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Rage against the machine for christmas number 1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    It's miserable to put down young talent.

    Says the man who made a living doing just that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    What cop-outs, they'll lose a ridiculous sum if it does, that's why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    surprised they copped out. The X factor single just about sold more in one day then the prior x factor singer in one day. So chances are good it will come out on top.


    source: NME http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48906 reports a sale of 109,726 thousands sold on the first day while the prior X factor winner sold just over 105 000 on day one (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallelujah_%28Leonard_Cohen_song%29#Alexandra_Burke) considering how much she cleaned up and her number 2 challanger actually fell into the same market as her (it was another cover of the same song by Jeff Buckly). Killing in the name will pull none of the people who would have normally bought the x factor single over to them considering they are such blatantly different markets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    hahahah rage are at number one and number 3! Would be class if it got top 2 spots!!!

    In fairness thou for this to be a REAL rage against the establishment they should have pick some total nobody band who've been gigging for years and elevated them to rock god's but i guess that wouldn't have worked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    I don't understand why it's no1 already:confused:

    Should people not have waited until next week to buy it? What's the point in being no1 the week before Christmas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I don't understand why it's no1 already:confused:

    Should people not have waited until next week to buy it? What's the point in being no1 the week before Christmas?

    in britain this is the week that counts

    in ireland next week counts

    the cd fr xfactor was only released today so id say they will catch up pretty quick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    Worst campaign ever. But the Sony guys are loving it because people who would never have bought a Christmas single are tripping over each other to pay for a track that they probably already own, to stick it to the man, when the man is the guy who they end up supporting anyway. It's not big and it's not clever. All you're doing is essentially doubling the projected profits for Sonys Christmas takings. Instead of your hard earned going to Floor 6 department 12 of Sony, it's now going to Floor 8 department 16 of Sony. And what you're actually doing is giving Sony more capital to promote next years chart topping Christmas hit (probably X-Factor). But oh no, wait, we'll jump up and rebel and support an alternative song next year too!! (probably owned by Sony). Fcking sheep.


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cianos wrote: »
    Worst campaign ever. But the Sony guys are loving it because people who would never have bought a Christmas single are tripping over each other to pay for a track that they probably already own, to stick it to the man, when the man is the guy who they end up supporting anyway. It's not big and it's not clever. All you're doing is essentially doubling the projected profits for Sonys Christmas takings. Instead of your hard earned going to Floor 6 department 12 of Sony, it's now going to Floor 8 department 16 of Sony. And what you're actually doing is giving Sony more capital to promote next years chart topping Christmas hit (probably X-Factor). But oh no, wait, we'll jump up and rebel and support an alternative song next year too!! (probably owned by Sony). Fcking sheep.

    You have missed the point entirely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Cianos wrote: »
    Worst campaign ever. But the Sony guys are loving it because people who would never have bought a Christmas single are tripping over each other to pay for a track that they probably already own, to stick it to the man, when the man is the guy who they end up supporting anyway. It's not big and it's not clever. All you're doing is essentially doubling the projected profits for Sonys Christmas takings. Instead of your hard earned going to Floor 6 department 12 of Sony, it's now going to Floor 8 department 16 of Sony. And what you're actually doing is giving Sony more capital to promote next years chart topping Christmas hit (probably X-Factor). But oh no, wait, we'll jump up and rebel and support an alternative song next year too!! (probably owned by Sony). Fcking sheep.

    *sigh :confused:

    It's not about sticking it to "the man"

    It about sticking it to the X-Factor, the X-Factor's music and Simon Cowell.

    How many years now has Cowell presided over a non-original Christmas number 1.

    You my friend have missed the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    *sigh :confused:

    It's not about sticking it to "the man"

    It about sticking it to the X-Factor, the X-Factor's music and Simon Cowell.

    How many years now has Cowell presided over a non-original Christmas number 1.

    You my friend have missed the point.

    No, I just don't see the point of the point. It's not like RATM being number 1 is going to dissuade anyone who would have been buying the X-Factor track anyway. They're still going to make the same amount of money off their X-Factor track even if RATM sells 10 times as many copies as it, because they're two completely different target markets. So I don't think Cowell will be losing any sleep over this at all.

