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The God Delusion on More 4

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  • #122
    WesternNight
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    Seen that video before. I can't bring myself to watch it again. I don't want to have to buy another laptop :mad:


  • #123
    Galvasean
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    robindch wrote: »
    Is that the frightful and permanently surprised-looking Wendy Wright who kept banging on about a creaTOR?

    That's the one. That glazed over look in her eyes... *shudder*


  • #124
    alex73
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    SleepDoc wrote: »
    In what way is a well researched, thought provoking documentary presented by one of Britain's foremost intellectuals pathetic or ignorant?


    Its ignorant the say the humanity would be better off without religion. Many people have dedicated their lives to God doing good for humanity. Because there are some crackpot religious fanatics does not mean all good religious people believe the same.


  • #125
    WesternNight
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Its ignorant the say the humanity would be better off without religion. Many people have dedicated their lives to God doing good for humanity. Because there are some crackpot religious fanatics does not mean all good religious people believe the same.

    Lack of religion would in no way whatsoever prevent those same people from continuing to do good for people.


  • #126
    Sam Vimes
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Its ignorant the say the humanity would be better off without religion. Many people have dedicated their lives to God doing good for humanity. Because there are some crackpot religious fanatics does not mean all good religious people believe the same.

    People can't dedicate their lives to helping humanity without god?


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  • #127
    alex73
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    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    People can't dedicate their lives to helping humanity without god?


    I know of no atheists who have given their lives for free to a good cause. (not saying they don't exist, just I have heard of none) I know of many religous people who have dedicated their lives to god to help others.

    The reality is people with faith have a deeper commitment to humanity than those without it.


  • #128
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    I know of no atheists who have given their lives for free to a good cause. (not saying they don't exist, just I have heard of none) I know of many religous people who have dedicated their lives to god to help others.

    The reality is people with faith have a deeper commitment to humanity than those without it.
    facepalm_implied.jpg


  • #129
    eoin5
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    robindch wrote: »
    Is that the frightful and permanently surprised-looking Wendy Wright who kept banging on about a creaTOR?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFjoEgYOgRo


    I'm not going to watch it again since I can do without the concomitant increase in blood pressure, but isn't this the one that in which Dawkins weathers Wright's abominable ramblings for longer than any thinking human could, then says "I must confess to feeling slightly frustrated..."

    I got to the bit that was like this:

    Wright: Theres no evidence for macro-evolution

    Dawkins: Yes there is and heres why

    Wright: No

    Dawkins: Yes

    Wright: No times a million.

    Dawkins: Yes times infinity.

    Wright: No times infinity + 1

    ...

    :rolleyes:


  • #130
    alex73
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    MagicMarker wrote: »

    Retarded picture from magicmarker


    That is the point about atheists. You think all those not in your camp are retarded.


  • #131
    SleepDoc
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    alex73 wrote: »
    I know of no atheists who have given their lives for free to a good cause. (not saying they don't exist, just I have heard of none) I know of many religous people who have dedicated their lives to god to help others.

    The reality is people with faith have a deeper commitment to humanity than those without it.

    Ever heard of,

    http://www.msf.ie/?id=1

    No denomination. They do a bit of helping out here and there.


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  • #132
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    That is the point about atheists. You think all those not in your camp are retarded.
    Nice generalization there, but no, I just think your post was retarded.


  • #133
    drkpower
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    SleepDoc wrote: »
    Ever heard of,

    http://www.msf.ie/?id=1

    No denomination. They do a bit of helping out here and there.

    Or:
    http://www.redcross.org/
    United Nations Children's Fund
    Oxfam International
    International Peace Institute
    www.amnesty.org.uk

    But apart from them (and about a few hundred others), no, atheists never give their lives or time for free to a good cause. Now, where's that 'Implied Face Palm' picture - that would work perfectly here.....oh..


  • #134
    alex73
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    SleepDoc wrote: »
    Ever heard of,

    http://www.msf.ie/?id=1

    No denomination. They do a bit of helping out here and there.

    Lots of my class was worked for MSF, its non denomination for a reasons so it can work in all countries, All of the people I know that gave their time has some religious belief. (not saying there are no non believers there)


  • #135
    alex73
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    drkpower wrote: »
    Or:
    http://www.redcross.org/
    United Nations Children's Fund
    Oxfam International
    International Peace Institute
    www.amnesty.org.uk

    But apart from them (and about a few hundred others), no, atheists never give their lives or time for free to a good cause. Now, where's that 'Implied Face Palm' picture - that would work perfectly here.....oh..

