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    #32
    A Neurotic
    Registered Users Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Going out, dancing, having a few drinks, and letting off some steam is fun. Staying in, having a bit of banter, playing games, and having a few drinks is fun.

    We have a ridiculous habit of going way overboard in this country, myself included. Last night I had the pleasure of observing a few females (none of whom I know particularly well, all being of the decidedly "silly" variety) having a naggin or so of vodka each before going out on the town. One of them lay down on the floor for no reason, spilled her drink all over herself and got sticky floor crap in her hair. Basically spent an hour dolling herself up and looked like a gutter skank when it was time to go. Not that she noticed. One burst into tears on the way to the bus for no apparent reason, forcing the others to throng upon her in a 10-minute wave of drunken false sympathy. One fell quite badly while walking down the bus towards the back seat, couldn't get up without assistance and nearly fell asleep on the trip in. Two got off at the entirely wrong stop and ran off, forcing a relatively sober friend to get off at the next stop and go look for them.

    A few weeks ago, before going out, I had a bottle of wine and a few cans of cider in my apartment on an empty stomach. I remember nothing of the night from 10 o clock onwards, but I'm told that I went missing in my apartment block for quite a while, was found, got a bus with two of my friends, jumped off bus after 5 minutes to get sick outside Dominos, said that I hated myself repeatedly, was dragged into a taxi, and placed in a bed by those stellar friends of mine.
    I woke up at 6am, fully dressed on my bed, with a glass of water on my table and a bin by my bed. I had absolutely no recollection of any of the night's events. I checked my phone and saw a few missed calls and increasingly frantic "WHERE ARE YOU?" texts. It is the worst feeling in the world.

    Where the f*ck is the fun in that? Why do we do it to ourselves so regularly?


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    #33
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Fad wrote: »
    They are terrifying. I've had four or five and I have no idea what happened (Twice I wandered off so I have no idea what I did :confused:).

    This is not a ZOMG I was so wasted story......this is just pointing out that blacking out is not fun.

    I've blacked out way more than is safe, but one episode before Christmas was particularly bad. I won't go into details, but suffice to say that me and my brother don't remember a thing of what happened about five minutes after we got into the night club. I can laugh at the story, but when I really think about it, I could have done anything that night and I wouldn't have had a clue.

    It hasn't happened to that extent since then, or before that, but it's been close. Forgetting stuff can be funny, but when somebody has to tell you exactly what you did/where you went, etc., that's when it's scary and not so funny.


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    #34
    almostnever
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    I don't drink. Mostly because I know I could easily become addicted/reliant on it...
    And also because of some pretty bad experiences with my friends, where it was very lucky that I was sober,let me tell you. I don't judge people who drink, I really don't care whether someone does or doesn't, but for myself, I hope I never do.

    I genuinely don't like the taste of anything I've tried,btw. And I have tried most things tbh.

    But scary experiences have put me personally off for life because I know I wouldn't be able to handle it. And I know from experience,my friends can't either.

    (If this is worded weirdly or whatever,it's just because I am EXHAUSTED.)


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    #35
    Aoibheann
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    As a fair few of you know, I don't drink. The reasons for this have varied over the years.

    I used to be one of *those* teenagers, pretty much the complete antithesis of a rebellious child in every way. I had very strong moral stances and believe me, I wasn't afraid to defend them to the ground - I was completely anti-drinking for one. But thinking back on it, I only saw things in black and white at the time, and alcohol was definitely one of the "dark" things to me. Then again, I had seen enough people completely mess themselves up at that point that my attitude towards alcohol made sense, at least to me.

    Since then, my attitude has changed a lot. I'm no longer anti-drinking, it just happens to be something I have zero interest in, tasting the odd drink aside. I've no problem whatsoever with other people drinking (so long as they're not causing me any harm obviously), and I find it quite annoying that some people take issue with my not drinking. I don't feel I should have to defend my not-drinking to them when they expect me to accept their drinking (which I do). I respect the choices of other people, they can at least do the same in return.


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    #36
    TheCardHolder
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    I have no drinking problem, I drink, I pass out. What's the problem?

