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The dole is too much!!

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    #812
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    Dudess wrote: »
    If you had any morals you'd cut yourself off.

    Suicide? Bit dramatic, isn't it?


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    #813
    Snowie
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    Gabrielle Prehistoric Punch wrote: »
    Suicide? Bit dramatic, isn't it?


    any one else think of mash ?


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    #814
    Dudess
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    whatdoicare wrote: »
    What shall I live on?
    Duh... Whatever the honorable, noble folk who have jobs and preach to you from their high-horses would live on - e.g. self respect and decency. Haven't you learnt anything from this thread?!


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    #815
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    I think Dudess is drunk... on money she didn't earn.


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    #816
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Dudess wrote: »
    Duh... Whatever the honorable, noble folk who have jobs and preach to you from their high-horses would live on - e.g. self respect and decency. Haven't you learnt anything from this thread?!
    Where do I sign up for these High horses? Is there a scheme??


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    #817
    Dudess
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    Gabrielle Prehistoric Punch wrote: »
    I think Dudess is drunk... on money she didn't earn.
    Indeed I am not! :mad: I'm not one of those dole types - I have work in the morning (oh wait, I'm posting on a message board at 2:30 on a Monday night).

    Nah, being unemployed sucks, whatdoicare. Best of luck with the job hunt. :)

    Oh and people who call those in your situation "spongers" are talking through their arse - and clearly have never been unemployed. :)


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    #818
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Dudess wrote: »
    Indeed I am not! :mad: I'm not one of those dole types - I have work in the morning (oh wait, I'm posting on a message board at 2:30 on a Monday night).

    Nah, being unemployed sucks, whatdoicare. Best of luck with the job hunt. :)

    Oh and people who call those in your situation "spongers" are talking through their arse - and clearly have never been unemployed. :)
    I still want a high horse....I was gonna call him "Bob"! I could ride him into interviews!


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    #819
    sunnyside
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    Snow-Monkey wrote: »
    75 rent
    10 esb
    15 heeting oil
    60 food
    10 tabaco
    10 credit for a crappy 3 g internet connection
    10 fuel for my car
    5 for foot ball
    4 euros left.
    I treat my self to a coffe onece a week
    5 call credit

    ...

    Could you reduce the food bill to €40-45. With all the special offers around at the moment it should be possible. Then you would have a few euro for a pint or a cinema trip.

    I have that 3 internet thing too but on a monthly bill it's €19.99 so that would be half the cost of paying weekly.

    How do you pay for things like toiletries, car tax and insurance?

    People like you need the Christmas bonus but I know others who don't.


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    #820
    caseyann
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    sunnyside wrote: »
    Could you reduce the food bill to €40-45. With all the special offers around at the moment it should be possible. Then you would have a few euro for a pint or a cinema trip.

    I have that 3 internet thing too but on a monthly bill it's €19.99 so that would be half the cost of paying weekly.

    How do you pay for things like toiletries, car tax and insurance?

    People like you need the Christmas bonus but I know others who don't.


    Have you looked at what the price reductions on necessary foods are?Any meat reduced in shops has a use by date of 1 to 2 days if lucky.Others are pizza.You have to eat other stuff with te meats and also need to remain healthy,otherwise ill and in the doctors. So you suggest that this person should reduce their food money? Bag of potatoes last only couple of days same as with majority of veg unless frozen and how good is that for you?
    I am sorry but that comment makes no sense what so ever.Also then they need shampoo and toiletries.


    From what i have heard there is no christmas bonus anymore that should make a few people happy.


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    #821
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    I'd love a job- I have too much education to get on a fas course, too high a fetac level to get any grant or BTE allowance on any other course anywhere and have just been told I'd have to start from scratch to get a degree as this is their new "policy" to discourage people skipping years (ie new policy for more money!)- so three years of getting qualifications I already have before I can do that final degree year and all of that with no grant or BTE allowance!
    I send out C.V.s on a weekly basis and could fill a book with rejection letters....including the very prestigious cleaning lady job, supermacs job and my personal fave - rentokil exterminater!
    I hate being on the dole, it feels like my life is on hold- why the heck would anyone be happy with this life?? I wish everyday that just one C.V. would lead to an interview and then onto a paying job- I don't care if it ends up the same as the dole or even less- I'd do it, just to have my life back!
    And no...it's nowhere near enough to live on.

