Is Simon Cowell the cancer of the music industry

Gunsfortoys · 03-10-2010 08:27PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

AC/DC are Pop Music though.

Pop Music is music which is popular, which is mainstream and which gets airplay.

They've sold over 160 million albums.

Back in Black is the biggest selling album by a band in the history of music.

Doesn't get much "pop" than that does it?

AC/DC weren't pop in their day. Them, like all rock bands were not in charts or anything, they were considered "the devils music" just as much as a lot of bands back then, they became more popular over time.

stovelid · 03-10-2010 08:28PM

Not the big C I was thinking of really.

greenmachine88 · 03-10-2010 08:29PM

I for one cannot STAND Leona Lewis

Big Nasty · 03-10-2010 08:34PM

It's as simple as this - there's a lot of tasteless gombeens in the world.

The Irish Times is the leading newspaper in the country but is way outsold by the redtops - why?

Similalry the tripe that is 'pop' today which is encouraged, if not fueled, by the likes of Cowell makes it near impossible for a 'real' band to succeed.

If Cowell was a true representative of proper bands playing proper music he wouldn't entertain, never mind help, this fabricated ****e music.

Superbus · 03-10-2010 08:39PM

TBH who cares, let the 'uncultured masses' like whatever they like, stick in the headphones and listen to whatever you want. It's pretty easy to avoid popular culture if you want to.

Scuid Mhór · 03-10-2010 08:40PM

greenmachine88 wrote: »

I for one cannot STAND Leona Lewis

ah here. she's probably the most talented artist to come out of the x factor.

MrStuffins · 03-10-2010 08:44PM

Superbus wrote: »

TBH who cares, let the 'uncultured masses' like whatever they like, stick in the headphones and listen to whatever you want. It's pretty easy to avoid popular culture if you want to.

I have very little knowledge of much of the music in the charts now.

I have my iPod chock-a-block with the stuff i like. I knows what i likes so i listen to what i likes!

But i don't deprive myself of liking the odd pop song just because i like "real" music. I thought that kinda thinking kinda leaves you when you're in your late teens (at least it should).

Armin_Tamzarian · 03-10-2010 08:44PM

gsxr1 wrote: »

Most bands with the M CD banner over them. I work at them.

I have a list as long as my arm.

I think he meant 'what town?'.

Big Nasty · 03-10-2010 08:46PM

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

I think he meant 'what town?'.

Biko wannabe?

th3 s1aught3r · 03-10-2010 08:47PM

Simon Cowell is selling a product called music
They package it as 5 guys sitting on stools, or 5 girls wearing very little and its all a business to them, its all about money

gsxr1 · 03-10-2010 08:48PM

38 views
39 comments.

seems like everyone has an opinion on this.

cant wait till the X factor brigade log on in 20 mins

Big Nasty · 03-10-2010 08:49PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Simon Cowell is selling a product called music
They package it as 5 guys sitting on stools, or 5 girls wearing very little and its all a business to them, its all about money

Yeah - and feck all to do with music IMO!

Knifey Spoony · 03-10-2010 09:12PM

The debate here is between someone whose music and lyrics are written for them and people who write there own lyrics, try and get across there own ideas and emotions, and possibly play there own instruments. The former is the x-factor, the latter is what I would call real music, whether it would be classed as pop, rock or metal and this is the kind of music that I have nothing but respect for. If this makes me a music snob, then I'll happily wollow in my own snobbishness.

th3 s1aught3r · 03-10-2010 09:20PM

As well as Cowell and his type, the record companies dont nurture talent at all, they just strip it down to units sold. There is always a big market for quality music , we are just not hearing it becasue no company wants to take a risk on a new band when they know they can sell Girls Aloud and the other ****e they have

bnt · 03-10-2010 09:28PM

As far as I'm concerned, the last "impresario" to get it right was Trevor Horn. It helped that he was a musician first (Buggles, The Art Of Noise), then a producer, before he got in to directly promoting acts like Seal and Frankie Goes To Hollywood. The music never takes a back seat to the image.

Logical Fallacy · 03-10-2010 09:31PM

gsxr1 wrote: »

Yet a band who practice 3 times a week, for years now, and do it for there love of the crowd and the music will never get a chance. it BS to be honest.

Maybe they are ****?

Not being mean, but the majority of bands in Dublin, or Ireland for that matter, are ****. A couple of decent ones stand out, but none of them are very interesting or innovative, they all just tend to sound like that last big band whose names started with "The" that came out.

Saila · 03-10-2010 09:38PM

Im confused, this is AH why is no one blaming the government for this, surely they are somehow to blame no :mad:

Carl Sagan · 03-10-2010 09:41PM

All music is shit and all music is brilliant.

Big Nasty · 03-10-2010 09:44PM

Carl Sagan wrote: »

All music is shit and all music is brilliant.

QED!?????????! :eek:

Saila · 03-10-2010 09:45PM

Pop music is POPULAR cowell and co sells truckloads of crap music to teenagers and they buy it by the truckload. most radiostations are pimps for his crap and the whole pop machine, get over to phantom if you want real music.

knird evol · 03-10-2010 09:45PM

Saila wrote: »

why is no one blaming the government for this

Cause its all your fault

Memnoch · 03-10-2010 09:47PM

Blaming Simon Cowell for destroying "real" music is like blaming the tabloids for besmirching "real" journalism, rather than blaming the people who purchase the tabloids.

Big Nasty · 03-10-2010 09:51PM

Memnoch wrote: »

Blaming Simon Cowell for destroying "real" music is like blaming the tabloids for besmirching "real" journalism, rather than blaming the people who purchase the tabloids.

Eh, if so called journalists and so called music promoters didn't shove this ****e down our throat in the first place we wouldn't have to listen to / read it!

Zombienosh · 03-10-2010 09:53PM

The "Industry" ruined music.

/end

fruvai · 03-10-2010 09:53PM

I'm glad the music industry is dying

bryaner · 03-10-2010 09:59PM

gsxr1 wrote: »

but its not the the tittle. I cant see how his presents benefits real bands.

Take a look at the top ten compared to 15 years ago.

where has the guitar bands gone.

Its turned into a big pile of ****e...

Music is suited to the celtic brats these days

Memnoch · 03-10-2010 10:01PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Eh, if so called journalists and so called music promoters didn't shove this ****e down our throat in the first place we wouldn't have to listen to / read it!

Shoved it down your throat?

Right... okay.

gsxr1 · 03-10-2010 10:13PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Maybe they are ****?

Not being mean, but the majority of bands in Dublin, or Ireland for that matter, are ****. A couple of decent ones stand out, but none of them are very interesting or innovative, they all just tend to sound like that last big band whose names started with "The" that came out.

But they are not.

give our better bands (any genre) 15mins of fame on primetime sat night TV. Not picked by that feckin dose sharron Osborne and her work mates.

I cant help it. I think the top 5 people who pick who will be the next best things are arseholes. And those who follow them are worse.

Do knockinstockin next year. You wont believe the unsigned talent out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEKkkhJCjcM

Herb Powell · 03-10-2010 10:14PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

absaloulty not.

Down Loaders are.
X-factor winners have a shelf life of a 6 months if even.

Sarcasm?

Oranage2 · 03-10-2010 10:18PM

The majority of bands and singers you see in pubs are crap, they think its because they're not "commersial" but the truth is that they're just terrible

Is Simon Cowell the cancer of the music industry

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