most eclectrifrying man in sports entertainment'' dvd for 13 squid delivered. Not bad considering nearly 8 hours of footage to enjoy.

His career was 1996-2003 and the meat of it was late 98-01 so most of that is in the scratch logo WWF era; i'd imagine it's riddled with blurring and muting?

shoryuken14 · 17-02-2011 12:15AM

I suppose it would but ive got The best of raw on dvd and never really noticed it, obviously youd rather it wasnt blurred out, but come on, 8 hours of The Rock for 13 quid is well worth it

D.Q · 17-02-2011 12:27AM

I suppose for a lot of people, myself included, the Rocks promo the other night, really allowed us to suspend our disbelief again.

I mean obviously we do anyway, but with a degree of, "oh, they are going down this road with the that angle, they must be trying to push this guy" etc etc.

But for me, the other night, was the first time in a long time I have been truly excited about something like that in wrestling. Which is why I am completely ignoring logic and the cynic in me, and hoping that it is a bit of a proper return.

When he said "I'm never ever going away", my jaw dropped like, I didn't expect that at all. Obviously, the voice inside my head(ugh..) started to say, "he definitely doesnt mean that", but for the first time in years, for the next six weeks or so, I'm just going to be completely naive and enjoy it. Basically be a complete and total fanboy and defend Rocky to the last...

ManofStraw · 17-02-2011 12:34AM

D.Q wrote: »

I suppose for a lot of people, myself included, the Rocks promo the other night, really allowed us to suspend our disbelief again.

I mean obviously we do anyway, but with a degree of, "oh, they are going down this road with the that angle, they must be trying to push this guy" etc etc.

But for me, the other night, was the first time in a long time I have been truly excited about something like that in wrestling. Which is why I am completely ignoring logic and the cynic in me, and hoping that it is a bit of a proper return.

When he said "I'm never ever going away", my jaw dropped like, I didn't expect that at all. Obviously, the voice inside my head(ugh..) started to say, "he definitely doesnt mean that", but for the first time in years, for the next six weeks or so, I'm just going to be completely naive and enjoy it. Basically be a complete and total fanboy and defend Rocky to the last...

I feel the same in I'm complete fanboy mode at the min, I havn't been this excited about wrestling since Brock Lesnar was in his prime

JP Liz V1 · 17-02-2011 12:41AM

D.Q wrote: »

I suppose for a lot of people, myself included, the Rocks promo the other night, really allowed us to suspend our disbelief again.

I mean obviously we do anyway, but with a degree of, "oh, they are going down this road with the that angle, they must be trying to push this guy" etc etc.

But for me, the other night, was the first time in a long time I have been truly excited about something like that in wrestling. Which is why I am completely ignoring logic and the cynic in me, and hoping that it is a bit of a proper return.

When he said "I'm never ever going away", my jaw dropped like, I didn't expect that at all. Obviously, the voice inside my head(ugh..) started to say, "he definitely doesnt mean that", but for the first time in years, for the next six weeks or so, I'm just going to be completely naive and enjoy it. Basically be a complete and total fanboy and defend Rocky to the last...

Yes it is great seeing him back

I was just thinking how come Miz or Cena (since his moto is dont back down from anyone) didnt come out when Rock mentioned them

I guess they knew Rock would tear them apart on the mic and on his big return interrupting him would make them the biggest villian on the planet

D.Q · 17-02-2011 12:46AM

Especially Cena. If he had of come out, there would have been some serious hate.

Nah, I think that moment needed to be its own moment. No one else was needed. Although I must say, I am looking forward to a possible Cena reply on Monday.

Next mondays raw has so much going for it...Will Rock be there? What will Cena/Miz have to say? Taker is coming back, and speculation is certainly picking up that HHH is on his way back as well. Not to mention the backlash from the EC ppv.

Exclamation Marc · 17-02-2011 01:00AM

D.Q wrote: »

No one else was needed.