    Who? give names. Which people dedicated their lives for free to humanity. Who is the mother Teresa of the atheist world?


  • #136
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Who? give names. Which people dedicated their lives for free to humanity. Who is the mother Teresa of the atheist world?
    Mother Teresa? lol I hope that's not the best you've got!


  • #137
    drkpower
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Who? give names. Which people dedicated their lives for free to humanity.

    Oh I see; this is a compliling lists of good people game. If you get more religous people it proves that religous are better than atheists....?:D
    alex73 wrote: »
    Who is the mother Teresa of the atheist world?

    Stalin?


  • #138
    alex73
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Mother Teresa? lol I hope that's not the best you've got!

    Dawkins says the world would be better without religion. So of the many who profess no faith or don't believe in god who has done as much as mother teresa (I use her as an example)

    You great at your smart remarks... but you lack any discussion.


  • #139
    Ush1
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    Missionary_Position_book_Mother_Teresa.jpg


  • #140
    Boxoffrogs
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Dawkins says the world would be better without religion. So of the many who profess no faith or don't believe in god who has done as much as mother teresa (I use her as an example)

    You great at your smart remarks... but you lack any discussion.

    A quote from the person in question:

    "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."

    There is ongoing debate about Mother Teresa's faith, so her works, noble or not (and that is certainly questionable) may not have been attributable to her faith.


  • #141
    alex73
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    diddledum wrote: »
    A quote from the person in question:

    "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."

    There is ongoing debate about Mother Teresa's faith, so her works, noble or not (and that is certainly questionable) may not have been attributable to her faith.

    Typical response from someone who knows nothing about her. (or her faith).

    Going back to my original question... Name 1 atheist who has given his/her life for free to a good cause.


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  • #142
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Dawkins says the world would be better without religion. So of the many who profess no faith or don't believe in god who has done as much as mother teresa (I use her as an example)

    You great at your smart remarks... but you lack any discussion.
    Before you use Mother Teresa as your pin up girl, why not find out a little more about her first?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60


  • #143
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Typical response from someone who knows nothing about her. (or her faith).

    Going back to my original question... Name 1 atheist who has given his/her life for free to a good cause.

    Did Mother Teresa give her life for free? That's news to me.


  • #144
    alex73
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Before you use Mother Teresa as your pin up girl, why not find out a little more about her first?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60

    Going back to my original question... Name 1 atheist who has given his/her life for free to a good cause.


  • #145
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Going back to my original question... Name 1 atheist who has given his/her life for free to a good cause.
    Name one christian who has done so?


  • #146
    alex73
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Did Mother Teresa give her life for free? That's news to me.

    She had no money and would not take money from anyone. She worked with the poorest. There was no financial gain in her work. She did it for God.

    Going back to my original question... Name 1 atheist who has given his/her life for free to a good cause.


  • #147
    alex73
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Name one christian who has done so?

    to Pick an example Jozef De Veuster.


  • #148
    Sam Vimes
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    alex73 wrote: »
    I know of no atheists who have given their lives for free to a good cause. (not saying they don't exist, just I have heard of none) I know of many religous people who have dedicated their lives to god to help others.

    The reality is people with faith have a deeper commitment to humanity than those without it.

    Sorry mate but that's a load of me arse as has been pointed out by others. There is no connection in believing in a magic man in the sky (or outside the universe or wherever science has pushed him back to) and caring about people

    Maybe you never noticed non-religious people doing it because they don't do it in the name of non-religion.........?


  • #149
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    to Pick an example Jozef De Veuster.
    Interesting, I can't see where he says he gave his life for free though? Are you saying he received no money whatsoever in all his time as a priest?

    Doesn't say a lot for the catholic church now does it? In fact that's pretty inhumane if you ask me.


  • #150
    alex73
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    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    Sorry mate but that's a load of me arse as has been pointed out by others. there is no connection in believing in a magic man in the sky (or outside the universe or wherever science has pushed him back to) and caring about people


    Well I beleive (and so do millions of others) that god calls people to give their lives to him by helping others.

    So if dawkins advocates that the world would be better off without religion then name a person (1 person ) who has dedicated their life totally to humanity.


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  • #151
    MagicMarker
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    alex73 wrote: »
    Well I beleive (and so do millions of others) that god calls people to give their lives to him by helping others.

    So if dawkins advocates that the world would be better off without religion then name a person (1 person ) who has dedicated their life totally to humanity.
    Are we dropping the ''free'' pre-requisite now?


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