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UFC 108 Discussion **Spoilers during event**

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    #152
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    What ya watching on Monday Raw or Impact lads?


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    #153
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Come on Silva ya tart


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    #154
    maharg92
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭maharg92


    silva you fool


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    #155
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    He had him ready to finish, just didnt have the gas to follow through


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    #156
    Sid_Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    Evan's is going to win by decision but Silva is going to have done more damage. Crappy fights like this demonstrate the limitations of the UFC scoring system.


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    #157
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Legit dont care about who wins


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    #158
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Bollocks............. pitty


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    #159
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sid_Justice wrote: »
    Evan's is going to win by decision but Silva is going to have done more damage. Crappy fights like this demonstrate the limitations of the UFC scoring system.

    Rashad controled most of the fight, although he didnt do any damage, i still think he'd have won under Pride rules. Silva landed one good shot throughout the fight and done nothing else.


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    #160
    maharg92
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭maharg92


    anyone else see dana talking to silva just before the decision was announced wonder what he said


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    #161
    Beer is Life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭Beer is Life


    Silva should have pushed the pace from the start and he would have had that match. Rashad was exposed in the last round and obviously didn't have an answer for Silvas power


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    #162
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Enjoyed that.

    Time for sleep now!


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    #163
    cokedrinker
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭cokedrinker


    Annoyed as fcuk with that fight - Rashad and his bs takedowns served no purpose other than to avoid any sort of fight with Silva. More impressive was Silva getting back to his feet so easily, while receiving zero damage.
    To be able to win in this manner is bleh... especially after shogun lost because ''kicks to the legs don't end fights'', well you're not gonna get knocked out after falling on your ass a few times either :/


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    #164
    SDTimeout
    Registered Users Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    I don't think we should start to say it was fixed. Silva was gassed and i loved how he managed to break Rashad's mental state. If Silva could do that imagine what rampage will have him like.

    I don't think we should say it was fixed either with the angle of Rashad losing going into the Jackson fight. That sort of fight would still mainevent if the two of them had gone on three fight losing streaks. The tension is there and it's going to kick off come May.


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    #165
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sorry, but anyone who says the fight was fixed is a f*ckin idiot!


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    #166
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Sorry, but anyone who says the fight was fixed is a f*ckin idiot!

    Or posts on Sherdog (same thing)


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    #167
    Dragan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    cokedrinker wrote: »
    Annoyed as fcuk with that fight - Rashad and his bs takedowns served no purpose other than to avoid any sort of fight with Silva. More impressive was Silva getting back to his feet so easily, while receiving zero damage.
    To be able to win in this manner is bleh... especially after shogun lost because ''kicks to the legs don't end fights'', well you're not gonna get knocked out after falling on your ass a few times either :/

    Yeah, decorated wrestler used takedowns to nullify the stand up of a fear striker.

    Crazy.


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    #168
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Sam Stout was very impressive. I also really enjoyed Kampmann's performance.

    Junior Dos Santos was VERY impressive, all the talk pre-fight was that if he stands and bangs with Yvel he will be put down, but WOW that was a big KO.

    Paul Daley... Scary human being.

    As for Rashad, i thought Thiago was very foolish. He had Rashad wobbling, but he was either gassed or too busy being a knob with the showboating to finish him off. Rashad won the first 2 rounds because Thiago Silva did nothing. And last time i checked winning 2 rounds is better than winning 1.


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    #169
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Sorry, but anyone who says the fight was fixed is a f*ckin idiot!

    Fight fixing definitely goes on (obviously) but I agree I doubt that fight was fixed.


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    #170
    Seifer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    Anyone have a link where I can watch the fights in reasonable quality?
    I used to rely on quickflicksnow.com but both links they have for 108 aren't working.
    Watched most of the fights on mma-core.com but in piss poor quality with out of sync sound.


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    #171
    cokedrinker
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭cokedrinker


    Dragan wrote: »
    Yeah, decorated wrestler used takedowns to nullify the stand up of a fear striker.

    Crazy.

    :rolleyes: Yes, understandable captain obvious, but he did nothing while in dominant positions on the ground.... He basically used takedowns to win the fight on points - avoiding a fight both in the standup and while on the gound... My point was that it is pretty ****ty that a fight can be won in this way, whereas destroying someone with leg kicks seemingly won't get the same result.


