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The Alcohol Thread

  • 19-01-2010 2:45am
    #1
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭


    So there's a big argument in the feedback forum about alcohol, so that's what made me get up and start this thread, though it's actually been in my head for quite a while to do this.

    I was just wondering what peoples' attitudes here are to drink? Even if you're underage and have never even had a drop of wine with your extra-special birthday dinner.

    In the last few days I've been reconsidering my own attitude to drink, mainly after Saturday night, from which I remember scarily little. I don't like the fact that lately I've had to drink to have a good time, and it's the same deal with many Irish people, and that is not an unjust generalization.
    That said, I do enjoy drinking as I more often than not have lots of fun. Just lately, it's scared me a bit.

    So everybody, thoughts?

    Oh, and I don't want to put up a poll because this isn't an interrogation, it's just a pleasent discussion.

    So crack open a few cans and relax!
    <_<


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Comments

  • #2
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    I do not and have never tried alcohol.

    Let me give you a few examples of why. I once played a quick game of Guitar Hero 2 at a friends house. I have since spent the best part of a few thousand hours playing the genre.

    I once bought a game called street fighter 4 to have a bit of fun. I have now racked up 250 hours of in game play and rank 7th in Ireland.

    I once joined a site called boards.ie to +1 a forum for An Fhile. I'm now a mod of said site and spend several hours a day on it.

    I have what some might call an addictive personality. I get addicted to things uncontrollably very easily, but I'm very good at never doing things. Hence my incredible ability to hold a grudge. That's why I don't drink. I've no problems with other people drinking as long as it doesn't affect my night, but for my own safety I don't do it myself.


  • #3
    TEMPLAR KNIGHT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    I don't drink at all and im 19 but thank god im am one of the very few that can go out have a laugh without it, I dont mind drink ( it just isnt for me, not at the moment anyway haha) or people that drink for that matter ( unless they start getting violent because of the drink, then i hate them haha)....also cant understand people that get so drunk there just thrown down on the ground not able to move but i get a laugh off them so its all good haha


  • #4
    phlegms
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    I love the Sauce I do.


  • #5
    Fad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    I drink, but I dont drink often, and I dont find myself enjoying it as much anymore.

    I dont drink to get locked very often. Some times its fun, but generally it doesnt go well.

    Very consistent history of alcoholism on my dad's side of the family, just something I'm wary of.


  • #6
    ToniTuddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    My attitude to drink has also changed alot in recent times.
    I've spent ten years wasting alot of my hard earned cash on booze.
    Fair enough there were many happy times out of it, but a hell of alot more just plain crappy boring nights!
    More concerned with passing college and getting a mighty job that pays me LOADS of money. :D:D:D

    Though saying all that, every few weeks I will have a mini session with college mates if the notion takes me.


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  • #7
    phlegms
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    I have never understood the "don't drink wont drink" attitude. Not a personal attack on any member here who follow that creed in their approach to alcohol, but from my point of view it seems far too rigid. It seems to pigeonhole alcohol as a pure drug rather than something that one can genuinely enjoy the flavour of. I often go out and drink an amount that may be considered excessive, but I can also genuinely enjoy a glass of wine/beer with my dinner because I like the taste and have no more than a glass. If you haven't the maturity to see alcohol as something other than a "drug" to get drunk with then you are probably right not to drink in the first place..


  • #8
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    phlegms wrote: »
    I have never understood the "don't drink wont drink" attitude. Not a personal attack on any member here who follow that creed in their approach to alcohol, but from my point of view it seems far too rigid. It seems to pigeonhole alcohol as a pure drug rather than something that one can genuinely enjoy the flavour of. I often go out and drink an amount that may be considered excessive, but I can also genuinely enjoy a glass of wine/beer with my dinner because I like the taste and have no more than a glass. If you haven't the maturity to see alcohol as something other than a "drug" to get drunk with then you are probably right not to drink in the first place..