    And as I said, the amusing irony of RATM being on the same label as X-Factor means that with this campaign Sony are gaining more capital which they will undoubtedly use to churn out more generic chart sh!te.

    edit: Just checked the charts and RATM is nowhere to be seen...thought they were number 1 a day or two ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    It about sticking it to the X-Factor, the X-Factor's music and Simon Cowell.

    But thats the problem, you're not.

    THis year's x factor single has already sold me in its first day then last year's. This campaign has had probably no effect on the sales of the x factor single and worse it may have actually boosted it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,067 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    THis year's x factor single has already sold me in its first day then last year's. This campaign has had probably no effect on the sales of the x factor single and worse it may have actually boosted it.
    Wha?! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    basquille wrote: »


    last year's x factor sold 105 000 on its first day

    this one sold 109 000 on its first day. thats a 4 000 increase

    It may beat X factor to the number 1 spot but not by undercutting x factor's own sales, all thats happened is the market size has been increased because of the large number of people who normally wouldnt buy a christmas single are buying.

    Its the same logic that led to the success of the Wii.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    Just saw that RATM prefomed live on BBC Radio today. They played "Killing in the Name", and broke their promise to keep it clean. Brilliant.

    Linky


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    A BBC spokesman later said: "5 live breakfast featured a live broadcast of the song Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine.
    "We had spoken to the band repeatedly beforehand and they had agreed not to swear.
    "When they did we faded the band out and apologised immediately to anyone who was offended."
    Um ? Really ? Did they REALLY expect them not to swear. I mean the clue was in the name, and in the lyrics......


    The error occurred less than 24 hours after George Michael had uttered the f-word during Chris Evan's drivetime show on Radio 2.


    LOL - Error ? Seriously thats some dodgy ass reporting...


    Evans, who is soon to replace the retiring legend Terry Wogan in the station's breakfast slot, "sincerely apologised" to listeners for any offence the singer caused.
    BBC radio shows have faced closer scrutiny following the well-publicised phone scandal involving Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand last year.
    Many live programmes have been forced to prepare their output after a record number of complaints, despite the original lewd prank calls to Andrew Sachs being pre-recorded before airing in October 2008.


    Dammit this is getting ridiculous. The Beeb presenters are so scared of doing anything controversial at this point. Hmmm maybe Paul Gogarty had the right idea after all......


    Edit: Rage appear to be getting into it a bit more: http://www.gigwise.com/news/53926/Rage-Against-The-Machine-Simon-Cowell-Profits-Off-Humiliating-People
    Before performing the track, Zac blasted Cowell by saying: “Simon is an interesting character who has profited greatly off humiliating people on live television and has a unique position of someone who can not only capture the attention of some people on television but also on the airwaves.

    “We see this as a necessary break in the link of the chain of control.”

    Asked about the criticism from some quarters that Rage are on the same label, Sony, as Cowell, guitarist Tom Morello rubbished the naysayers.

    He said: “People aren't buying Killing In The Name to protest against a record coming out on a major company. We wrote 'Killing In The Name' in a small industrial slum in Los Angeles, the X Factor song was written by a cabal of overpaid songwriters to shove that schmaltzy business down your throats, so they are two very different choices.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Cianos wrote: »
    No, I just don't see the point of the point. It's not like RATM being number 1 is going to dissuade anyone who would have been buying the X-Factor track anyway.

    That's not the point. It's to stop them getting the number 1 slot. X-Factor was always going to sell big.
    And as I said, the amusing irony of RATM being on the same label as X-Factor means that with this campaign Sony are gaining more capital which they will undoubtedly use to churn out more generic chart sh!te.

    That's not the point. I couldn't give a fiddlers that Sony are lining their pockets over this. We'll take down Sony another day :cool:
    So I don't think Cowell will be losing any sleep over this at all.
    You're sort of getting it there. Keep trying. Do you think he cares about the money at this stage. At this point in his career for him it's no doubt more about the prestige and being able to say he masterminded consecutive Christmas number 1's. This is what I want to see an end to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    But thats the problem, you're not.

