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Thomas Cook Grafton Street store occupied by the workers

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    #242
    uprising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    holyjoe wrote: »
    You wont mind if me and 27 of my mates take over your house next week for a few days so. excellent.

    sure its not as if we would be breaking the law and its not as if you can call the guards as you dont want to be accused of assisting the flute holding! :P

    I seriously doubt you have 27 mates, maybe you have plenty of cyber mates who seem to post here also, and your right, I wouldnt call the gardai, I'd drag you out myself.
    And dont confuse a sit in protest with breaking and entering, two totally different things.


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    #243
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    uprising wrote: »
    YES ignoring some higher than high judge is good, it shows that people won't be pushed around so easily by some stupid wig wearing fool who's main goal is to uphold the "rights" of his elite brethren.

    Who appoints the judges then?


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    #244
    uprising
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    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    I am betting that you are wearing your tin foil hat right now.


    Ohh God..........................................................

    You must be psychic...

    I dont even know why I replied to such craap, just shows your mental state and intelligence or lack of.

    Enough said.


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    #245
    Theta
    Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    This thread just turned into a comedy.


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    #246
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    uprising wrote: »
    And dont confuse a sit in protest with breaking and entering, two totally different things.

    Trespassing and eh... trespassing....

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #247
    fitz0
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    uprising wrote: »
    Break what law?, the law that says pisss on me and I'll accept it thank you.
    The fuccking elite look after their own, we're just the bottom of the pile as far as I and they can see, and sooner or later it will catch up on you too, but you'll probably hold their flutes for them while they pisss all over you.
    Yeah! Down with the Lisbon Treaty!


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    #248
    MagicMarker
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    uprising wrote: »
    Ohh God..........................................................

    You must be psychic...

    I dont even know why I replied to such craap, just shows your mental state and intelligence or lack of.

    Enough said.
    You're funny, you're a funny guy!!


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    #249
    JONJO THE MISER
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    MMM where have i heard the name uprising before? aww yes last week when the poster was saying its okay to beat up people you dont agree with. No affliation my eye more than likely a radical socialist:rolleyes:


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    #250
    TwoShedsJackson
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    Sully wrote: »
    Avril Boyne was nursing a healthy baby girl, Chelsea,

    Skanger detected.


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    #251
    Morlar
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    This thread is ridiculous. These people are getting redundancy terms that are either equal to what everyone else here would get or BETTER than what everyone else here would get (obviously private sector workers - not public sector).

    So their company did not give them a lot of advance notice, I know many people who are informed of a redundancy by going into work one day and getting a tap on the shoulder then are escorted from the building within about 15 minutes. I do not see that the Thomas Cook people have anything to complain about in comparison to the rest of the private sector.


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    #252
    uprising
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    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Trespassing and eh... trespassing....


    Ok so these protesters are no better than say a person who kicks in your door in the middle of the night?. Is that what your saying?.

    It must have been a long week for you ikky while I was banned, but dont worry I'm back for now, and by the way I didnt re-reg lastweek after I was banned as you seemed to suggest.


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    #253
    MagicMarker
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    uprising wrote: »
    Ok so these protesters are no better than say a person who kicks in your door in the middle of the night?. Is that what your saying?.

    You know, I don't think he is.


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    #254
    Julesie
    Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭Julesie


    Having read through all of this thread I'm still no clearer as to what exactly the workers were protesting about.

    Which of the following was it?

    a. The unprofitable Irish operations were being closed down even though Thomas Cook as a whole is profitable

    b. The store was closing immediately rather than in a month as previously planned (it seems they were getting paid for this month regardless)

    c. The CEO of Thomas Cook received a large bonus earlier in the year and some how that should be reflected in their redundancy package (i.e. more than the 5 additional weeks they are already getting)

    d. All of the above

    e. Something else entirely

    Seriously, can anybody on the pro worker side just clarify that for me?


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    #255
    uprising
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    TwoShedsJackson wrote: »
    Skanger detected.

    WTF?, A woman calls her baby Chelsea and your automatic skanger alert monitor goes crazy, you are seriously deluded, do you know the lady in question?.


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    #256
    Theta
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    Clearly sarcasim is wasted on you and Chelsea would be a stereotypical chavy name in the UK


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    #257
    fitz0
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    Julesie wrote: »
    c. The CEO of Thomas Cook received a large bonus earlier in the year and some how that should be reflected in their redundancy package (i.e. more than the 5 additional weeks they are already getting)
    Seems to me that the CEO's pay rise ws reflected in the redundancy package, as in the extra few weeks over the 2 statutory weeks.


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    #258
    humanji
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    uprising wrote: »
    WTF?, A woman calls her baby Chelsea and your automatic skanger alert monitor goes crazy, you are seriously deluded, do you know the lady in question?.
    Some people broke the law and you automatically label them heroes fighting Da Man. Funny thing, life.