    But then some of us (and not naming any names here :rolleyes:) understand that they don't have the ability to do something in moderation, and therefore have the maturity to not touch the stuff ;)


  • #9
    phlegms
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    But then some of us (and not naming any names here :rolleyes:) understand that they don't have the ability to do something in moderation, and therefore have the maturity to not touch the stuff ;)

    Wasn't pointing fingers there Dark. I have had multiple alcoholics on both sides of my family and I in no way show any signs of addiction or dependence. But anyway, I would rather not get into the whole "alcoholism as a disease" debate..


  • #10
    TEMPLAR KNIGHT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    phlegms wrote: »
    I have never understood the "don't drink wont drink" attitude. Not a personal attack on any member here who follow that creed in their approach to alcohol, but from my point of view it seems far too rigid. It seems to pigeonhole alcohol as a pure drug rather than something that one can genuinely enjoy the flavour of. I often go out and drink an amount that may be considered excessive, but I can also genuinely enjoy a glass of wine/beer with my dinner because I like the taste and have no more than a glass. If you haven't the maturity to see alcohol as something other than a "drug" to get drunk with then you are probably right not to drink in the first place..


    it tastes absolutely horrible thats why everyone has to '' get used to it'' ive never heard of anyone that drank for the first time and liked it straight away, and whats the point of getting used to something thats going to soak up a lot of your money and is not good for you (when not drank in moderation which most people dont)?


  • #11
    Fad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »
    it tastes absolutely horrible thats why everyone has to '' get used to it'' ive never heard of anyone that drank for the first time and liked it straight away, and whats the point of getting used to something thats going to soak up a lot of your money and is not good for you (when not drank in moderation which most people dont)?

    Depends what you're drinking.

    Things taste differently when you get older, less about getting used to it.


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  • #12
    SarcasticFairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭SarcasticFairy


    phlegms wrote: »
    I have never understood the "don't drink wont drink" attitude. Not a personal attack on any member here who follow that creed in their approach to alcohol, but from my point of view it seems far too rigid. It seems to pigeonhole alcohol as a pure drug rather than something that one can genuinely enjoy the flavour of. I often go out and drink an amount that may be considered excessive, but I can also genuinely enjoy a glass of wine/beer with my dinner because I like the taste and have no more than a glass. If you haven't the maturity to see alcohol as something other than a "drug" to get drunk with then you are probably right not to drink in the first place..

    But some people don't drink not because it's a drug, but because they don't like the taste....
    TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »
    it tastes absolutely horrible thats why everyone has to '' get used to it'' ive never heard of anyone that drank for the first time and liked it straight away, and whats the point of getting used to something thats going to soak up a lot of your money and is not good for you (when not drank in moderation which most people dont)?

    I never did the whole getting used to it thing :confused: I just only drink what I like the taste of... If I didn't/don't like it when I taste it first, I just won't drink it..


  • #13
    phlegms
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »
    it tastes absolutely horrible thats why everyone has to '' get used to it'' ive never heard of anyone that drank for the first time and liked it straight away, and whats the point of getting used to something thats going to soak up a lot of your money and is not good for you (when not drank in moderation which most people dont)?

    You seem to be dismissing the thousands and thousands of people around the world who drink wine because they enjoy the taste and the culture that surrounds it..

    As for the " ive never heard of anyone that drank for the first time and liked it straight away" statement, this is generally because your first introduction to alcohol as a teenager or when you turn 18 is generally the cheapest muck available at the time and flavour/taste is rarely taken into account.
    TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »
    whats the point of getting used to something thats going to soak up a lot of your money and is not good for you

    I think the flaws with this point are fairly obvious..


  • #14
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    I drink, but I found over the summer when I was drinking a lot that I stopped enjoying it as much, as if I'm building up a tolerance but I still seem to get all the bad stuff (the tiredness, the slightly drunk thinking and movement, the hangovers the next day).
    I stopped drinking for a while and then it became fun again.