    Terrible jokes adside, I enjoy a drink now and again. I can go out and have a good time without drinking but often I like to have a few drinks to enhance that. I rarily say I'm getting absouletely locked tonight and usually just have a few drinks, stop when I'm feeling tipsy. This coming thursday is an exception as it's the end of my exams and no better way to end 2 weeks of stress with a good old fashioned session.


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    #37
    D4RK ONION
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    Aoibheann wrote: »
    Since then, my attitude has changed a lot. I'm no longer anti-drinking, it just happens to be something I have zero interest in, tasting the odd drink aside. I've no problem whatsoever with other people drinking (so long as they're not causing me any harm obviously), and I find it quite annoying that some people take issue with my not drinking. I don't feel I should have to defend my not-drinking to them when they expect me to accept their drinking (which I do). I respect the choices of other people, they can at least do the same in return.

    This is personally the most annoying thing. The amount of times I've been told I HAVE to go out and get bladdered is stupid. That's more annoying that anything else :mad:


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    #38
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    I drink quite a lot, both in terms of volume and regularity. But, I don't drink because I have to, or because I feel the need to; I drink because I love it. Simple as that, really. I've had many, many of the best nights of my life when I was relatively drunk, and I don't think they would have been the same had I been sober. Of course, that's just me: I'm sure others can have great nights when they're sober. I could type a lot more on this, but I just can't be arsed, really.


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    #39
    Ginja Ninja
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    i'm kind of the opposite,I don't drink that often at all and not much when I do.

    I'm actually a bit odd in a way,I've had a lot of good nights sober,but the BEST times I've had i was sober for,i guess for me you have better chance of a good night with drink,but there's so much more enjoyment of it when I'm sober


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    #40
    Aoibheann
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    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    This is personally the most annoying thing. The amount of times I've been told I HAVE to go out and get bladdered is stupid. That's more annoying that anything else :mad:

    No, I'm sorry, you HAVE to go out and get bladdered I know, it's quite irritating. I'm used to it though, people have tried and failed to force their religious beliefs on me and made me lose respect for them because of it - and this is no different! Some people don't get it though, so you have to be a bit patient. I've found a lot more people recently that just find it interesting/don't pass any remark at all as opposed to patronising me, it's amazing how attitudes seem to be starting to change for the better in that way.


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    #41
    cork*girl
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    I do drink, but I dont get the whole thing of trying to make people who dont drink - drink. its their choice! Leave them alone!!!!! anyway.. I like to drink and to go out have a good time.. being drunk can also be fun but once it doesnt cross the line. I have never blacked out and hope I never do!! I hate those who go out with a plan on being the most drunk at the pub/club or to have everyone talking about how drunk you were at the weekend, in school on Monday. these people bother me so much and I know sooo many of them!!

    as about the "I hate the taste" thing.. its like mushrooms, you hate them when you are younger but when you grow up (!) they are nice! thats what I found anyway :p


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    #42
    Arcade Panda
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    I try, as much as humanly possible, to emulate this guy when drinking

    05.jpg

    I kid, I kid....
    I like drink, but I'm careful most of the time (not saying I don't have horror stories). On both sides of my family there are alcoholics so it's pretty much in my genes. My dad rarely drinks and when I questioned him why once his answer was "because I love it too much". So yeah, I take it easy.


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    #43
    DancingQueen:)
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    I don't drink much at all. I'm busy on Saturday and Sunday mornings so I can't be waking up late with a hangover so i can't have too much then i'm in school Monday to Friday so no time to drink then either. I have a good time without it but don't have anything against so it'll probably change in the next few months when i finish school.


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    #44
    jumpguy
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    I don't really drink that much tbh. Pretty much all of my friends drink regularly though, but thankfully a good share of them have grown up from the "going-out-to-get-absolutely-locked". Also, alot of my friends are fairly sound and don't force me to drink, or look down on me for not drinking (but they're dickhead scumbags who do do that, but I don't give a **** tbh.)