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    #259
    uprising
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    irlmarc wrote: »
    Clearly sarcasim is wasted on you and Chelsea would be a stereotypical chavy name in the UK

    Well for your information we are not in the UK, and anyway why call a woman that just had a baby a skanger because of the name she happened to call her child?, sarcasim or not I wonder if 2sheds would actually say it to the father of the child, I doubt it.


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    #260
    Theta
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    Ah im sure he would give it a go. Why not she prob is a skanger.


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    #261
    Davei141
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    uprising wrote: »
    Well for your information we are not in the UK, and anyway why call a woman that just had a baby a skanger because of the name she happened to call her child?, sarcasim or not I wonder if 2sheds would actually say it to the father of the child, I doubt it.

    Well if you were the father he wouldn't. Wouldn't want lump hammer marks on his face would he.


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    #262
    orourkeda
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    Have Thomas Cook paid the correct amount of redundancy as required by law? If so, why are their former employees complaining?


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    #263
    3rdDegree
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    orourkeda wrote: »
    Have Thomas Cook paid the correct amount of redundancy as required by law? If so, why are their former employees complaining?

    Yes, and then a lot more. The required amount is 2 weeks pay for every year worked. TC have paid 5 weeks for every year. I think TC are being generous and if I were them, I'd just give workers the min amount and screw them. They are living in la-la land looking for 8 weeks. When I think of all the people who have lost their jobs recently and would be delighted with 5 weeks per year, it makes my blood boil. Greedy bastards!


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    #264
    orourkeda
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    3rdDegree wrote: »
    Yes, and then a lot more. The required amount is 2 weeks pay for every year worked. TC have paid 5 weeks for every year. I think TC are being generous and if I were them, I'd just give workers the min amount and screw them. They are living in la-la land looking for 8 weeks. When I think of all the people who have lost their jobs recently and would be delighted with 5 weeks per year, it makes my blood boil. Greedy bastards!

    On that basis, is it fair to say that they haven't a leg to stand on and their grievance has no foundation?


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    #265
    mickoneill30
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    orourkeda wrote: »
    On that basis, is it fair to say that they haven't a leg to stand on and their grievance has no foundation?

    On that basis I'd say any company in the future would just give the minimum required.

    Why bother giving 5 weeks redundancy if you can just give 2 weeks redundancy and get the same union reps screaming murder and the same bad publicity?


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    #266
    orourkeda
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    mickoneill30 wrote: »
    On that basis I'd say any company in the future would just give the minimum required.

    Why bother giving 5 weeks redundancy if you can just give 2 weeks redundancy and get the same union reps screaming murder and the same bad publicity?

    Then the problem is with the law. Is meeting the legal requirements a bad thing for a company? I doubt PR is foremost in anybody's mind at present.


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    #267
    uprising
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    irlmarc wrote: »
    Ah im sure he would give it a go. Why not she prob is a skanger.


    Ohh I've had enough of this crap, won't be getting provoked into another ban.


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    #268
    Mossy Monk
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    uprising wrote: »
    I dont even know why I replied to such craap, just shows your mental state and intelligence or lack of.

    No my friend. Lack of intelligence comes out with crap like the following
    uprising wrote:
    it shows that people won't be pushed around so easily by some stupid wig wearing fool who's main goal is to uphold the "rights" of his elite brethren.

    Fight on with your struggle against the man.


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    #269
    miju
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    uprising wrote: »
    And dont confuse a sit in protest with breaking and entering, two totally different things.

    well in the eyes of the high court they are clearly not and I hope you dont mind if I value their opinion over yours :p:p:p:p


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    #270
    Red Sleeping Beauty
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    damoz wrote: »
    Can someone add a poll here to see exactly how much support the "workers" have. Im guessing by reading this thread that its a minority.

    Don't assume this website or this forum or this thread represents everyone in Ireland . History repeats itself.
    Ste.phen wrote: »
    Would illegally occupying the premises and starting an illegal protest outside constitute "gross misconduct"? If it does, they might get away with not needing to pay any redundancy at all...

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

    An "illegal" protest ? What would that be ? An illegal protest as opposed to a legal sanctioned protest ? Kinda defeats the purpose of a protest if you've to seek permission from the state.


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    #271
    BroomBurner
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    3rdDegree wrote: »
    Yes, and then a lot more. The required amount is 2 weeks pay for every year worked. TC have paid 5 weeks for every year. I think TC are being generous and if I were them, I'd just give workers the min amount and screw them. They are living in la-la land looking for 8 weeks. When I think of all the people who have lost their jobs recently and would be delighted with 5 weeks per year, it makes my blood boil. Greedy bastards!

    Why are you so angry about some workers trying to get some more money from their employers? It's not like it's your money they're trying to get.

    Also, why would they give a fig what other workers think about them? They're just trying to negotiate the best possible deal for themselves.

    You would do the same, and if you wouldn't, you deserve to get only the worst possible option available to you for not being man enough to stand up for yourself and try to get a better deal.


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