    No idea why or how (could have been completely unrelated to how much I was drinking for all I know), but I realised that going out and not-drinking can be just as much fun, if not moreso (as long as the people you're with aren't just going to get slooshed and act like idiots, in which case it can suck even when drunk).
    Basically alcohol is not the magical fun-drug I once thought it was and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it can save money >.>.

    Also, I had a really good point when I started writing this by the way, I swear, but I forgot what it was and don't want to have wasted my time so submitting anyway.


  • #15
    TEMPLAR KNIGHT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    phlegms wrote: »
    You seem to be dismissing the thousands and thousands of people around the world who drink wine because they enjoy the taste and the culture that surrounds it..

    As for the " ive never heard of anyone that drank for the first time and liked it straight away" statement, this is generally because your first introduction to alcohol as a teenager or when you turn 18 is generally the cheapest muck available at the time and flavour/taste is rarely taken into account.



    I think the flaws with this point are fairly obvious..


    no actually the majority of people in my year had their first drink when they were out in pubs and nightclubs and drank all the normal stuff Budweiser etc not the likes of linden village and everyone ive spoken to say that they HAD to get used to the taste of drink and it wasnt the cheapest muck they were drinking.


    and i dont think the flaws with my last post are obvious please explain them to me?:D


  • #16
    TEMPLAR KNIGHT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    SarcasticFairy wrote: »
    But some people don't drink not because it's a drug, but because they don't like the taste....



    I never did the whole getting used to it thing :confused: I just only drink what I like the taste of... If I didn't/don't like it when I taste it first, I just won't drink it..


    well i can only speak for the people i know and they all had to get used to it thats why i never understood it?:D


  • #17
    phlegms
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »
    no actually the majority of people in my year had their first drink when they were out in pubs and nightclubs and drank all the normal stuff Budweiser etc not the likes of linden village and everyone ive spoken to say that they HAD to get used to the taste of drink and it wasnt the cheapest muck they were drinking.

    Budweiser would definitely fall into the cheap much category tbh..


  • #18
    Ginja Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    SarcasticFairy wrote: »
    But some people don't drink not because it's a drug, but because they don't like the taste....



    I never did the whole getting used to it thing :confused: I just only drink what I like the taste of... If I didn't/don't like it when I taste it first, I just won't drink it..
    same as that,I've never seen the point of drinking something if you don't like it.That's a lot more like addiction than anything else.

    I'm pro-choice so I think everyone should at LEAST try alchohol.

    I'm not a huge fan of it,my brother had some serious issues with alchohol when I was growing up,so drinking has always been that bit different of an experience for me.


    Also,this has thread has been done before,twice: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055529520
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055483207


  • #19
    cHaTbOx
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    Ginja Ninja wrote: »
    Also,this has thread has been done before,twice: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055529520
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055483207
    Sorry for commenting just on this .
    Just because it has been done a few times before doesn't mean it's wrong to start afresh .
    New posters can be added to the discussion as different threads take different directions and this could discourage them from posting there opinion at that time . Poster's opinions could have changed as this is a forum for young people and most of us are still finding ourselves and also there is a stigma to bumping old threads.
    Think that's the same with a few threads.


  • #20
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    phlegms wrote: »
    Wasn't pointing fingers there Dark. I have had multiple alcoholics on both sides of my family and I in no way show any signs of addiction or dependence.

    That's what scared me so much. Family members that I was very close to have died both directly and indirectrly because of alcohol dependance. I'm terrified of that happening to me.
    And what D4RK said about his addictive personality, I don't think I'm quite like that, but I'm definitely pretty good at taking things too far, drinking included. I'm sure fear of alcoholism puts a lot of people off.

