Hate the English??

ejmaztec · 05-10-2009 01:35PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

Is that the best you can come up with? Seems to be a trend on this thread. If you can't think of an articulate logical response type something random with a face and people will think you're being all "ironic".

Fail.

It's no worse than coming up with some statement and not being able to back it up with verifiable facts and figures.

Your post is "ironic".

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 02:33PM

RiverWilde wrote: »

Ah yeah just the response I was expecting, 'if ya don't like it here ye can feck off.' It's okay that the problems with this country are endemic ... 'the difference is, 'we're Irish!'

Get off the stage.

Riv

Well it is pretty logical. You don't like a place why "punish" yourself? There are two types of people in this country, those who are striving to make things better and those who sit on the sideline complaining and slagging everything off. To be honest we can do without the latter.

I read in one of your posts that you'd prefer if Ireland was part of the UK...LOL That tells me everything I need to know about you... You're not the type pf person I want to be communicating with in any way.

Irelands trying to move forward and anyone who is not willing to roll up their sleeves and dig in should, as you put it, feck off. Traitors should do the same (not naming any names)...

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 02:38PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It's no worse than coming up with some statement and not being able to back it up with verifiable facts and figures.

Your post is "ironic".

And of course ALL your posts are backed up with facts and figures :rolleyes:. I've read through some of them and I don't think you're in any position to judge anybody lol

BTW how many facts and figures do you expect to find when you are participating in forum " do the Irish hate the English?" Its hardly bio-technology ffs.

Get off your high horse

robinph · 05-10-2009 02:43PM

Are you aware of how contradictory the last few of your posts have been?

Ireland - oh forgive them for they know not what they do, it's all in the past, they didn't mean it.

England - hate, hate, evil, evil, rant, never forget, they are out to get me......etc

RiverWilde · 05-10-2009 02:56PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

Well it is pretty logical. You don't like a place why "punish" yourself? There are two types of people in this country, those who are striving to make things better and those who sit on the sideline complaining and slagging everything off. To be honest we can do without the latter.

I read in one of your posts that you'd prefer if Ireland was part of the UK...LOL That tells me everything I need to know about you... You're not the type pf person I want to be communicating with in any way.

Irelands trying to move forward and anyone who is not willing to roll up their sleeves and dig in should, as you put it, feck off. Traitors should do the same (not naming any names)...

No, whether or not Ireland is part of the UK is much of a muchness for me. Considering what we've done with the country since independence and the bitter internecine warfare that followed. It's been a time of wasted potential. We could have built a country based on tolerance and fairness. Instead we have what we have, which frankly does not inspire confidence.

Riv

Dudess · 05-10-2009 03:07PM

Ah in fairness, while there are some improvements to be made (and at least we have the freedom to moan about them) Ireland is hardly that bad a place to live overall. The way it can be depicted on these pages as some sort of banana republic - I've even seen it compared to China because of the censorship thing.
Frankly, that's some funny sh1t. And more seriously, it's a bit of an insult to those who actually live in repressed societies - real repressed societies.

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:08PM

robinph wrote: »

Are you aware of how contradictory the last few of your posts have been?

Ireland - oh forgive them for they know not what they do, it's all in the past, they didn't mean it.

England - hate, hate, evil, evil, rant, never forget, they are out to get me......etc

LOL what a clever guy you are. Did you not see I pointed out this hypocrisy in an earlier post. That was my whole point!

So I assume you also agree that all the people hating Ireland for its past, but refuse to critique England for its past are hypocrites too???

ejmaztec · 05-10-2009 03:25PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

And of course ALL your posts are backed up with facts and figures :rolleyes:. I've read through some of them and I don't think you're in any position to judge anybody lol

BTW how many facts and figures do you expect to find when you are participating in forum " do the Irish hate the English?" Its hardly bio-technology ffs.

Get off your high horse

Another mature response from Rondolfus.:pac:

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:26PM

RiverWilde wrote: »

No, whether or not Ireland is part of the UK is much of a muchness for me. Considering what we've done with the country since independence and the bitter internecine warfare that followed. It's been a time of wasted potential. We could have built a country based on tolerance and fairness. Instead we have what we have, which frankly does not inspire confidence.

Riv

It is clear that you have absolutley no sense of national pride at all. You come across ultra negative, which is not really the type of person people like being around. Its also not the type of person that gets things done. So if your so bitter about life at the moment, perhaps you should look inwards instead of blaming everything on the people/country around you.

Also If you think things would have been better under British rule, then I think your clutching at straws. Ireland has done pretty well for itself as a young small open economy. You talk about equality and fairness??? Do you think that existed in Britain prior to Ireland breaking away from the UK??