I absolutely detest Michael Cole, but I thought the way there was a little bit of interaction with him and The Rock really helped Michael Cole's character in the grand scheme of things, in the way he had this sneering cocky smug look on his face when the GM mailed him, and then was completely put in his place by The Rock and left speechless.

It did a good job to further him as the cowardly heel.

D.Q · 17-02-2011 01:03AM

True. I completely forgot about that, it was brilliant.

On the subject of Raw as a whole(Apparently there was a show before the Rock came out...?), its bad to say considering the reason for his absence, but not hearing Lawlor was a breath of fresh air.

davrho · 17-02-2011 01:55AM

CMpunked wrote: »

why would you post this to a man who it admitts WWE is make believe?

CMpunked · 17-02-2011 02:05AM

davrho wrote: »

why would you post this to a man who it admitts WWE is make believe?

do you know what the story is behind that picture?

davrho · 17-02-2011 02:13AM

CMpunked wrote: »

do you know what the story is behind that picture?

No, no I do not...............

Tell me more

Gerard.C · 17-02-2011 02:19AM

Hahahah oh god I'd forgotton about that fella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI

I'd say that fella HATES John Cena :pac:

CMpunked · 17-02-2011 02:23AM

davrho wrote: »

No, no I do not...............

Tell me more

In short the video above surfaced a few years back and was met with a mix of smarky comments and some admiration.
Over time the quote "it's still real to me, dammit!" became something that would be said whenever someone posted something that refered to believing kayfabe or whatever like such.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-still-real-to-me-damn-it

Big Daddy Cool · 17-02-2011 09:57AM

flahavaj wrote: »

Because they'll be absolutely mad to see the hero that turned his back on them get his ass kicked by whatever face is put against him. Its pretty basic PW booking 101 tbh and it helps make new stars.

No doubt you'll then turn on whatever face is put in the top spot because he doesn't talk about sticking his mickey in a pie or whooping some candified ass. And Cena will be the greatest thing since the People's Elbow.:pac:

oh believe me, he wont be the greatest thing since anything, and no matter how many endorsements vince wants to give him, ie austin at the hall of fame, and probably from the rock at mania, as a character he's just not believable in anything he does or says and if he turns heel the only thing he might improve is his promos, anyway in my opinion turning heel wont happen anytime soon cos like you said yesterday Younger viewers absolutely love him the way he is. They think its gas when he says ''poopy''. They don't care about his punches, And it is these younger viewers that Vince now wants to cater for. and as long as they buy his merchandise by the truckloads, he'll be vinces no.1 man and thats the end of that.

Bubs101 · 17-02-2011 10:04AM

flahavaj wrote: »

101

You Called?

Professey Chin · 17-02-2011 11:13AM

shoryuken14 wrote: »

Just thought i would let you all know Silvervision.ie are selling ''The Rock the most eclectrifrying man in sports entertainment'' dvd for 13 squid delivered. Not bad considering nearly 8 hours of footage to enjoy.

Bought along with the best of raw double pack for 12.
Im gonna be 15 again :pac:

davrho · 17-02-2011 11:18AM

CMpunked wrote: »

In short the video above surfaced a few years back and was met with a mix of smarky comments and some admiration.
Over time the quote "it's still real to me, dammit!" became something that would be said whenever someone posted something that refered to believing kayfabe or whatever like such.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-still-real-to-me-damn-it

whooooooooosh

I was acting the maggot mate.

paddyismaddy · 18-02-2011 03:06PM

damn that was of the best raw shows in a very long time

DM_7 · 18-02-2011 06:58PM

The Rock is Back

:D:D:D:D:D

I have nothing else to add.

DM_7 · 19-02-2011 02:23PM

I found something to add. I really enjoyed the Cena v Punk match, the ending was smart.

CMpunked · 19-02-2011 02:29PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I found something to add. I really enjoyed the Cena v Punk match, the ending was smart.

I thought the match was really good too, especially watching it again yesterday.
When it was live on monday the rock had me in a tunnel vision of sorts, everything else played second fiddle.

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