    I just wanted to add in one more thing here. I took the decision not to go to the party I wanted to go to in Galway. Financially, it's a bad idea but mostly I know I'm only going to drink too much, so I'd rather continue to re-assess my attitudes to alcohol before I decide to start going mad again. All along this was my biggest reason against going. Tbh, I'm fairly proud of myself for taking the right step.


  • #21
    Davidius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    I don't drink because I have an addictive personality and because I'm cool.


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  • #22
    Pigwidgeon
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    I drink, probably once a week (the amount is limited by how little money I have at the moment though) when I go out with my friends or whatever.
    I don't drink to get drunk, and because I personally am a very slow drinker, I don't get absolutely trashed all the time. I'd have 3 or 4 pints of cider a night, of course it differs depending on my mood. If I'm in the mood for getting drunk, sometimes I will drink more, and mix different things.

    I can count on one hand the number of times where I have been beyond drunk. Both times, were stupid, involving me being drunk before I got to where I was going and a lot of tequila. I remember nothing of these nights, which were over a year ago. Tbh this really scares me, luckily I have good friends who minded me, one caught me trying to wander out of the club by myself, and god knows what could have happened if I had of left. I suffered badly after these times, was embarrassed by what I did, etc. and decided never to get that drunk again. I have learnt my lesson, and now know that I personally cannot handle ever having tequila again.

    I have a lot of respect for people who don't drink, I think today it takes a hell of a lot more guts to actually stand up for what you believe in and have the courage to say no. My best friend doesn't drink, and some of the most fun nights I've ever had have been with her, totally sober. So yeah I drink, but I see both sides, I can have fun with or without alcohol.


  • #23
    The Walsho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭The Walsho


    I drink a lot.


    I love a bit of the ol' drinking I do.


  • #24
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    I like drinking, I like being drunk. After years of practice I've learned to recognise the one that's one too many BEFORE I drink it, learned that vodka and druid's cider literally make me insane, and learned to seperate drunk thinking from actual reality (ie, no that person is not my besht frenn, I still can't dance, that girl isn't lookin at me funny and it doesn't make more sense to walk to 24 hour centra for fags than to go to sleep).

    There have been points in my life where if a night arrived and I didn't have anyone to drink with I'd be a bit bewildered and panicky about what to do for the night, but that's a fairly clear sign to take a break and I can't even remember the last time I was at that point.
    phlegms wrote: »
    I have never understood the "don't drink wont drink" attitude. Not a personal attack on any member here who follow that creed in their approach to alcohol, but from my point of view it seems far too rigid. It seems to pigeonhole alcohol as a pure drug rather than something that one can genuinely enjoy the flavour of. I often go out and drink an amount that may be considered excessive, but I can also genuinely enjoy a glass of wine/beer with my dinner because I like the taste and have no more than a glass. If you haven't the maturity to see alcohol as something other than a "drug" to get drunk with then you are probably right not to drink in the first place..

    This is not in any way directed at any posters here because I don't know any of them in real life, but in my experience of people who don't and won't drink a drop, there can be an element of-for want of a better word-fear. As in they don't like the idea of losing control and tend to be a bit emotionally reserved. As for "pigeonholing alcohol as a pure drug"...well I could say more about my opinions on that point but I better not corrupt the youth :D


  • #25
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Cain Full Jackpot wrote: »
    I like drinking, I like being drunk. After years of practice I've learned to recognise the one that's one too many BEFORE I drink it, learned that vodka and druid's cider literally make me insane, and learned to seperate drunk thinking from actual reality (ie, no that person is not my besht frenn, I still can't dance, that girl isn't lookin at me funny and it doesn't make more sense to walk to 24 hour centra for fags than to go to sleep).

    I still haven't figured out the one that's one too many.

    Though I have realised that spirits just make me forget everything. Vodka is especially bad for doing this.


  • #26
    KnifeWRENCH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    I was very anti-alcohol when I was a teenager. I had "we won't be angry, just disappointed" parents. That basically turned me off doing anything irresponsible.