    That would make sense get off the dole to live a life of misery even more because you are working and still cant live.:confused:


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    #822
    major bill
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    whatdoicare wrote: »
    I'd love a job- I have too much education to get on a fas course, too high a fetac level to get any grant or BTE allowance on any other course anywhere and have just been told I'd have to start from scratch to get a degree as this is their new "policy" to discourage people skipping years (ie new policy for more money!)- so three years of getting qualifications I already have before I can do that final degree year and all of that with no grant or BTE allowance!
    I send out C.V.s on a weekly basis and could fill a book with rejection letters....including the very prestigious cleaning lady job, supermacs job and my personal fave - rentokil exterminater!
    I hate being on the dole, it feels like my life is on hold- why the heck would anyone be happy with this life?? I wish everyday that just one C.V. would lead to an interview and then onto a paying job- I don't care if it ends up the same as the dole or even less- I'd do it, just to have my life back!
    And no...it's nowhere near enough to live on.

    good post i feel your pain!!! its a very boring life been on the dole and not good for your mental state!!!!


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    #823
    Macca07
    Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    I recently started a job in Dublin after being unemployed and on the dole since I left college in May. Now I was getting my 200 a week plus rent allowance, and lets just say, I think I was actually coming out with more money a week that I am working 40 hours a week. And thats not because the dole is too much, its due to the fact that companies now don't need to pay massive wages for someone to take the job. But I wanted this job, I would've done it for less money, as I have no industrial experience. The life on the dole is not a life, I was extremely bored and depressed for the last few months


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    #824
    Stark
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    Bit of a personal question so feel free not to answer: What kind of salary are you on since you took the job? I'd be curious to know what you actually have to earn these days so your take-home pay matches dole+allowances.


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    #825
    ven0m
    Registered Users Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    Irishcrx wrote: »
    Am I the only one that thinks the dole is far too high in this country, why would anyone want to get a job even if there was any. I have a mate I live it and he has more bloody money than I do and I work 45 hours a week. He has his rent payed for him by the government and pays 30 euro a month himself, and then the extra 200 a week as normal and this is without lifting a finger all he does all day is sleep, eat, smoke and eat and complain about being busy if he has to walk 5 mins to the shop at some point in the next 4 hours.

    Do you think the government will be forced to cut the dole payments if the national debt and unemployment keeps rising?

    Dole is too much - really .... €204 per week for dole, €342.40 for minimum wage .......

    My missus was made redundant in February, I'm on a way below average wage, & she couldn't get dole for over 6 months, with us absolutely struggling to keep a roof over our heads. By the time she did get dole, it's still a struggle, especially with trips to & from interviews & stupid retarded job agencies that come to nothing.

    I love how people say 'the dole is too much' & yet have zero regard for real people struggling to get by because they cannot see past the bloody scroungers & whole families of people who refuse to go looking for work because they abuse our benefits system & we've a government who refuses to engage in means testing OR the kind of benefits system the UK operates, where unless you can demonstrably prove you're seeking work, you ain't getting jack ****.

    We've over 450,000 people unemployed - not all of them are unemployed by choice, or through faults of their own - greedy people charging obscene prices for services, & an even greedier set of banks who closed their wagons in, & those who property speculated on the back of handshakes caused this, NOT people who have become part of that growing figure.

    The solution here is to penalise those who caused the problems & let them take their share of the burdon, not to further penalise honest, hard working, long contributing tax payers who found themselves jobless because of a shower of greedy buggers!

    Each day I see my other half get even more dejected with people refusing to inform her why she is not getting called for interviews, or what was wrong with her CV, no-one giving her even the time of day to even help her get a job, despite all the efforts she puts in & the tears of feeling useless, & the efforts she goes to with agencies, interviews at agencies & everything else, & what's worse is I'm not even in a postion financially to say ''here's some money, start your own business.''

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


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    #826
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    Dudess wrote: »
    If you had any morals you'd cut yourself off. I don't care if it's your only source of income while you frantically look for jobs in a tiny pool along with countless others - you are sponging off the state.
    Dudess wrote: »
    Duh... Whatever the honorable, noble folk who have jobs and preach to you from their high-horses would live on - e.g. self respect and decency. Haven't you learnt anything from this thread?!