    THis year's x factor single has already sold me in its first day then last year's. This campaign has had probably no effect on the sales of the x factor single and worse it may have actually boosted it.

    Yes you are .... :p

    As I said above it's not about the money. It's the prestige attached with the Number 1 slot. The single could have been released in March and sold twice as much for example, but 10 years from now will have disappeared into obscurity.

    Being number 1 at Christmas it's alot more likely to be remembered for longer. Christmas compilations anyone?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    As I said above it's not about the money. It's the prestige attached with the Number 1 slot.

    I'm not talking about the money, i'm talking about making a statement. Which you are not, you are expanding the numbers, nothing more. you get a bit of nice press for a week or two and it'll become that tiny bit of trivia that gets brought up in articles every now and then about the influence of internet or christmas charts. But when the christmas season is over and the music execs go back into their offices they will look at the numbers, see that by the figures they had another fantastic year and go back to doing the same thing, X factor season 6 will be notched as yet another success in the series and ITV will gladly pay for the 7th.

    Nothing changes for x factor or cowell. You have stuck no one. The most you have done is stick a big sign on your head saying *New Christmas single market OVER HERE!*

    case in point

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/x-factor/6833183/Rage-Against-The-Machine-retain-lead-over-X-Factors-Joe-McElderry.html

    the numbers overall are up nothing more. Everybody wins!

    except those who wanted the other side to lose.
    Being number 1 at Christmas it's alot more likely to be remembered for longer.

    yeah just like Mr Blobby or the last five x factor singles no one cares about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    I'm not talking about the money
    Read the rest of your post and your previous posts.
    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    I'm not talking about the money
    i'm talking about making a statement. Which you are not, you are expanding the numbers, nothing more.
    I am making a statement here it is: "I don't want the x-Factor single to be number 1"
    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    I'm not talking about the money
    Nothing changes for x factor or cowell. You have stuck no one. The most you have done is stick a big sign on your head saying *New Christmas single market OVER HERE!*
    Yes it does. Winning X-Factor doesn't equate automatically to Xmas number 1. That's a change in my eyes :rolleyes:

    the numbers overall are up nothing more. Everybody wins!
    except those who wanted the other side to lose.
    Let that be the case. I'd call it a win.
    yeah just like Mr Blobby or the last five x factor singles no one cares about.

    oooh. Just shot urself in the foot with that one. Well remembered :rolleyes:

    If you don't see the point by now I give up. Happy Christmas!
    Enjoy your pressies :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,655 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    personnally I think its a f*cking stupid idea.

    Sony own both. There's no f*ck you to anyone here, does it damage X factor??? No it doesnt all it means is that they'll milk the anti x facto mentality as much as it they already milk the bubblegum pop fans every year.

    As someone said earlier, I would not put it pass being a viral campaign by sony, both last year and this year the *alternative album* to pick over x factor was owned by the same company pushing the x factor album.

    Normally I'd be the last to jump in with conspiracy forum nutjobs, but something stinks here.



    'I'll just do what someone else tells me' WRAGHHH I'M SUCH A REBEL RARARARA!

    (idiots)

    Completely agree. As much as I enjoy the RATM, with this endeavor the only people who win are Sony. Sure it can be argued thats its the point of ensuring the X Factor doesnt get to number 1 but its a weak argument and one that would be true if people werent still buying the X Factor single.

    Its not like people are chosing to buy the RATM single instead of the X Factor single. Its 2 very distinct fan bases.

    If anything it says that RATM fans are slightly egotistical. I always found many RATM fans to be rebellous in name anyway. and the music is too. I bet they all paid on the luas and bus to get the store to buy the album. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk




    Rage Against The Machine on BBC Radio this morning. The person in charge of what goes out on the air must have been asleep.


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »

    Nothing changes for x factor or cowell.

    Personally I'm not looking for "change". I'd like my taste in music to be represented in the charts. Things have become very samey over the last decade. It brings about an element of diversity, and with it a breath of fresh air. I think some folks are taking this far too seriously anyway. The founders of the facebook group themselves said its not about FIGHTING DA POWA!! Its a bit of fun with some charity thrown in for good measure.