    Since coming to college, I've learned to appreciate it a bit more. The biggest problem is trying to figure out the one that's one too many; that takes you from being tipsy and happy to completely fcuking hammered. The latter is not a fun place to end up.

    I've only ever been hopelessly drunk once in my life (lots of vodka and red bull, followed by a drinking game with a bottle of wine, followed by God knows what else... :o). I blacked out and woke up in my bed the next morning, not having a clue how I got there. I never want that to happen again because anything could have happened during the night that I'd be completely unaware of.

    So I think drinking can be a great way to have fun and blow off steam, and drinking just the right amount can turn a good night out into an amazing night out. I'm a fan of drink; just as long as it's in moderation.


  • #27
    Daysha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    As strange and stupid as it sounds, I feel I need to be going out more often to stop myself getting drunk more often.

    Here me out on this one, I love going out, going to the nightclub and all that. But I could never do it all the time. Only once every 2nd weekend or so would I feel the need to go out and aim to have a really good night. People that spend 3/4 nights a week in college going out and getting pissed, that I'll never be able to do.

    My problem is the longer I wait to have a really good night, the more I drink, the more I make a fool of myself and the greater hangover I have the next morning. But if I go out more often and instead just have a sociable one or two once a week or so, then those messy nights happen far, far less. I was always more of a pub-scene kinda guy anyway.

    I think the majority of people our age that drink always have one of those nights where they test to see what their limit is and end up going overboard, like what Insect just described. I had one of those nights as well and have never been that bad since, thankfully regardless of how much I have I always feel I'm sober enough to tell myself enough is enough, the problem is not everyone can do that.


  • #28
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    KnifeWRENCH wrote: »
    Since coming to college, I've learned to appreciate it a bit more. The biggest problem is trying to figure out the one that's one too many; that takes you from being tipsy and happy to completely fcuking hammered. The latter is not a fun place to end up.

    I've only ever been hopelessly drunk once in my life (lots of vodka and red bull, followed by a drinking game with a bottle of wine, followed by God knows what else... :o). I blacked out and woke up in my bed the next morning, not having a clue how I got there. I never want that to happen again because anything could have happened during the night that I'd be completely unaware of.

    Last time I was hopelessly drunk I realised in the pub that the alcohol train was about to hit .I'd had a fair amount of whiskey at home and then a pint and intended to play it cool for a bit but some guy bought me shots and I didn't want to let free drink go to waste. Managed to make the decision to leave and my housemate dropped me back. At that point I was rolling around on the floor (I kept falling off the couch so I decided to cut out the middle man and just stay on the ground), loudly declaring the fact that I was "happy as a bitch!" :confused: and maintaining that it didn't matter that my dress was around my waist because my (straight, female) housemates only loved looking at my ass. I can remember up to getting home but blackouts are very scary. Mildly entertaining on that occasion but if I hadn't known I'd reached the point where I had to go home it could have been unpleasant to say the least


  • #29
    Fad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Cain Full Jackpot wrote: »
    I can remember up to getting home but blackouts are very scary.

    They are terrifying. I've had four or five and I have no idea what happened (Twice I wandered off so I have no idea what I did :confused:).

    This is not a ZOMG I was so wasted story......this is just pointing out that blacking out is not fun.


  • #30
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    I enjoy the odd pint of Guinness, I do.


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  • #31
    Insect Overlord
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    Daysha wrote: »
    I think the majority of people our age that drink always have one of those nights where they test to see what their limit is and end up going overboard, like what Insect just described.

    That was actually KnifeWRENCH ;)

    I'll be making my contribution to this thread in a few hours, busy at the moment.


  • #32
    A Neurotic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Going out, dancing, having a few drinks, and letting off some steam is fun. Staying in, having a bit of banter, playing games, and having a few drinks is fun.

