N3-M50 interchange

Irish and Proud · 28-05-2010 12:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

But, all the bridges are shown in grey, there appears to be no bridge there.

...and there's a stop line on the N3 outbound - an underpass would be nice, but there's no indication of any such thing as per the drawing.

Regards!

Stark · 28-05-2010 1:20pm

BluntGuy wrote: »

Really not the prettiest junction in the world is it?

I think it will look quite impressive when it's cleaned up actually.

28-05-2010 2:00pm

Stark wrote: »

I think it will look quite impressive when it's cleaned up actually.

It's getting close to this!..

Stark · 28-05-2010 2:17pm

Pfft, that one doesn't have a gym.

kwinabeeste · 06-07-2010 4:10pm

Any idea of when the interchange will open?

I went into Blanchardstown Centre today from M50 northbound. Was torture getting off the M50. Was bad going into town along the N3 where the construction is happening.

Gaspode · 07-07-2010 11:47am

Anyone notice a big sign indicating the way to 'New River Road'?
There is no such road, it's simply River Road and there's sure as hell nothing new about it!
There is a New Dunsink Lane alright mind you, that's there since the M50 was first built.

BostonB · 07-07-2010 11:54am

They should have made two interchanges. One for the M50 and another bringing all the small local roads together. Doing it all in one junction is a nightmare. Local traffic gets tangled in the traffic moving between the major roads N3/M50

ciaran75 · 07-07-2010 2:28pm

kwinabeeste wrote: »

Any idea of when the interchange will open?
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from the main m50 upgrade thread n3 city bound traffic will be diverted onto the new slip road on tueday 13th july

about 8 weeks later m50 southbound will also be diverted over new bridges

think october for full completion

kwinabeeste · 07-07-2010 3:17pm

ciaran75 wrote: »

from the main m50 upgrade thread n3 city bound traffic will be diverted onto the new slip road on tueday 13th july

about 8 weeks later m50 southbound will also be diverted over new bridges

think october for full completion

Cool - so any northbound traffic on M50 to N3 will have a longer wait? :mad:

rolion · 23-07-2010 12:33am

Bad design...

1. Coming from N3 -> M50 -> city ,you'll have a traffic light just after driving down the bridge,bang you have to drive slowly as you'll not see the traffic stopped at lights...stopping for traffic from left / right ,all peak traffic will be reaching in length beyond M50 actual junction...

2. Coming from city -> M50 -> N3,you'll have 3 traffic lights sets: at Auburn Avenue,then current roundabout over M50 ,then Blanch junction....a really mess at peak times,in the evening ! I mean,traffic joining from M50 north ,from City and for Blanch village,all combined on a single road ! ? ?

ThisRegard · 23-07-2010 8:56am

Would you not at least wait till the junction is completed before slating it ?

daymobrew · 23-07-2010 11:34am

ThisRegard wrote: »

Would you not at least wait till the junction is completed before slating it ?

+1

I remember someone (probably from NRA) saying that upgrading the M50 while keeping it open was "like doing open heart surgery on someone while they were running a marathon".

The Dark Knight · 23-07-2010 1:32pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

Would you not at least wait till the junction is completed before slating it ?

No... I agree with "rolion".
I think the design is extreamly poor, and it is well worth talking about.
One of the most popular traffic flows (N3 Out) through this roundabout has not been improved one bit.

This only issues is that not enough people protested against the design when it was proposed.

BostonB · 23-07-2010 2:29pm

They need another flyover to take traffic exiting from Blanchardstown/The Bell direction over across the N3, and on to the N3 towards town. Then they could remove the lights and that junction completely. Theres no room for a flyover though.

Maybe they'll close that exit from Blanch completely.

jack presley · 23-07-2010 4:10pm

BostonB wrote: »

They need another flyover to take traffic exiting from Blanchardstown/The Bell direction over across the N3, and on to the N3 towards town. Then they could remove the lights and that junction completely. Theres no room for a flyover though.
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And the money for that will come from where exactly?

BostonB · 23-07-2010 4:27pm

jack presley wrote: »

And the money for that will come from where exactly?

I can only rant about one subject at a time.

rolion · 23-07-2010 4:54pm

No offence...but traffic for M50 South and North has been major,big time improved with the current design !

BUT...the major traffic flow is (Navan) M3 / N3 -> M50 -> City Center and not M50s ! At least that's the way i see it since now 10 years ago !
So rather than improving this flow,they are moving the bottlenecks from here,there...

As far as i rememebr (when Anglos had the moneys) there supposed to be two bridges :

-one for Auburn Avenue / Little Chef bridge or tunnel for allowing Blanch -> City to flow directly,under it,with no stops at all,joining main road being somewhere beside Petrol station...
-other for Blanch Village -> N3/M50/City for local traffic going in to any directions.

But,time will talk of course...as today,at 3pm the traffic was queuing on the new built bridge over train / M50 already... don't get me started talking on roundabouts with traffic lights !

