Is Simon Cowell the cancer of the music industry

gsxr1

I see bands in town,

in festivals like Knockenstocken ,

and so on and so on. Up and coming people who have devoted there life to music .

I went to Carlos Santana last week . Setting a standard of top class musicianship . Every member of the band picked from the best of the best.

The band only 2/3 fills the O2.

yet if JLS play. full house. Bunch of ijets who have no idea.

Whats wrong.... Its driving me nuts

Superbus

What we need is more of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMkU-Qf_3N0

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gsxr1 wrote: »

I see bands in town,

Which one?

Guided By Voices

gsxr1 wrote: »

I see bands in town,

in festivals like Knockenstocken ,

and so on and so on. Up and coming people who have devoted there life to music .

I went to Carlos Santana last week . Setting a standard of top class musicianship . Every member of the band picked from the best of the best.

The band only 2/3 fills the O2.

yet if JLS play. full house. Bunch of ijets who have no idea.

Whats wrong.... Its driving me nuts

I believe the problem may subside if you take that steering wheel out of your pants.

MrStuffins

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at!

You're saying that good bands, in your opinion, play to small crowds. But Cowell's crews play to massive crowds?

I see your point, but shouldn't your thread be titled "Is Simon Cowell a business genius?"

And the answer would be yes!

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It's a buyers market, Cowell wouldn't be there if people didnt like whatever stuff he puts out
May not be to your taste but that's life

My name is URL

Simon Cowell is a fcuking genius.. I can't stand the X-Factor etc, but he sure does know how to milk the lack of taste that most people seem to have these days

gsxr1

Tucker Shy Azimuth wrote: »

Which one?

Most bands with the M CD banner over them. I work at them.

I have a list as long as my arm.

fruvai

People are idiots - Mystery solved

Herb Powell

the music industry is a cancer to itself

gsxr1

MrStuffins wrote: »

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at!

You're saying that good bands, in your opinion, play to small crowds. But Cowell's crews play to massive crowds?

I see your point, but shouldn't your thread be titled "Is Simon Cowell a business genius?"

And the answer would be yes!

but its not the the tittle. I cant see how his presents benefits real bands.

Take a look at the top ten compared to 15 years ago.

where has the guitar bands gone.

Its turned into a big pile of ****e...

Gunsfortoys

My name is URL wrote: »

Simon Cowell is a fcuking genius.. I can't stand the X-Factor etc, but he sure does know how to milk the lack of taste that most people seem to have these days

I agree. He is a very successful entrepreneur. I have a lot of respect for him but can't stand the music he dishes out, he has broke into one of the most difficult markets and very successfully.

As a music lover yes he has ruined the industry, noone seems to try anymore just a load of the same **** every year.

Scuid Mhór

blaming simon cowell for the contemporary music industry is incredibly stupid.

MrStuffins

gsxr1 wrote: »

but its not the the tittle. I cant see how his presents benefits real bands.

Take a look at the top ten compared to 15 years ago.

where has the guitar bands gone.

Its turned into a big pile of ****e...

this is just your opinion.

You like a particular style of music, others like other styles. It just so happens that the vast majority of people like manufactured pop music and buy it.

Cowell knows this and feeds it to them. The man is a genius.

Stop worrying about it and get on the train. You can't beat a good pop song. Haven't you heard Hot & Cold by Katy Perry? What a tune!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkaf9PdlNM

gsxr1

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

blaming simon cowell for the contemporary music industry is incredibly stupid.

thats gone a bit far.

I believe
Stock Aitken Waterman where just as bad.

I am not stupid. Please do not refer to me as such.;)

GLaDOS

MrStuffins wrote: »

tYou can't beat a good pop song.

Yes, you can.

PeterIanStaker

There's always gonna be good music and sh!te music. Cowell's brand will always sell to the masses and its nearly a fact of life.


But, ignore him as you would a charity mugger, put some AC/DC on your headphones, and rock the fuck out.

MrStuffins

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Yes, you can.

:rolleyes:

My point was, pop music can be great!

I used to be of the same mindset as the OP. But whats the point?