    I have no problem with other reasons drinking at all, the reasons I don't drink alot myself are quite simple. First of all, and probably the most embarrassing one being a guy, but I ****ing hate the taste of most drinks. I mean, one or two are just about bareable, but some are on par with tasting like piss. Whenever I get the opportunity to drink, I don't drink that much mainly due to this restricting factor, and it kinda makes me weary anyway.

    The second reason is that I'm far too panicky when trying to get into pubs. Some of my friends are now getting into pubs and getting served...I'm young looking, not too bad like, I LOOK 16. Not 18. That's the problem. Although I can get in some places, I have to get someone else to get me drink, then I don't end up staying for long because I'm afraid someone will throw me out (or worse, gaurds close up the place or something and I get asked for ID, don't have it, they send me home to my parents, who'd kill me).

    The third reason is my parents would kill me and I'd absolutely hate to get caught. That one is easy really.

    The fourth reason is that I pretty much despise Ireland's ravaging drink problem, and people's reliance on alcohol to have fun. It's closing the mind of young people. If I was asked "d'you want to go surfing, mountain biking, or knacker drinking?" By God, knacker drinking would be the last thing on my mind.


    There's a good few more reasons, which I might discuss later, but they're the main ones really. When I'm 18, many of those reasons won't matter, and yeah, I probably will drink a very small bit, socialising and whatnot. I have nothing like that against it.

    An advantage I've found is that it's kinda socially stunted some of my friends. For example, many of them are afraid to dance or talk to a woman unless they're drunk, but I had to do it first the hard, sober way first and am now pretty used to it, and can enjoy it sober. I think I'm far less socially dependent on alcohol than some other people.


    EDIT: Jesus! That was long! Sorry :o


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    #45
    Halla Basin
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    My background blood alcohol level is below average. I need three standard drinks to become sober. Otherwise I never ever take any risks and drive way too slowly.


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    #46
    Jay P
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    Halla Basin wrote: »
    My background blood alcohol level is below average. I need three standard drinks to become sober. Otherwise I never ever take any risks and drive way too slowly.

    That's one of the most confusing posts I've ever read...


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    #47
    lou91
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    Never drank that much before college, still below average now. One great reason to drink - Being sobre in clubs is not fun. I can't think of much worse tbh. I envy the people who can have a great night in a club completely sobre, but doesn't work for me. Possibly because I'm not a fan of clubs in general, but still.

    Having gaping holes in your memory is worrying and not at all fun. Much better than getting sick on yourself though. That really is nasty.

    Hmm, I would have also described myself as having an addictive personality, but it just doesn't seem to be happening with alcohol. Probably because of the side effects, cost and aforementioned vomiting on self.

    One thing that majorly annoys me-
    "Oh my god, best night EVER! Can't remember a thing!"

    THEN WHAT'S THE FCUKING POINT???


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    #48
    Pygmalion
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    Jay P wrote: »
    That's one of the most confusing posts I've ever read...

    I read the first few words and was like "Is that some kind of medical condition?", then I realised it was a weak joke


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    #49
    Halla Basin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 316 ✭✭Halla Basin


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    I read the first few words and was like "Is that some kind of medical condition?", then I realised it was a weak joke

    Where do you get off tassidly tossing aside someone's genuine attempt to introduce a little laughter into the world? I can understand if you didn't think it was funny for some reason, but if that's the case, then just force back the laugh to yourself and try to maintain someone's else's feelings.


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    #50
    jumpguy
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    Halla Basin wrote: »
    Where do you get off tassidly tossing aside someone's genuine attempt to introduce a little laughter into the world? I can understand if you didn't think it was funny for some reason, but if that's the case, then just force back the laugh to yourself and try to maintain someone's else's feelings.
    I thought it was mildly amusing. :pac:


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    #51
    D4RK ONION
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    MOVING ON has anyone tried non-alcoholic beers? What's the consensus?


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    #52
    Jay P
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    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    MOVING ON has anyone tried non-alcoholic beers? What's the consensus?