If independence never happened the North East of the country controlled by "loyal British subjects" would have continued sucking the resources from the rest. We would have endured a longer period of borderline poverty as the British, continued a subtle policy of discrimination. This is turn would have given the Catholic church even more a strangled hold over the vulnerable catholic people for a longer period of time. And you can guarantee some little trun-coat Irishmen would gladly sell out their own people and serve the crown of Britain. It is these "Irishmen" that would have been given positions of power. Nightmare scenario.

ejmaztec · 05-10-2009 03:29PM

robinph wrote: »

Are you aware of how contradictory the last few of your posts have been?

Ireland - oh forgive them for they know not what they do, it's all in the past, they didn't mean it.

England - hate, hate, evil, evil, rant, never forget, they are out to get me......etc

I had to assume that they were written by at least two people, each contradicting the others on the same point.

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:32PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Another mature response from Rondolfus.:pac:

LOL here we go again. The old " I can't think of a decent response so i'll try say something really smart and use a smiley face" routine.

Yes ejmaztec , that'll really get the people on your side. The wit, the sarcasm, the downright recklessness! Please , master of the smiley face, teach me your ways.

Fratton Fred · 05-10-2009 03:32PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

If independence never happened the North East of the country controlled by "loyal British subjects" would have continued sucking the resources from the rest. We would have endured a longer period of borderline poverty as the British, continued a subtle policy of discrimination. This is turn would have given the Catholic church even more a strangled hold over the vulnerable catholic people for a longer period of time. And you can guarantee some little trun-coat Irishmen would gladly sell out their own people and serve the crown of Britain. It is these "Irishmen" that would have been given positions of power. Nightmare scenario.

At least Dublin would have had a decent public transport system.

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:35PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

I had to assume that they were written by at least two people, each contradicting the others on the same point.

Good idea ejmaztec. Try to butter up some other posters. Evidently I'm too much for you do deal with alone. Maybe you can point out those witty little quips. I'm sure they'd appreciate them and think you're really cool.

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:36PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

At least Dublin would have had a decent public transport system.

We'd have an even better one if Germany had won WW2

robinph · 05-10-2009 03:39PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

So if your so bitter about life at the moment, perhaps you should look inwards instead of blaming everything on the people/country around you.

Hang on, is this really Rondolfus or has someone hijacked their account, they now seem to be criticising themselves?

Best add in a smiley now for added effect... but which one ... :pac:

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:43PM

robinph wrote: »

Hang on, is this really Rondolfus or has someone hijacked their account, they now seem to be criticising themselves?

Best add in a smiley now for added effect... but which one ... :pac:

Judging by your grasp of that post you should have used

RiverWilde · 05-10-2009 03:46PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

It is clear that you have absolutley no sense of national pride at all. You come across ultra negative, which is not really the type of person people like being around. Its also not the type of person that gets things done. So if your so bitter about life at the moment, perhaps you should look inwards instead of blaming everything on the people/country around you.

Also If you think things would have been better under British rule, then I think your clutching at straws. Ireland has done pretty well for itself as a young small open economy. You talk about equality and fairness??? Do you think that existed in Britain prior to Ireland breaking away from the UK??

If independence never happened the North East of the country controlled by "loyal British subjects" would have continued sucking the resources from the rest. We would have endured a longer period of borderline poverty as the British, continued a subtle policy of discrimination. This is turn would have given the Catholic church even more a strangled hold over the vulnerable catholic people for a longer period of time. And you can guarantee some little trun-coat Irishmen would gladly sell out their own people and serve the crown of Britain. It is these "Irishmen" that would have been given positions of power. Nightmare scenario.

Better to be badly ruled by an Irish govt, is that it? I just think we can do better than that. What we have now is a political/business class that looks after itself and in consultation with the RC church rules in their favour. To hell with the rest of the country.

If you're saying was society divided prior to independence, if anything it's even more divided now. Those of us who want open, honest, equitable govt. which legislates impartially and allows individual citizens to make up their own mind and what we currently have. A govt. that is terrified to make difficult decisons because of the interference of 'interested groups.'

Considering what people went through to gain independence, what we have now is a pale shadow of what we could have. By that I mean a society that respects difference and legislates and provides for the whole of society. Not just those who bow to those in positions of authority.

Riv

Noffles · 05-10-2009 03:47PM

I wonder if there's a similar thread to this somewhere in the UK... "Hate the irish".. I also wonder would it be filled with as much bile...?

ejmaztec · 05-10-2009 03:49PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

Good idea ejmaztec. Try to butter up some other posters. Evidently I'm too much for you do deal with alone. Maybe you can point out those witty little quips. I'm sure they'd appreciate them and think you're really cool.