    I was preparing myself for a permanant ban, and then you said the following:
    Dudess wrote: »
    Indeed I am not! :mad: I'm not one of those dole types - I have work in the morning (oh wait, I'm posting on a message board at 2:30 on a Monday night).

    Nah, being unemployed sucks, whatdoicare. Best of luck with the job hunt. :)

    Oh and people who call those in your situation "spongers" are talking through their arse - and clearly have never been unemployed. :)

    You had me there for a moment ;)


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    #827
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Jeez, you're not the only person who didn't see the irony of my first comment - thought it was pretty bleedin' obvious. :)


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    #828
    sunnyside
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    caseyann wrote: »
    Have you looked at what the price reductions on necessary foods are?Any meat reduced in shops has a use by date of 1 to 2 days if lucky.Others are pizza.You have to eat other stuff with te meats and also need to remain healthy,otherwise ill and in the doctors. So you suggest that this person should reduce their food money? Bag of potatoes last only couple of days same as with majority of veg unless frozen and how good is that for you?
    I am sorry but that comment makes no sense what so ever.Also then they need shampoo and toiletries.


    .


    Most people posting in the €10 a day thread seem to think that €10 a day for food is more than necessary.

    I remember maybe a year ago pre-recession people on here were telling students and people with debt problems that you could eat for €20 a week.


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    #829
    Stark
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    sunnyside wrote: »
    Most people posting in the €10 a day thread seem to think that €10 a day for food is more than necessary.

    I remember maybe a year ago pre-recession people on here were telling students and people with debt problems that you could eat for €20 a week.

    Where's that thread? Could do with some of that advice myself :)


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    #830
    Macca07
    Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    Stark wrote: »
    Bit of a personal question so feel free not to answer: What kind of salary are you on since you took the job? I'd be curious to know what you actually have to earn these days so your take-home pay matches dole+allowances.

    OK, dole was 204.30 a week, rent allowance covered rent every week, so that leaves me with 204.30 a week.

    New job, 1500 a month, works out at 375 a week, rent is 90 a week, so thats 295 a week.

    But its in Dublin, was living in Cork, more expensive, and I'm travelling back to Cork every weekend as well


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    #831
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    Stark wrote: »
    Where's that thread? Could do with some of that advice myself :)

    Dude, use the search funct... oh... wait... :P
    sunnyside wrote: »
    Most people posting in the €10 a day thread seem to think that €10 a day for food is more than necessary.

    I remember maybe a year ago pre-recession people on here were telling students and people with debt problems that you could eat for €20 a week.

    As a student I could live on 25 euro a week. I shopped in aldi, got great deals.
    Macca07 wrote: »
    OK, dole was 204.30 a week, rent allowance covered rent every week, so that leaves me with 204.30 a week.

    New job, 1500 a month, works out at 375 a week, rent is 90 a week, so thats 295 a week.

    But its in Dublin, was living in Cork, more expensive, and I'm travelling back to Cork every weekend as well

    You got full allowance for your rent? I thought you had to pay for the first 24 or something?

    295 a week after rent isn't bad to be honest. I would welcome that with open pockets :)


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    sunnyside
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    Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: »
    295 a week after rent isn't bad to be honest. I would welcome that with open pockets :)

    Yes but it's only €90 extra for 35 or 40 hours work. A lot of people would choose to live on less and not work.


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    #833
    caseyann
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    Macca07 wrote: »
    OK, dole was 204.30 a week, rent allowance covered rent every week, so that leaves me with 204.30 a week.

    New job, 1500 a month, works out at 375 a week, rent is 90 a week, so thats 295 a week.

    But its in Dublin, was living in Cork, more expensive, and I'm travelling back to Cork every weekend as well

    What about bills,Is it all included in your rent?

    Still more than you had on dole congratulations on new job hope things get better for you from now :)


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    #834
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    sunnyside wrote: »
    Most people posting in the €10 a day thread seem to think that €10 a day for food is more than necessary.

    I remember maybe a year ago pre-recession people on here were telling students and people with debt problems that you could eat for €20 a week.