    Besides, if nothing else, it would be funny to see a group of nerds upset 12 weeks of marketing :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Dun laoire


    super-rush wrote: »
    Christmas number 1??? Remember where you heard it first.


    A worthy no1. Super remix


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    oooh. Just shot urself in the foot with that one. Well remembered :rolleyes:

    If you don't see the point by now I give up. Happy Christmas!
    Enjoy your pressies :D

    1. I wikied that (you can look back a page where I said I looked up the list of christmas numbers ones)


    2. I see your point, but firstly thats not what you said in your first post, you said it was about *sticking it to x factor* which quite frankly your not.

    Secondly you want RATM to number 1, fine by me, like I said in an earlier post, I have no issue with people wanting to have RATM as number 1, what I do draw issue with is people thinking they are *sticking it* to X factor when they are clearly not, people saying its a a movement of the *alternative class* or other bollocks which again IT IS NOT!

    These are two completely different issues.


    And because of the costs of moving in the new year I dont get any pressies this year :D, but I'll enjoy spending the day with my family over dinner with no tv on or radio or interference from anything outside of that circle.
    Read the rest of your post and your previous posts.

    I'm talking numbers as in units shipped as in the popularity of the product...Do I care where the money goes or how much of it there was? No I'm talking about the most accurate representation of how popular the two pieces of music were over the christmas season. Again there is a difference.


    The founders of the facebook group themselves said its not about FIGHTING DA POWA!!

    Then why are they selling the whole campaign on fighting da powa? Why couldnt it have been simply *Lets get RATM to number 1* why have rage factor and the comments about Cowell and X factor etc?

    Again I stress to people quoting me and saying
    Personally I'm not looking for "change". I'd like my taste in music to be represented in the charts

    or
    I just want to do it for fun

    I have no issue with that, I salute you, best of luck I hope your wishes come true.

    But to those who state they are representing the *alternative class* or *sticking it to Cowen* I do take issue.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    *sticking it to Cowen*

    Fruedian slip there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    I agree with a lot of your points and we agree that it's not about money and stopping people buying tracks like the X-factor one, which isn't going to happen.
    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    You said it was about *sticking it to x factor* which quite frankly your not.
    This I disagree with. Simply put, for reasons mentioned previously. But hey you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan


    I skipped most of this thread. Maybe somebody else has said it that RATM are going to give ALL of their royalties to charity...

    There is now a charity page set up on the Irish facebook group...

    Please give generously..(I started the ball rolling with a donation-peter)..

    http://www.justgiving.com/explodingmarmalade


    Rage against the machine Irish group..

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=231784611232&ref=ts


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Mossy Monk wrote: »


    Rage Against The Machine on BBC Radio this morning. The person in charge of what goes out on the air must have been asleep.

    LOL.

    They really should have seen that one coming.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    To all the people analysing this to death and doing their best to look "too cool for school".

    "I've had my fun, and that's all that matters.":D

    Go on The Rage!


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RonMexico wrote: »
    To all the people analysing this to death and doing their best to look "too cool for school".

    "I've had my fun, and that's all that matters.":D

    Go on The Rage!

    Sums up my sentiments better than I ever could.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Mossy Monk wrote: »


    Rage Against The Machine on BBC Radio this morning. The person in charge of what goes out on the air must have been asleep.

    Reminds me of this - class:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I wouldn't even download either of them, Sony can shove their merry Christmas up their holes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Instant Karma


    LOL.

    They really should have seen that one coming.

    LOL i think that the irony was completely lost on that Shelagh woman who cut the feed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    Mossy Monk wrote: »


    Rage Against The Machine on BBC Radio this morning. The person in charge of what goes out on the air must have been asleep.
    I enjoyed every part of that immensely


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Volvagia


    I really like this campaign, that radio clip is hilarious as well, especially the ending "get rid of it!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    So who's currently in the lead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Elektriksheep


    For all the cynics out there and those who are thinking "Why should I bother supporting the campaign?"...