There's no point in trying to handle a person who is obviously arguing with himself.

You continue to make incorrect assumptions.

I can't help making witty quips when I come across something that I find particularly amusing. Your posts remind me of the Oozlum bird.

jacool · 05-10-2009 03:57PM

If there is one English person you like, then you can't hate the English.
If you like Alan Smith, Robert Smith, Sydney Smith or The Smiths (all born in England) or if like me you've lived in England and met a few nice people, none called Smith though(?), then that's it.
Feel free to insert Kelly Brook, Wayne Rooney, Harry Enfield, Ricky Gervais, Queen Elizabeth II, Lester Piggott or whoever. The last named is a huge sporting hero of mine, the first named the one most linked with the word "insert".

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 03:57PM

RiverWilde wrote: »

Better to be badly ruled by an Irish govt, is that it? I just think we can do better than that. What we have now is a political/business class that looks after itself and in consultation with the RC church rules in their favour. To hell with the rest of the country.

If you're saying was society divided prior to independence, if anything it's even more divided now. Those of us who want open, honest, equitable govt. which legislates impartially and allows individual citizens to make up their own mind and what we currently have. A govt. that is terrified to make difficult decisons because of the interference of 'interested groups.'

Considering what people went through to gain independence, what we have now is a pale shadow of what we could have. By that I mean a society that respects difference and legislates and provides for the whole of society. Not just those who bow to those in positions of authority.

Riv

I understand your concerns. And I agree with many of them. However, I don't think there is such thing as a perfect Government. I am totally pissed off with the current crop in charge. Thats the nature of democracy. Hopefully the next government will be better.

If you think they have it better in Britain then your wrong. Gordon Brown is just a more polished version of Cowen. Both unelected. Both fools. In the same way Cameron is a shallow little worm like Enda Kenny.

But there are people trying to make changes. You shouldn't just throw in the towel and say "everything is crap , we're all doomed, lets steep in this bath of self pity." Ireland is a great country with great people, and it will overcome anything thats put in its path.

Rondolfus · 05-10-2009 04:12PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

There's no point in trying to handle a person who is obviously arguing with himself.

You continue to make incorrect assumptions.

I can't help making witty quips when I come across something that I find particularly amusing. Your posts remind me of the Oozlum bird.

I have no idea what a OOzlum bird is. Must be something only the "cool" kids know about.

"Incorrect assumptions" incorrect according to who?? You and your smiley faces??

Your posts remind me of David Brent for some reason... in particular David Brent doing his dance... wonder why

Fratton Fred · 05-10-2009 04:13PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

We'd have an even better one if Germany had won WW2

and saved a lot of money by not having to make all the modifications for disabled people.:rolleyes:

Dozen Wicked Words · 05-10-2009 04:16PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

I have no idea what a OOzlum bird is. Must be something only the "cool" kids know about.

The Oozlum bird is a folkloric creature which, when scared, flies in ever decreasing circles until it disappears up its own ar*ehole.

ejmaztec · 05-10-2009 04:36PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

I have no idea what a OOzlum bird is. Must be something only the "cool" kids know about.

"Incorrect assumptions" incorrect according to who?? You and your smiley faces??

Your posts remind me of David Brent for some reason... in particular David Brent doing his dance... wonder why

........................:cool:.........:p

..and in keeping with the tone of your posts: na na ne na na.

furiousox · 05-10-2009 05:00PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

and saved a lot of money by not having to make all the modifications for disabled people.:rolleyes:

ls that you tommy tiernan?? :pac:

Ridley · 05-10-2009 05:05PM

Noffles wrote: »

I wonder if there's a similar thread to this somewhere in the UK... "Hate the irish".. I also wonder would it be filled with as much bile...?

If there is, it'll be on a far-right, nationalist website.

Namlub · 05-10-2009 06:40PM

Rondolfus wrote: »

LOL here we go again. The old " I can't think of a decent response so i'll try say something really smart and use a smiley face" routine.

Yes ejmaztec , that'll really get the people on your side. The wit, the sarcasm, the downright recklessness! Please , master of the smiley face, teach me your ways.

See, I was going to point out that you were doing the exact same thing, but I noticed you haven't included smileys. So it's cool.

Rebelheart · 05-10-2009 07:20PM

Britain never had a right to rule Ireland.

Britain does not have a right to rule Ireland.

Britain never will have a right to rule Ireland.

By their deeds you shall know them.

Noffles · 05-10-2009 07:23PM

Rebelheart wrote: »

Britain never had a right to rule Ireland.

Britain does not have a right to rule Ireland.

Britain never will have a right to rule Ireland.

By their deeds you shall know them.

How enigmatic... just reminds me yet again to try and move back asap.

Hate the English??

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