Regards.

jack presley · 23-07-2010 5:36pm

rolion wrote: »

No offence...but traffic for M50 South and North has been major,big time improved with the current design !

BUT...the major traffic flow is (Navan) M3 / N3 -> M50 -> City Center and not M50s ! At least that's the way i see it since now 10 years ago !
So rather than improving this flow,they are moving the bottlenecks from here,there...

As far as i rememebr (when Anglos had the moneys) there supposed to be two bridges :

-one for Auburn Avenue / Little Chef bridge or tunnel for allowing Blanch -> City to flow directly,under it,with no stops at all,joining main road being somewhere beside Petrol station...
-other for Blanch Village -> N3/M50/City for local traffic going in to any directions.

But,time will talk of course...as today,at 3pm the traffic was queuing on the new built bridge over train / M50 already... don't get me started talking on roundabouts with traffic lights !

Regards.

Summer time = less traffic.

Every route in the city probably looks great these days. Let's wait until the dark wet days in November before we make judgement.

rolion · 23-07-2010 7:00pm

Jack,i cannot more fully agree with you...
Is not a bad design,is just 'bad time of the year' to talk about it...

daymobrew · 24-07-2010 8:32am

rolion wrote: »

But,time will talk of course...as today,at 3pm the traffic was queuing on the new built bridge over train / M50 already... don't get me started talking on roundabouts with traffic lights !

The lights on the roundabout will be removed when the junction is finished.

jack presley · 24-07-2010 9:49am

daymobrew wrote: »

The lights on the roundabout will be removed when the junction is finished.

How can they? Traffic heading from the airport along the M50 that wants to get to Blanchardstown village will still have to come up the slip and go around the roundabout and 'clash' with outbound traffic on the N3so lights will surely still be needed there.

And likewise at the next section of the junction, traffic coming from the toll that wants to head into town will meet with the outbound traffic when it comes up the slip as well.

Godge · 24-07-2010 11:06pm

jack presley wrote: »

How can they? Traffic heading from the airport along the M50 that wants to get to Blanchardstown village will still have to come up the slip and go around the roundabout and 'clash' with outbound traffic on the N3so lights will surely still be needed there.

And likewise at the next section of the junction, traffic coming from the toll that wants to head into town will meet with the outbound traffic when it comes up the slip as well.

correct. And what about traffic coming from Blanchardstown village that wants to go M50 southbound and will have to take the new dunsink slip road and double back at the Auburn road junction. I just hope the traffic counters have done their job and that no movement or change will be too badly affected. Let us wait and see.

daymobrew · 25-07-2010 11:10am

jack presley wrote: »

How can they? Traffic heading from the airport along the M50 that wants to get to Blanchardstown village will still have to come up the slip and go around the roundabout and 'clash' with outbound traffic on the N3so lights will surely still be needed there.

And likewise at the next section of the junction, traffic coming from the toll that wants to head into town will meet with the outbound traffic when it comes up the slip as well.

Each of these routes will have separate roads/lanes, just like at N4/M50, though, now that I look at the junction plans, I see potential issues at some points where lanes merge.

jack presley · 25-07-2010 12:40pm

daymobrew wrote: »

Each of these routes will have separate roads/lanes, just like at N4/M50, though, now that I look at the junction plans, I see potential issues at some points where lanes merge.

This junction's described as 'partial free flow' so there were always going to be traffic lights on it when it's completed.

As I said above, when routes meet that are heading in opposite directions, in the absense of a flyover there has to be traffic lights!

bigar · 26-07-2010 5:36pm

What a mess the N3 is now at Dunsink Lane inward. You have four lanes at the traffic lights. When it turns green it looks like something from wacky races with the cars changing lanes all over the place just to get ahead.

Moving along the road then, it is also completely unclear where the lanes are ending/merging and where the crap bus lane actually starts. I can only hope this is a temporary situation.

Godge · 27-07-2010 11:17pm

M50 northbound off-ramp closed at night this week - probably more changes when this is completed.

Heroditas · 28-07-2010 8:42am

bigar wrote: »

What a mess the N3 is now at Dunsink Lane inward. You have four lanes at the traffic lights. When it turns green it looks like something from wacky races with the cars changing lanes all over the place just to get ahead.

Moving along the road then, it is also completely unclear where the lanes are ending/merging and where the crap bus lane actually starts. I can only hope this is a temporary situation.

Amen to that. Imagine what it's going to be like when September comes around again and the roads are jammed with traffic.

4 lanes -> 3 lanes -> 2 lanes -> 1 lane all in less than 1km. Madness

jack presley · 28-07-2010 5:57pm

bigar wrote: »

What a mess the N3 is now at Dunsink Lane inward. You have four lanes at the traffic lights. When it turns green it looks like something from wacky races with the cars changing lanes all over the place just to get ahead.

Moving along the road then, it is also completely unclear where the lanes are ending/merging and where the crap bus lane actually starts. I can only hope this is a temporary situation.