    We have a ridiculous habit of going way overboard in this country, myself included. Last night I had the pleasure of observing a few females (none of whom I know particularly well, all being of the decidedly "silly" variety) having a naggin or so of vodka each before going out on the town. One of them lay down on the floor for no reason, spilled her drink all over herself and got sticky floor crap in her hair. Basically spent an hour dolling herself up and looked like a gutter skank when it was time to go. Not that she noticed. One burst into tears on the way to the bus for no apparent reason, forcing the others to throng upon her in a 10-minute wave of drunken false sympathy. One fell quite badly while walking down the bus towards the back seat, couldn't get up without assistance and nearly fell asleep on the trip in. Two got off at the entirely wrong stop and ran off, forcing a relatively sober friend to get off at the next stop and go look for them.

    A few weeks ago, before going out, I had a bottle of wine and a few cans of cider in my apartment on an empty stomach. I remember nothing of the night from 10 o clock onwards, but I'm told that I went missing in my apartment block for quite a while, was found, got a bus with two of my friends, jumped off bus after 5 minutes to get sick outside Dominos, said that I hated myself repeatedly, was dragged into a taxi, and placed in a bed by those stellar friends of mine.
    I woke up at 6am, fully dressed on my bed, with a glass of water on my table and a bin by my bed. I had absolutely no recollection of any of the night's events. I checked my phone and saw a few missed calls and increasingly frantic "WHERE ARE YOU?" texts. It is the worst feeling in the world.

    Where the f*ck is the fun in that? Why do we do it to ourselves so regularly?


  • #33
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Fad wrote: »
    They are terrifying. I've had four or five and I have no idea what happened (Twice I wandered off so I have no idea what I did :confused:).

    This is not a ZOMG I was so wasted story......this is just pointing out that blacking out is not fun.

    I've blacked out way more than is safe, but one episode before Christmas was particularly bad. I won't go into details, but suffice to say that me and my brother don't remember a thing of what happened about five minutes after we got into the night club. I can laugh at the story, but when I really think about it, I could have done anything that night and I wouldn't have had a clue.

    It hasn't happened to that extent since then, or before that, but it's been close. Forgetting stuff can be funny, but when somebody has to tell you exactly what you did/where you went, etc., that's when it's scary and not so funny.


  • #34
    almostnever
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    I don't drink. Mostly because I know I could easily become addicted/reliant on it...
    And also because of some pretty bad experiences with my friends, where it was very lucky that I was sober,let me tell you. I don't judge people who drink, I really don't care whether someone does or doesn't, but for myself, I hope I never do.

    I genuinely don't like the taste of anything I've tried,btw. And I have tried most things tbh.

    But scary experiences have put me personally off for life because I know I wouldn't be able to handle it. And I know from experience,my friends can't either.

    (If this is worded weirdly or whatever,it's just because I am EXHAUSTED.)


  • #35
    Aoibheann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    As a fair few of you know, I don't drink. The reasons for this have varied over the years.

    I used to be one of *those* teenagers, pretty much the complete antithesis of a rebellious child in every way. I had very strong moral stances and believe me, I wasn't afraid to defend them to the ground - I was completely anti-drinking for one. But thinking back on it, I only saw things in black and white at the time, and alcohol was definitely one of the "dark" things to me. Then again, I had seen enough people completely mess themselves up at that point that my attitude towards alcohol made sense, at least to me.

    Since then, my attitude has changed a lot. I'm no longer anti-drinking, it just happens to be something I have zero interest in, tasting the odd drink aside. I've no problem whatsoever with other people drinking (so long as they're not causing me any harm obviously), and I find it quite annoying that some people take issue with my not drinking. I don't feel I should have to defend my not-drinking to them when they expect me to accept their drinking (which I do). I respect the choices of other people, they can at least do the same in return.


  • #36
    TheCardHolder
    Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭TheCardHolder


    I have no drinking problem, I drink, I pass out. What's the problem?

