Nokia N8 Megathread

goatboy1000 · 06-12-2010 07:45PM

Davy wrote: »

Ok it sounds like its just a settings problem, and not a network problem as you have full signal.

Go to menu > settings > connectivity > settings > destinations and tell me whats in the 'internet' section and whats in 'wap' and which has the little tick beside it?

There are three access points in the internet section, two wireless and the third is 'Vodafone ISP' - priority 3
There's one access point in the WAP section, just called vodafone live.
The tick is beside Internet.
Thanks for the help, it's wrecking my head!

Davy · 06-12-2010 07:52PM

goatboy1000 wrote: »

There are three access points in the internet section, two wireless and the third is 'Vodafone ISP' - priority 3
There's one access point in the WAP section, just called vodafone live.
The tick is beside Internet.
Thanks for the help, it's wrecking my head!

Are you trying to use the vodafone live 99 cent a day on prepay?

goatboy1000 · 06-12-2010 07:54PM

Nope, I'm on 60 a month bill

Davy · 06-12-2010 08:00PM

goatboy1000 wrote: »

Nope, I'm on 60 a month bill

Change V isp to priority 1, open the web app. Go to options > settings > general > access point ans select 'ask when needed'. Then select Vf isp, or wlan whatever and should be ok.

goatboy1000 · 06-12-2010 08:07PM

Excellent, I've done that.
I can check it out tomorrow, my 3g reception is not great at home anyway, but I'll test it out in town,
Thanks again.

Davy · 06-12-2010 08:10PM

You dont have to be in 3G coverage,once you have coverage you can still connect

goatboy1000 · 06-12-2010 08:18PM

In that case it's still not working, just says 'connection failed' and 'connection unavailable' in the top left....

Davy · 06-12-2010 08:38PM

goatboy1000 wrote: »

In that case it's still not working, just says 'connection failed' and 'connection unavailable' in the top left....

Even with 'Vf live'? You have signal to make calls dont you?

goatboy1000 · 06-12-2010 08:44PM

Yeah, it's connecting with vf live, just not with vodafone isp.

ugni · 07-12-2010 02:58PM

Are nokia n8 phones easily unlocked?

Davy · 07-12-2010 03:07PM

ugni wrote: »

Are nokia n8 phones easily unlocked?

About €40

no1beemerfan · 07-12-2010 03:35PM

I'd an n97 and while I liked it I wasn't 100% happy with it. The touch screen used to do my head in at times and it used to freeze on me. I kept everything up to date on it through ovi-suite. Also its too bulky so I actually bought a basic no frills phone and used it a lot at weekends!

Anyways I've just got an n8 and am loving it so far. Have updated the maps etc through ovi suite and the touch screen is lovely to use.

Phone is neater too but its a bit shiny so easy to slip out of sweaty hands but so far so good.

Just have to figure out how to save DVDs to it. Have about 1,000 songs on it now and the FM tuner is a bit more stable compared to the n97.

rickyjb · 07-12-2010 03:56PM

Anyone recommend a decent 32gb microSD card that works well with this phone? I know some cards really slow things up but it's mainly transfer times from my pc/hard drive I'd be concerned with, I wouldn't be running apps off it or anything. I assume even the cheaper ones can handle music playback?

I lost my mp3 player and recently bought one of these so I'm thinking it could do the job just as well if I had the storage.

who_ru · 08-12-2010 06:17PM

don't shoot the messenger here but saw this on a review site about the nokia N8

Recommend to a friend? No
"1. Old CPU — ARM11;
2. Small RAM - 256Mb;
3. Out-of-date OS — Symbian"

thoughts?

dr ro · 08-12-2010 06:43PM

who_ru wrote: »

don't shoot the messenger here but saw this on a review site about the nokia N8

Recommend to a friend? No
"1. Old CPU — ARM11;
2. Small RAM - 256Mb;
3. Out-of-date OS — Symbian"

thoughts?

BANG

KrisW · 08-12-2010 10:03PM

who_ru wrote: »

don't shoot the messenger here but saw this on a review site about the nokia N8

Recommend to a friend? No
"1. Old CPU — ARM11;
2. Small RAM - 256Mb;
3. Out-of-date OS — Symbian"

thoughts?

Oh dear God, save us from the measurebators... Complain about something tangible (use an N8 for a bit, and you will find things to complain about), but shouting specsheet numbers makes this guy look like a nerd... and a nerd who didn't even use the phone.

For the record, the "old" CPU and "out of date OS" on this phone still manage to be as fast as an Android phone with a 1GHz CPU in real use... with the proviso that the software is up to date and makes use of the on-board graphics acceleration.

As an example of that, I've the next version of the mapping application on mine, and it's fast and responsive despite using more computationally-expensive vector mapping. Any of the other new applications I've seen are very smooth in operation too. Older stuff written for Series60 is a bit clunky, but the new applications are very slick.

Why? Well, the CPU has a ****-hot GPU to help it with the eye-candy, and once you've got your graphics done, there's not much number-crunching you need to do on a phone handset. Games performance is up to iPhone4 levels, too, which says a lot for the GPU here (granted, it's only moving a third of the number of pixels around as the iPhone, but resolution is less important than smoothness).