There are people who will deny the love of a great pop song just because of who sings it. They will reserve judgement until they know who the song is by.

Ridiculous behavious IMO!

A Primal Nut

Its the insane amount of publicity and airplay his "artists" get. Even if you hate this kind of music you will still hear the most popular songs many times a day just by walking into shops or other public places. Music DJ's play music that teenage girls want to listen to and nothing else. Presumably most radio listeners are teenage girls; the only possible explanation.

Its different in America; even mainstream DJs will play both modern and classic rock, for example as well as pop music. Would never happen here.

gsxr1

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

There's always gonna be good music and sh!te music. Cowell's brand will always sell to the masses and its nearly a fact of life.


But, ignore him as you would a charity mugger, put some AC/DC on your headphones, and rock the fuck out.

I get the feeling that pure talent like AC/DC would never have been able to get a break if Simon was in control back then.

Cheese sells more than music.

Gunsfortoys

I suppose the problem is will there be any great bands that come out ever again eg AC/DC etc? With all the music that is being forced down everyones throats there may not be anymore.

Herb Powell

MrStuffins wrote: »

You can't beat a good pop song.

ahem

granted Billy's a **** now, but this is still class

knird evol

gsxr1 you cannot claim one type of music is superior to another just because in your subjective taste you prefer it.
These things are personal and subjective.

The musical tastes of all people are equally valid.

Even the vapid, braindead troglodytes who listen to JLS.

MrStuffins

gsxr1 wrote: »

I get the feeling that pure talent like AC/DC would never have been able to get a break if Simon was in control back then.

Cheese sells more than music.

AC/DC are Pop Music though.

Pop Music is music which is popular, which is mainstream and which gets airplay.

They've sold over 160 million albums.

Back in Black is the biggest selling album by a band in the history of music.

Doesn't get much "pop" than that does it?

OPENROAD

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

There's always gonna be good music and sh!te music. Cowell's brand will always sell to the masses and its nearly a fact of life.


But, ignore him as you would a charity mugger, put some AC/DC on your headphones, and rock the fuck out.

Music is about personal taste is it not? Its what you like, and what makes you happy.

OPENROAD

knird evol wrote: »

gsxr1 you cannot claim one type of music is superior to another just because in your subjective taste you prefer it.
These things are personal and subjective.

The musical tastes of all people are equally valid.

Even the vapid, braindead troglodytes who listen to JLS.

Spot on

GLaDOS

MrStuffins wrote: »

AC/DC are Pop Music though.

Pop Music is music which is popular, which is mainstream and which gets airplay.

They've sold over 160 million albums.

Back in Black is the biggest selling album by a band in the history of music.

Doesn't get much "pop" than that does it?

The issue is more modern pop rather than pop in general

Snowie

Is Simon Cowell the cancer of the music industry

absaloulty not.

Down Loaders are.
X-factor winners have a shelf life of a 6 months if even.

MrStuffins

By the way, how would Simon Cowell be a cancer to the Music Industry?

Simon Cowell IS the music industry!

Which is why you have "indie" or Independant labels who try not to play within the rules of the "industry" and bring you lovely chunks of goodness

Scuid Mhór

gsxr1 wrote: »

thats gone a bit far.

I believe
Stock Aitken Waterman where just as bad.

I am not stupid. Please do not refer to me as such.;)

a stupid statement automatically makes the person who enforces it stupid?

yeah okay gsxr1.

gsxr1

knird evol wrote: »

gsxr1 you cannot claim one type of music is superior to another just because in your subjective taste you prefer it.
These things are personal and subjective.

The musical tastes of all people are equally valid.

Even the vapid, braindead troglodytes who listen to JLS.

why cant I?

Mary from Tesco has just been put through. A karaoke singer from Dublin. Probably has never picked up an instrument in her life.
Yet a band who practice 3 times a week, for years now, and do it for there love of the crowd and the music will never get a chance.
it BS to be honest.

Watching the likes of Danni Minogue chose who is going to be on Ray Darcy every day is the ****s. no harm like.

It stinks .. its rot.

whoever wins this, and the next 3 finishers will be the next big thing.



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sorry