    Terrible jokes adside, I enjoy a drink now and again. I can go out and have a good time without drinking but often I like to have a few drinks to enhance that. I rarily say I'm getting absouletely locked tonight and usually just have a few drinks, stop when I'm feeling tipsy. This coming thursday is an exception as it's the end of my exams and no better way to end 2 weeks of stress with a good old fashioned session.


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  • #37
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    Since then, my attitude has changed a lot. I'm no longer anti-drinking, it just happens to be something I have zero interest in, tasting the odd drink aside. I've no problem whatsoever with other people drinking (so long as they're not causing me any harm obviously), and I find it quite annoying that some people take issue with my not drinking. I don't feel I should have to defend my not-drinking to them when they expect me to accept their drinking (which I do). I respect the choices of other people, they can at least do the same in return.

    This is personally the most annoying thing. The amount of times I've been told I HAVE to go out and get bladdered is stupid. That's more annoying that anything else :mad:


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I drink quite a lot, both in terms of volume and regularity. But, I don't drink because I have to, or because I feel the need to; I drink because I love it. Simple as that, really. I've had many, many of the best nights of my life when I was relatively drunk, and I don't think they would have been the same had I been sober. Of course, that's just me: I'm sure others can have great nights when they're sober. I could type a lot more on this, but I just can't be arsed, really.


  • #39
    Ginja Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    i'm kind of the opposite,I don't drink that often at all and not much when I do.

    I'm actually a bit odd in a way,I've had a lot of good nights sober,but the BEST times I've had i was sober for,i guess for me you have better chance of a good night with drink,but there's so much more enjoyment of it when I'm sober


  • #40
    Aoibheann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    D4RK ONION wrote: »
    This is personally the most annoying thing. The amount of times I've been told I HAVE to go out and get bladdered is stupid. That's more annoying that anything else :mad:

    No, I'm sorry, you HAVE to go out and get bladdered I know, it's quite irritating. I'm used to it though, people have tried and failed to force their religious beliefs on me and made me lose respect for them because of it - and this is no different! Some people don't get it though, so you have to be a bit patient. I've found a lot more people recently that just find it interesting/don't pass any remark at all as opposed to patronising me, it's amazing how attitudes seem to be starting to change for the better in that way.


  • #41
    cork*girl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭cork*girl


    I do drink, but I dont get the whole thing of trying to make people who dont drink - drink. its their choice! Leave them alone!!!!! anyway.. I like to drink and to go out have a good time.. being drunk can also be fun but once it doesnt cross the line. I have never blacked out and hope I never do!! I hate those who go out with a plan on being the most drunk at the pub/club or to have everyone talking about how drunk you were at the weekend, in school on Monday. these people bother me so much and I know sooo many of them!!

    as about the "I hate the taste" thing.. its like mushrooms, you hate them when you are younger but when you grow up (!) they are nice! thats what I found anyway :p


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  • #42
    Arcade Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Arcade Panda


    I try, as much as humanly possible, to emulate this guy when drinking

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    I kid, I kid....
    I like drink, but I'm careful most of the time (not saying I don't have horror stories). On both sides of my family there are alcoholics so it's pretty much in my genes. My dad rarely drinks and when I questioned him why once his answer was "because I love it too much". So yeah, I take it easy.


  • #43
    DancingQueen:)
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭DancingQueen:)


    I don't drink much at all. I'm busy on Saturday and Sunday mornings so I can't be waking up late with a hangover so i can't have too much then i'm in school Monday to Friday so no time to drink then either. I have a good time without it but don't have anything against so it'll probably change in the next few months when i finish school.


  • #44
    jumpguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    I don't really drink that much tbh. Pretty much all of my friends drink regularly though, but thankfully a good share of them have grown up from the "going-out-to-get-absolutely-locked". Also, alot of my friends are fairly sound and don't force me to drink, or look down on me for not drinking (but they're dickhead scumbags who do do that, but I don't give a **** tbh.)