    There are many many reasons why this campaign is a GREAT idea, SOME of which are: IT WOULD BE A LAUGH, it would be funny for "F*** YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME" to be plastered all over the radio for Christmas, and future Christmas albums etc instead of the usual manufactured bullsh**, it makes a statement to people in the UK and elsewhere in the world that consumer demand can make a difference, it makes a statement about people power, it highlights the fact that not everyone likes manufactured karaoke products like Joe McElderry (but everyone has the right and choice to like that sort of thing if they like) and that thousands and thousands of people all over the UK believe in REAL music, lyrics, and vocals that are motivated out of passion, emotion, and inspiration and not motivated by a desire to become famous, rich, or popular.

    Personally, in general, I don't watch TV, I don't watch X-Factor, and I don't pay any attention to the charts. To me, in general, the charts are fairly meaningless and do more to highlight the effectiveness of good (and well-funded) marketing than to represent the country's most popular artists. But on this occasion I feel it's important to take part in this campaign as it's an opportunity to make a bold, loud, and positive statement. AND IT'LL BE F***KING FUNNY.

    AND JUST TO CLEAR THIS UP, Amazon's 29p MP3s DO count towards the charts, btw. I've called Amazon, myself, PERSONALLY, to confirm it (phone number's 0800 496 1081 if anyone wants to confirm for themselves, they're open till 9pm tonight).

    Here's the link to where you can buy it...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001I4NZP4/ref=s9_sima_gw_s0_p340_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=12XA643E13S1ZRS31HV5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294


    COME ON, PEOPLE, IT'S ONLY 29P. GET INVOLVED.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Amazon won't let .ie customers buy it, where else? I don't do itunes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    We're sorry. We could not process your order because of geographical restrictions on the product which you were attempting to purchase. Please refer to the terms of use for this product to determine the geographical restrictions. We apologize for the inconvenience.

    Dang.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭tpotter


    LOL i think that the irony was completely lost on that Shelagh woman who cut the feed.

    I agree, I mean the next line is "I won't do what you tell me," so I can't see how you would not expect that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    This may already be posted, if so apologies.

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2228594104&topic=14800
    If you download the |Nokia Music player, you can use these 4 redeem pin no's to get upto £16.00 worth of free music from the store. So you can dowload Killing In The Name for free!

    This also counts towards the offical chart figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭source


    Number 2 in the Irish charts last week, we need another pust to make it no.1


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,655 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    foinse wrote: »
    Number 2 in the Irish charts last week, we need another pust to make it no.1

    As Sony and Simon Cowell rub their hands with glee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Elektriksheep


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Amazon won't let .ie customers buy it, where else? I don't do itunes.

    Cool, man. Screw itunes :O)

    You can get it from...

    7DIGITAL - track #2
    http://bit.ly/ratm-7digital

    TUNETRIBE - 49P - track #2 - LIVE version (yes it counts)
    http://bit.ly/ratm-tunetribe

    TESCO DIGITAL - 67p - track #2
    http://bit.ly/ratm-tesco

    HMV.COM - 79p (careful - this is track #1)
    http://hmv.com/hmvweb
    http://bit.ly/ratm-hmv

    PLAY.COM - 70p - it's the only track on the page
    http://bit.ly/ratm-play

    WE7 - £1.07p - track #2
    http://bit.ly/ratm-we7

    iTUNES - 99p - track #2
    http://bit.ly/ratm-itunes



    If this is not an incentive, I don't know what is...

    http://www.gigwise.com/news/53956/X-Factors-Joe-McElderry-Rage-Against-The-Machine-Are-Dreadful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Got it earlier on 7digital, now where do i buy a version to affect the Irish charts?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    faceman wrote: »
    As Sony and Simon Cowell rub their hands with glee.

    *sigh* This isn't about sticking it to Simon Cowell or sony. Plenty of people have pointed this out. It's mainly for the craic.

    "They wouldn't get through to boot camp on The X Factor"

    Yeah, 6 albums and numerous tours and awards are nowhere near as important as boot camp on x-factor.


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