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    #172
    merlinsmerryman
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭merlinsmerryman


    Seifer wrote: »
    Anyone have a link where I can watch the fights in reasonable quality?
    I used to rely on quickflicksnow.com but both links they have for 108 aren't working.
    Watched most of the fights on mma-core.com but in piss poor quality with out of sync sound.

    http://www.mmalinker.com/


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    #173
    RustyBeanTin
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭RustyBeanTin


    where can i watch ufc 108 at or when will it be showed on sky?


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    #174
    Seifer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    merlinsmerryman wrote: »
    http://www.mmalinker.com/
    Thanks but seems to be of similar quality to mma-core.


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    #175
    cokedrinker
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭cokedrinker


    In addition, Rami Genaur of FightMetric found this fun stat:

    Despite landing eight takedowns throughout the match, Evans managed to land only three strikes on the ground. It is exceedingly rare to see an instance where a fighter lands more takedowns than ground strikes. In fact, Evans now holds the record for least strikes landed by a fighter with five or more takedowns landed.

    ...

    This, of course, begs the question represented by the equation in the title: In the absence of any striking (or submission attempts, for that matter) once on the ground, are takedowns really an effective offensive technique?

    LOL nice stat to have right there!

    I most definitely think that if you do no damage after the TD, it should not count as an offensive technique. Silva being able to standup so easily should at least cancel out the points scored for the takedown.

    Not that it matters because the MMA scoring system is crap, but Fightmetric has Silva outstriking Evans 67-21 http://fightmetric.com/fights/Evans-Silva.html ....


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    #176
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    Paul Daley... Scary human being.

    Agreed.... BUT.......

    I really hope he works on his ground game. Anyone who saw his fight v Sheilds, where he got controlled and subbed will know what i'm talking about.

    I've always had a soft spot for Daley, was gutted when he "retired" a while back and i'm so glad to see him finally on the big stage smashing guys in exciting fashion! Long may it continue!


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    #177
    johnny_adidas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭johnny_adidas


    maharg92 wrote: »
    anyone else see dana talking to silva just before the decision was announced wonder what he said

    it was raschad though that he talked to before the decision....just tapped silva on the shoulder (as he does to a lot of the main event fighters afterwards)..... right????

    and i think i probably told him to build up the rampage fight (win or lose - but it was a clear 2-1 decision for evans imo)
    I cant wait for the countdown show for that fight, could possibly be more entertaining than the fight itself


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    #178
    The-Game
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭The-Game


    johnny_adidas wrote: »
    and i think i probably told him to build up the rampage fight (win or lose - but it was a clear 2-1 decision for evans imo)

    Agreed!! Bar getting rocked in the 3rd round Rashad wasnt in any trouble and had controlled Silva via takedowns.
    johnny_adidas wrote: »
    I cant wait for the countdown show for that fight, could possibly be more entertaining than the fight itself

    Hopefully so!! Two huge egos and personalities like that, TUF Was full of it, cant wait for some confirmation on when its going to happen!


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    #179
    mailburner
    Registered Users Posts: 23,848 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    RustyBeanTin wrote: »
    where can i watch ufc 108 at or when will it be showed on sky?

    You can only watch ufc on espn

    fights4all.com do have the ufc fights tho it often can
    be a day or twoafter before they have them


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    #180
    Lord Muck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Lord Muck


    Junior Dos Santos was the big winner of the night in my opinion. Very good stand up, apparently he has very good BJJ , but i've never seen him use it , he just tends to knock people out early, i cant remember if any of his fights in the ufc went to the ground. He's a very dangerous dude, even with his mangled yoda like ear.


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    #181
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Devastator wrote: »


    Paul Daley missed weight! Think weighed in at 172Lbs, therefore forfeits part(or all?) of his fight money
    scudzilla wrote: »
    ...........also will not be entitled to any of the Fight of the Night bonuses

    Now, this is how i understood it. Didnt Anthony Johnson disqualify himself from bonuses when HE missed weight?

    Paul Daley was given KO of the Night.


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