    I have no problem with other reasons drinking at all, the reasons I don't drink alot myself are quite simple. First of all, and probably the most embarrassing one being a guy, but I ****ing hate the taste of most drinks. I mean, one or two are just about bareable, but some are on par with tasting like piss. Whenever I get the opportunity to drink, I don't drink that much mainly due to this restricting factor, and it kinda makes me weary anyway.

    The second reason is that I'm far too panicky when trying to get into pubs. Some of my friends are now getting into pubs and getting served...I'm young looking, not too bad like, I LOOK 16. Not 18. That's the problem. Although I can get in some places, I have to get someone else to get me drink, then I don't end up staying for long because I'm afraid someone will throw me out (or worse, gaurds close up the place or something and I get asked for ID, don't have it, they send me home to my parents, who'd kill me).

    The third reason is my parents would kill me and I'd absolutely hate to get caught. That one is easy really.

    The fourth reason is that I pretty much despise Ireland's ravaging drink problem, and people's reliance on alcohol to have fun. It's closing the mind of young people. If I was asked "d'you want to go surfing, mountain biking, or knacker drinking?" By God, knacker drinking would be the last thing on my mind.


    There's a good few more reasons, which I might discuss later, but they're the main ones really. When I'm 18, many of those reasons won't matter, and yeah, I probably will drink a very small bit, socialising and whatnot. I have nothing like that against it.

    An advantage I've found is that it's kinda socially stunted some of my friends. For example, many of them are afraid to dance or talk to a woman unless they're drunk, but I had to do it first the hard, sober way first and am now pretty used to it, and can enjoy it sober. I think I'm far less socially dependent on alcohol than some other people.


    EDIT: Jesus! That was long! Sorry :o


  • #45
    Halla Basin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 316 ✭✭Halla Basin


    My background blood alcohol level is below average. I need three standard drinks to become sober. Otherwise I never ever take any risks and drive way too slowly.


  • #46
    Jay P
    Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Halla Basin wrote: »
    My background blood alcohol level is below average. I need three standard drinks to become sober. Otherwise I never ever take any risks and drive way too slowly.

    That's one of the most confusing posts I've ever read...


  • #47
    lou91
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lou91


    Never drank that much before college, still below average now. One great reason to drink - Being sobre in clubs is not fun. I can't think of much worse tbh. I envy the people who can have a great night in a club completely sobre, but doesn't work for me. Possibly because I'm not a fan of clubs in general, but still.

    Having gaping holes in your memory is worrying and not at all fun. Much better than getting sick on yourself though. That really is nasty.

    Hmm, I would have also described myself as having an addictive personality, but it just doesn't seem to be happening with alcohol. Probably because of the side effects, cost and aforementioned vomiting on self.

    One thing that majorly annoys me-
    "Oh my god, best night EVER! Can't remember a thing!"

    THEN WHAT'S THE FCUKING POINT???


  • #48
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    Jay P wrote: »
    That's one of the most confusing posts I've ever read...

    I read the first few words and was like "Is that some kind of medical condition?", then I realised it was a weak joke


  • #49
    Halla Basin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 316 ✭✭Halla Basin


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    I read the first few words and was like "Is that some kind of medical condition?", then I realised it was a weak joke

    Where do you get off tassidly tossing aside someone's genuine attempt to introduce a little laughter into the world? I can understand if you didn't think it was funny for some reason, but if that's the case, then just force back the laugh to yourself and try to maintain someone's else's feelings.


  • #50
    jumpguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Halla Basin wrote: »
    Where do you get off tassidly tossing aside someone's genuine attempt to introduce a little laughter into the world? I can understand if you didn't think it was funny for some reason, but if that's the case, then just force back the laugh to yourself and try to maintain someone's else's feelings.
    I thought it was mildly amusing. :pac:


  • #51
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    MOVING ON has anyone tried non-alcoholic beers? What's the consensus?


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