Symbian is an incredibly efficient OS; the only proper real-time OS in the current market*, but it has been difficult to program because of this - it was designed when 4 Megabytes was a lot of memory, and 0.1 GHz was a fast CPU, so it puts a lot of responsibility back on the programmer, and 256 Mbyte of RAM is plenty - the OS and runtime aren't gobbling it all up before you get a look-in.

The major benefit of the "slow" CPU is longer battery life and low heat dissipation - much more useful features in a mobile device than having the "biggest number".

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* Android ultimately runs on top of a Linux kernel; Apple use BSD/Mach. Neither are real-time OS kernels, so once you've a lot of processes running, you need to bump up clock speed to achieve acceptable event latency.

who_ru · 08-12-2010 10:21PM

isn't Meego going to be used in the new N series phones (after N8) from nokia?

jimmynokia · 08-12-2010 10:27PM

who_ru wrote: »

isn't Meego going to be used in the new N series phones (after N8) from nokia?

symbian 4 is next

KrisW · 08-12-2010 11:48PM

N9 is to be the first Nokia Meego handset. N8 is probably the last N-series handset to run Symbian, but this isn't really as big a deal as it sounds, because the difference between Symbian and Meego will get very small from a user's point of view.

There is no Symbian^4 anymore, just "Symbian". Features and applications that were to be released in the ^4 release will be released to current users as software updates as and when they are available.

Nokia wrote:

One benefit of this simplified approach is that planned and future improvements in Symbian will be developed in Qt and will be compatible with the existing Symbian^3 platform release. This means that Nokia's continued commitment to develop the Symbian platform will benefit not only future users of Symbian-based products, but will result in updates and upgrades for existing Symbian^3 users. The resulting change to a model of continuous evolution replaces the previous release-based model. Nokia will no longer refer to Symbian^3 or Symbian^4. The benefit to consumers will be a constant improvement in the experience of their Symbian-based Nokia products.

Béal an capall

As far as I can see, the delays in Symbian^3 handsets were to largely allow them to ship with the Qt runtime libraries that will underpin future Nokia handset applications.

Qt (pronounced "cute", but don't hold that against them, it's probably less silly in Norwegian) is a common set of features that application developers can use to build their apps. Nokia make sure that these Qt features are provided on both Symbian and Meego handsets, and look the same on both OSes, so the upshot is that developers won't have to care whether the underlying system is Meego or Symbian, unless they're doing something very hardware specific. As a bonus, with a one-time (but big) download, a lot of Series60 handsets can run Qt apps too.

rickyjb · 09-12-2010 11:38AM

I spent about 3 hours last night unsuccessfully trying to use my N8 with my wireless router at home (BT Voyager 2110). It will connect but when I try to use the internet I get "Invalid Server Name" - is there anything I can do?? I even went to the trouble of specifying all the IPv4 parameters such as the IP address, default gateway, subnet mask etc. as recommended on a Nokia forum but still no joy. Has anyone else had the same problem, is it my router (which works fine with 2 laptops) or is it the N8?

Kenny Powers · 09-12-2010 11:45AM

this used to happen to some of my old Nokia phones when I did a hard reset and then restored a full back up the only fix I found was to back up your contacts and do a hard reset and then just restore the contacts you'll have to do all the settings etc manual

KrisW · 09-12-2010 12:03PM

rickyjb wrote: »

I spent about 3 hours last night unsuccessfully trying to use my N8 with my wireless router at home (BT Voyager 2110). It will connect but when I try to use the internet I get "Invalid Server Name" - is there anything I can do?? I even went to the trouble of specifying all the IPv4 parameters such as the IP address, default gateway, subnet mask etc. as recommended on a Nokia forum but still no joy. Has anyone else had the same problem, is it my router (which works fine with 2 laptops) or is it the N8?

I suspect it's the router, tbh - I've had loads of problems with all kinds of mobile devices and DNS..

Dunno if this will help, but you could try making your WLAN the first-choice access point:

Settings > Connectivity > Settings > Destinations > Internet

Change the priority of the access points to make your WLAN first-priority: Long-press on your WLAN and choose "Change priority", then tap the first item in the list of WLANs.

Italia · 09-12-2010 04:00PM

Short of a hard restore, does anyone know how I can re-download the Nokia Midnight theme?
It started coming down, downloaded about 75% of the file and then told me d/l was complete. When I try to install it, get failure message.
Looked in Application manager, but no sign of it (so can delete).

Any suggestions?

Only negative side, is that I cannot get the battery to last more than 2 days even though I've switched off just about everything. Tbh, the difference in battery life between most stuff switched on and switched off is only about 1hr.
Yes, I let battery go flat every time just to 'condition it'

BTW, have had the phone for 3 weeks and like it more and more. Compared to the N8, the Iphone 3GS (got it as a freebie from my brother in law) is a piece of crap. Whoever heard of a phone that needs to be activated via iTunes???????????????

rickyjb · 09-12-2010 06:02PM

KrisW wrote: »

I suspect it's the router, tbh - I've had loads of problems with all kinds of mobile devices and DNS..