    Bit pointless really in fairness. If you're not drinking alcohol, why not have something a bit nicer?
    I've had non-alcoholic Erdinger, and it's pretty nice, not as good as regular Erdinger though. Not because it's non-alcoholic but because the regular Erdinger genuinely tastes nicer.


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    #53
    Pygmalion
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    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    MOVING ON has anyone tried non-alcoholic beers? What's the consensus?

    People drink beer for a reason other than it's alcoholic content?
    But it tastes awful! I don't even drink alcoholic beer.


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    #54
    jumpguy
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    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    MOVING ON has anyone tried non-alcoholic beers? What's the consensus?
    Yeah I have actually, my brother gives them to me. All the absolutely horrid taste, but no drunkeness. Worse than alcoholic drinks then...


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    #55
    Fad
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    Pygmalion wrote: »
    People drink beer for a reason other than it's alcoholic content?
    But it tastes awful! I don't even drink alcoholic beer.

    I actually like the taste of some beers (Bavaria/Fosters/some nice german ones etc)

    Miller tastes like vomit :(


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    #56
    Ginja Ninja
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    most non-alchoholic beers are too artificial tasting.I'm not a beer man,but I genuinely can't stomach non-alchoholic beers.

    Although,I prefer an Ice cold pint of pear bulmers/kopperburg over anything else.Sweet tooth FTW

    as an aside there is a UCD beers tomorrow for anyone in the college who hasn't checked the forum


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    #57
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Fad wrote: »
    Miller tastes like vomit :(

    I don't understand Miller. Loads of people drink it, and it's one of the few beers I nearly refuse to drink. Along with Heineken. That's just plain EW.

    I actually really like beer, though the hangovers tend to be a whole lot worse than any nights on rum or vodka.


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    #58
    Fad
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    Jay P wrote: »
    I don't understand Miller. Loads of people drink it, and it's one of the few beers I nearly refuse to drink. Along with Heineken. That's just plain EW.

    I like Corrs Light, I tend to drink it (I'd drink Fosters all the time if I could but people dont seem to like it....) and for some reason I have this brainfart that tells me whenever I cant get a pint of corrs, get a miller.

    *shudder*


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    #59
    Pygmalion
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    Jay P wrote: »
    I don't understand Miller. Loads of people drink it, and it's one of the few beers I nearly refuse to drink. Along with Heineken. That's just plain EW.

    I actually really like beer, though the hangovers tend to be a whole lot worse than any nights on rum or vodka.

    It's the non-alcohol ingredients that can really make or break a hangover tbh, a lot of people I know can be grand the next day if they're on spirits (except for a slight headache), whereas people drinking beers/cider/wine seem to get them awful bad.


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    #60
    Jay P
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    Fad wrote: »
    I like Corrs Light, I tend to drink it (I'd drink Fosters all the time if I could but people dont seem to like it....) and for some reason I have this brainfart that tells me when I cant get a pint of corrs, get a miller.

    *shudder*

    o_O Fosters is amazing. It goes down so easy. And it's criminally cheap compared to everything else. €3 a pint, hello!

    Also someone said something about Bulmers - Easily the most overrated drink ever. It's disgusting, expensive and the hangovers are something to behold.


    Another thing actually. Irish people seem to think that getting hammered is the only way to properly enjoy a gig. I have first hand experience of sober gigs and they were incredible. The two that stick out in my head are AC/DC, when I met up with D4RK ONION and his friends and we had an unreal time. Not a drop passed my lips that day, and it was one of the best gigs ever. Second example, Oxegen. I was on antibiotics all weekend after getting an unreal throat infection on Thursday night. It was one of the greatest weekends of my life and I remember almost everything.

    To the people who "need" to be locked at gigs, I say Fúck off.


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    #61
    Fad
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    Pygmalion wrote: »
    It's the non-alcohol ingredients that can really make or break a hangover tbh, a lot of people I know can be grand the next day if they're on spirits (except for a slight headache), whereas people drinking beers/cider/wine seem to get them awful bad.


    Secondary products of fermentation are what give the bad hangovers, which is why buying the more expensive stuff is sometimes a much better idea.


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