    Ten euro a day on food is enough no one saying its not,But trying to eat healthy on 35 45 euro a week crazy.And i have lived on that and not ate for some days trying to do that.And my food wouldn't be any way at all extravagant.

    Also some people cant get to Aldis ;)


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    #835
    caseyann
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    Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: »

    As a student I could live on 25 euro a week. I shopped in aldi, got great deals.


    Were you eating them canned foods and processed crap :D


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    #836
    thatsa spicy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭thatsa spicy


    I currently spend 20- 25 quid a week on food, as a student. If necessity compelled me, I could get by on a tenner without going hungry; only thing is theres only so much weetabix and porridge a man can take!


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    #837
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    thatsa spicy wrote: »
    I currently spend 20- 25 quid a week on food, as a student. If necessity compelled me, I could get by on a tenner without going hungry; only thing is theres only so much weetabix and porridge a man can take!



    Tell us what is your grocery shopping list that you manage to live on that much a week.And are staying healthy?


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    #838
    thebman
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    thatsa spicy wrote: »
    I currently spend 20- 25 quid a week on food, as a student. If necessity compelled me, I could get by on a tenner without going hungry; only thing is theres only so much weetabix and porridge a man can take!

    Yeah so your suggesting everyone eat Aldi noodles every day of the week lol.

    Or cardboard pizza's with no nutritional values.

    I remember getting a tesco pizza once (not branded Tesco but it was the cheapest one of the shelf) to see what it was like.

    I got half way through it before I felt like I was going to throw up and had to stop eating and it wasn't the actual taste of the sauce or toppings which wasn't all that bad.

    It was the base which tasted felt like it was made from some weird artificial material not meant to be consumed by humans.


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    #839
    caseyann
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    thebman wrote: »
    Yeah so your suggesting everyone eat Aldi noodles every day of the week lol.

    Or cardboard pizza's with no nutritional values.

    I remember getting a tesco pizza once (not branded Tesco but it was the cheapest one of the shelf) to see what it was like.

    I got half way through it before I felt like I was going to throw up and had to stop eating and it wasn't the actual taste of the sauce or toppings which wasn't all that bad.

    It was the base which tasted felt like it was made from some weird artificial material not meant to be consumed by humans.

    Its food eat it whether you like it or not :D


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    #840
    thatsa spicy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭thatsa spicy


    caseyann wrote: »
    Tell us what is your grocery shopping list that you manage to live on that much a week.And are staying healthy?

    Certainly.

    Breakfast:
    Box of 48 st bernards brand weetabix-- 3.00 (lasts about 3 weeks, so 1.00 a week)
    2 x pint cartons of milk = 69 x 2 = 1.38 euro a week
    SUBTOTAL: 2.38 approx per week

    Lunch:
    Hovis Granary brown bread---1.59
    Wafer thin ham (not cheapest brand but not dearest)--3.00
    small tub low-low butter used over 6 weeks---30 cent a week perhaps
    SUBTOTAL: 4.90 approx per week

    Dinners:
    Chicken goujons---tesco, 2 packs for 4.00 euro
    Birds eye potato waffles-- 1.30
    Bag of pasta shells-- 1.99
    2 x jars of pasta sauce-- 2x 84 cent = 1.60 euro
    Bag of frozen veg, tesco-- 1.20
    SUBTOTAL: 10.10 euro approx per week

    Other food:
    24 bags walkers cheese and onion in tesco, been eating them the last 2 weeks!--- 2.80 euro i think it was = 1.40 per week
    coca cola--trying to give up but,--3.00 for 2 x 2litres
    SUBTOTAL: 4.40 euro aprox per week

    I should say I have plenty of tea bags, red sauce, barbeque sauce and sugar that I took up to college before the start of lectures!
    Also, I never buy bottled water, drink from the taps.

    TOTAL 21.78...hmm, and I could knock 3 quid off that straight away by giving up coke!! :o

    Actually, just reading over that list made me realise how terrible my diet is!!


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    #841
    thatsa spicy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭thatsa spicy


    thebman wrote: »
    It was the base which tasted felt like it was made from some weird artificial material not meant to be consumed by humans.

    I laughed! :D


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