Dunno if this will help, but you could try making your WLAN the first-choice access point:

Settings > Connectivity > Settings > Destinations > Internet

Change the priority of the access points to make your WLAN first-priority: Long-press on your WLAN and choose "Change priority", then tap the first item in the list of WLANs.

Wlan is already no.1 in that priority list (not that that seems to do anything, it still uses data if i open ovi store when I'm at home).

You say you've had problems with this particular router? It must be pretty old now I guess. If it works with 2 laptops (one quite new) there's no reason it shouldn't work with this phone though.

@kenny powers: I'm not sure I follow, you say you used to have problems when you did a hard reset and back up but then to fix it you did another hard reset?? I've already manually entered pretty much everything I can bar the DNS registers in the IPv6 menu and those are REALLY long:pac:

Do Nokia even have a phone number I can ring?? Couldn't find any on the web and that website is s***e.

Its bullhsit tbh, the phone should easily connect to any router straight out of the box. I also couldn't get the HDMI cable to play through my tv. I use the cable with my laptop all the time and have no problems

steo2009 · 09-12-2010 06:07PM

the nokia n8 looks to be a bit slow, the processor looks ok, but it seems to lag a bit, compared to say the htc desire.

Davy · 09-12-2010 07:28PM

rickyjb wrote: »

Wlan is already no.1 in that priority list (not that that seems to do anything, it still uses data if i open ovi store when I'm at home).

'Internet' is not set as the default connection. Go to connectivity and destinations, and make internet the default connection. All you have to do is click options, and then default connection. It will have a little arrow beside it then to signify it.

rickyjb wrote: »

Do Nokia even have a phone number I can ring?? Couldn't find any on the web and that website is s***e.

Its bullhsit tbh, the phone should easily connect to any router straight out of the box.

It does, its just some setting thats not correct. Mine is setup for different wlan access points and i haven't had any trouble. I suggest you delete the access point you have setup. Then go to scan, find your router, enter the WEP/WPA etc and see how you get on. Dont bother with extra settings just yet.

rickyjb wrote: »

I also couldn't get the HDMI cable to play through my tv. I use the cable with my laptop all the time and have no problems

They only thing you have to do is selct the correct hdmi source on the tv, and ofcourse have the cable connected to the phone. Their shouldn't be any problem

steo2009 wrote: »

the nokia n8 looks to be a bit slow, the processor looks ok, but it seems to lag a bit, compared to say the htc desire.

Try one out yourself, and you will its not slow

Kenny Powers · 09-12-2010 09:01PM

rickyjb wrote: »

Wlan is already no.1 in that priority list (not that that seems to do anything, it still uses data if i open ovi store when I'm at home).

You say you've had problems with this particular router? It must be pretty old now I guess. If it works with 2 laptops (one quite new) there's no reason it shouldn't work with this phone though.

@kenny powers: I'm not sure I follow, you say you used to have problems when you did a hard reset and back up but then to fix it you did another hard reset?? I've already manually entered pretty much everything I can bar the DNS registers in the IPv6 menu and those are REALLY long:pac:

Do Nokia even have a phone number I can ring?? Couldn't find any on the web and that website is s***e.

Its bullhsit tbh, the phone should easily connect to any router straight out of the box. I also couldn't get the HDMI cable to play through my tv. I use the cable with my laptop all the time and have no problems

read my post above

Italia · 09-12-2010 10:36PM

Are you serious with your statement or just being a troll?

Can't compare apples & pears. It's the same as saying I've a petrol Mercedes and it goes faster than a Ford diesel. Yes, they're both cars, but that is where it stops. The same with the phones.

The OS plays a part in all of this. Because Android sits on top of a *.nix base and Symbian doesn't, the needs are different and can get away with a slower processor for symbian, giving virtually the same results.

I have both an N8 and an Iphone - IMHO the N8 is marginally (and I'm talking real fractions of seconds) 'slower' than the Iphone in certain aspects. You really need to use a stopwatch. For the average user - no difference. A mate of mine has the Desire - some things appear quicker (eg loading web pages, flipping screens); most appear the same (eg: loading a spreadsheet, making a phone call).

steo2009 wrote: »

the nokia n8 looks to be a bit slow, the processor looks ok, but it seems to lag a bit, compared to say the htc desire.

mumof2 · 10-12-2010 12:33AM

Can someone please verify -

With WIFI, does this mean no charges for being online once your in a wifi spot? And the allowance (on bill pay) 1Gb, is this enough for being on facebook, banking, emails etc on a daily basis? (I understand Sat nav needs no internet connection)...

Appreciate feedback.

Thank you.

(im debating whether to get the Sony Ericsson Eperia X8 or the Nokia N8, however one is PAYG and this one Bill Pay.....)

Davy · 10-12-2010 12:39AM

Yes to both questions.

Maps can be used with or without a data connection. 1gb is enough for most people for average use

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