Because of the resurfacing in the M50 roundabout this evening the Auburn Avenue/Dunsink Lane junction outbound was chaos. I know nobody pays any attention to them but they're going to have to put in a yellow box or something because the amount of cars (from all 3 sides trying to go out the N3) blocking the junction when they got the green light even though there was no where to go the far side.

Mimikyu · 29-07-2010 3:16am

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Stark · 29-07-2010 9:42am

Seems you can remove the roundabout but not the tards.

Heroditas · 29-07-2010 11:03am

bigar wrote: »

Moving along the road then, it is also completely unclear where the lanes are ending/merging and where the crap bus lane actually starts. I can only hope this is a temporary situation.

I was on this stretch again this morning.
I particularly love the way the leftmost lane just disappears and becomes a bus lane/lane leading up to the train station without any warning. :rolleyes:

That'll be fun on a wet Tuesday November morning.

The markings on this stretch need to be finalized and sorted out ASAP.

Mimikyu · 30-07-2010 7:46pm

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Godge · 30-07-2010 10:31pm

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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Passed by about 11.30 and they appeared to be resurfacing the roundabout. Some scraping of the top level and some new surface as well. Wasn't there today so couldn't confirm in daylight.

Absurdum · 31-07-2010 3:38pm

the roundabout was smooth as a really smooth thing this morning!

cargo · 04-08-2010 12:06pm

Any more updates on this one or are they off on the 2 week holiday?

Mimikyu · 05-08-2010 10:31am

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MrDerp · 06-08-2010 1:06pm

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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Unlikely to be any for a while. I'm sure the M50 guy said that the roundabout is to be 2-lane when all is done. Can't seem them marking this until towards the end of the junction work.

Absurdum · 07-08-2010 2:38am

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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nope, just a few random temporary cats eyes things....

Also, the main N3 between the Blanch Village junction and the shopping centre was being re-surfaced tonight.

daymobrew · 08-08-2010 1:27pm

Absurdum wrote: »

nope, just a few random temporary cats eyes things....

For the most part I found these easy enough to follow.

jack presley · 08-08-2010 3:02pm

daymobrew wrote: »

For the most part I found these easy enough to follow.

So have I but unfortunately there are plenty who haven't and end up pulling across me at the last minute.

Mimikyu · 08-08-2010 5:36pm

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Absurdum · 08-08-2010 10:29pm

in fairness, if you aren't familiar with the layout it can be confusing

there are still random broken white lines and scatterings of these yellow cats eyes around the place, I can see how it leads to confusion

The junction is coming along well by the looks of things, not long left now til it's fully open, I'd imagine.

Random · 08-08-2010 10:31pm

i was going to complain again about the traffic lights when coming from travellodge straight across to auburn ave. they only let about 4 cars through at peak times, assuming the first car is paying attention.

they seem to have had the timings increased slightly yesterday when i checked it out though, is this the case?

fitzgese · 15-08-2010 3:50pm

Not really familiar with this interchange, either in it's current state or the way it used to be. Looking to get to the Total Fitness gym from M50 Southbound. So which lane do I come up the sliproad in? Right? Then I go take the Blanch exit from the roundabout, and it's the next right from there? Or has this been changed during the upgrade? Are there traffic lights/lane changes etc. I should look out for?

Also anyone know what's the story with the new exit from Connolly Hospital? Is this opening soon?

BostonB · 15-08-2010 4:02pm

Looks like the new exit to connolly is open or almost open.

From what I could see the only way into Connolly or Total fitness, from the M50 Is to go up to the Blanch center, over the bridge then back down the other side. If it were me I'd probably go up to the 2nd bridge as the lights on the first one take forever.

That said it seems to change everytime I pass through it, so who knows.

fitzgese · 15-08-2010 5:46pm

Thanks, will generally be approaching this area travelling towards the city on the N3, so shouldn't be so much of it problem then, but it's quite a detour when approaching from M50 southbound. Can't make out what the story for access to Total Fitness and Connolly from the M50 will be from the plans for the interchange when finished, but I guess so few cars will want to do this it doesn't justify another set of traffic lights on the N3 outbound.

BostonB · 15-08-2010 6:27pm

I'd assume the idea is to have traffic comming off the M50 not have any obstacles like a set of lights.

rameire · 15-08-2010 9:07pm

passed the junction while on the m50 today heading northbound.
the new slip road heading off the m50 was lined and painted.

mackerski · 16-08-2010 12:57am

BostonB wrote: »

From what I could see the only way into Connolly or Total fitness, from the M50 Is to go up to the Blanch center, over the bridge then back down the other side. If it were me I'd probably go up to the 2nd bridge as the lights on the first one take forever.

Not quite - you can turn around at Snugborough Road instead. And if you want to access the hospital, you'll have to, as access to it is still only from the Snugborough Road or from Blanchardstown Village via Mill Road.

BostonB · 16-08-2010 1:12am

Thats what I meant, the first bridge over the N3 is the Snugborough Road. Thats the one with the lights that take ages. The 2nd bridge has no lights.

N3-M50 interchange

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