So many 'junkies'

NickNolte · 12-07-2009 11:38PM

todolist wrote: »

Dublin like to portray itself as left wing and liberal.hence giving free drugs to drug addicts and then the liberals are surprised by the amount of zombie junkies wandering around Dublin city.

Yeah, nice prejudicial generalisations there. What's your solution, smart guy?

Fintomiginto · 12-07-2009 11:45PM

dsmythy wrote: »

I wish they'd take kids off addicted parents more often.

Theres nothing worse than people addicted to kids.

Paedos

Amalgam · 12-07-2009 11:52PM

MizzLolly wrote: »

I'm just wondering what the situation is in regard to actually telling the Guards when you see somebody strung out like this? Would they not just tell you there's nothing they can do?

No offence, but the Gardai have to filter out a lot of that, including requests for help from the public. If they didn't, they'd be nursing smackheads all day, every day. They can't do anything until an offence is commited.

I think prison is a total waste for petty drug offences, either withdraw social benefit payments for a given period of time, force a review of benefits, or do something unique, remove petty assets, if they have any, their shoes, stereo, Sky cable.. TV.. anything that they can feel a tangible sense of loss towards.

MizzLolly · 12-07-2009 11:56PM

Amalgam wrote: »

No offence, but the Gardai have to filter out a lot of that, including requests for help from the public. If they didn't, they'd be nursing smackheads all day, every day. They can't do anything until an offence is commited.

None taken, I'm not a smackhead.

Not blaming anyone to be honest, just wondering what the public are supposed to be doing!

Acacia · 13-07-2009 12:24AM

Yeah, more than usual. Westmoreland Street all the way down to the Dublin City Council building is crawling with them. They tend to congregate at the Ha'Penny bridge, both on the boardwalk and on the other side ( the alley to Temple Bar, Centra). Talbot Street is pretty bad, too.

I hate seeing any young kids hanging around them. God knows, if that's their start in life, imagine how they're going to end up.

What is it with Dublin and heroin? Seems to be here more than other places in Ireland.

Stev_o · 13-07-2009 12:26AM

Acacia wrote: »

Yeah, more than usual. Westmoreland Street all the way down to the Dublin City Council building is crawling with them. They tend to congregate at the Ha'Penny bridge, both on the boardwalk and on the other side ( the alley to Temple Bar, Centra). Talbot Street is pretty bad, too.

I hate seeing any young kids hanging around them. God knows, if that's their start in life, imagine how they're going to end up.

What is it with Dublin and heroin? Seems to be here more than other places in Ireland.

Dublin. Irelands biggest port. Drugs get imported. Port is within walking distance of city centre.

More economical for dealers to sell locally then have to ship them around the country.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 13-07-2009 01:03AM

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

Have you noticed that there are so many more heroin junkies around town lately?
In the last week I've even seen 2 diffeerent kids about 14 who were obviously heroin addicts- how sad. The worst is when you see two parents completely out of it on gear and they have poor little kids with them, I feel so sorry for them, can social services not do anything for them?

Define the appearance of a junkie please.

Not every gaunt, half malnourished poverty striken person wandering the streets is off their face on heroin.

I Know what id look like if I spent a few months living their ways.

j1smithy · 13-07-2009 02:36AM

Under the loop line bridge there in the mornings can be really bad. Not too long ago I was travelling between offices for a meeting and had to walk through a gang selling the stuff right there in front of me. It was rather intimidating at the time.

Another great hang-out for them is on the benches in front of the Custom House, though it also seems to be the spot if you're a wino as well. Theres one man down there I often notice asleep on a bench with his belly hanging out. Its in such a weird position it looks like its going to detach itself from his body.

brendansmith · 13-07-2009 02:41AM

MizzLolly wrote: »

I'm just wondering what the situation is in regard to actually telling the Guards when you see somebody strung out like this? Would they not just tell you there's nothing they can do?

For example, during the week I seen two junkies kicking the bejayzus outta eachother on O Connell St. The boy junkie knocked the girl junkie onto the ground and was kicking, shaking, slapping and punching her. It went on for maybe just under 10mins and nobody was really doing anything, just the odd few watching. So the group of us went up to the GPO and told the Guards there that there was a lady being beaten by a guy and said I think they're homeless. The two Guards said they'll be over in a minute ( ) and stopped on the way over to give a group of tourists directions to Suffolk St. :rolleyes:

Then they pulled yer man off of her, sent him walking in one direction, helped her up and she went walking towards Parnell Square.

So really, what's the point in telling the guards? Granted, they broke up this one incident but I got the impression there wasn't much more they can actually do.

If we do come across junkies, drunks etc.. are we supposed to bring it to the gardai's attention? Or wha?

(just to add, the junkie pair were at it again on Westmoreland St on Friday so maybe they're well known to the poor guards!)

Its tough to know what to do with junkies as they can have viruses and also syringes on them and no one wants to touch them.

grenache · 13-07-2009 03:09AM

There's a good deal of them in Limerick City centre too. In the business i work in, we had to stop selling lighters and turkish delights because these products were attracting the junkies into the shop. Last week i took in a 5 euro note covered in white powder from a guy who was on another planet. It just makes you sick.

mikemac · 13-07-2009 03:11AM

Why Turkish delights?
Foil wrapping?

I haven't a clue so interested to know

brendansmith · 13-07-2009 03:16AM

grenache wrote: »

In the business i work in, we had to stop selling lighters and turkish delights

HAHAHA

I had a real tough day at the office today. Some kid wanted two packets of meanies but was 2 cent short.
I wanted to give them to him but in my line of 'business', we dont do that, I got to keep my 'business' ethics man!
Without them I aint got nothing in this 'business'.

j1smithy · 13-07-2009 03:17AM

mikemac wrote: »

Why Turkish delights?
Foil wrapping?

I haven't a clue so interested to know

Foil is necessary in the preparation of heroin/crack for smoking. A few times I've seen junkies discard whole bars of chocolate just to get the foil. Turkish Delights have particularly thick foil I believe for which it is especially good for drug abuse.

Incidentally Tesco have a policy where they won't sell spoons (and I think tinfoil, its been a while since I worked there) to under 16s because if it being related to drug abuse.

j1smithy · 13-07-2009 03:19AM

brendansmith wrote: »

HAHAHA

I had a real tough day at the office today. Some kid wanted two packets of meanies but was 2 cent short.
I wanted to give them to him but in my line of 'business', we dont do that, I got to keep my 'business' ethics man!
Without them I aint got nothing in this 'business'.

I thought you would have given him all the sweets he wanted... to keep him quiet... brendansmith!

yerayeah · 13-07-2009 03:19AM

mikemac wrote: »

Why Turkish delights?
Foil wrapping?

I haven't a clue so interested to know

Yip, think I read before that Turkish Delights have the most tinfoil of all the common choc bars...

mikemac · 13-07-2009 03:22AM

Interesting, I've heard of cafe's where you have to ask for vinegar for your table and they'll give it to you. And then remove it when you leave.

Something to do with junkies stealing the small bottles and use it for sterilizing needles.

Could be an urban myth, just something I was told once.

grenache · 13-07-2009 03:30AM

j1smithy wrote: »

Foil is necessary in the preparation of heroin/crack for smoking. A few times I've seen junkies discard whole bars of chocolate just to get the foil. Turkish Delights have particularly thick foil I believe for which it is especially good for drug abuse.

This is the reason in a nutshell. Turkish Delights and Animal Bars are the two most commonly sought after items by these junkies. Both have the thick foil. Up to 2007, tinfoil was the second most-stolen product in convenience shops, after which the vast majority of stores moved the tinfoil behind the counter.

DubMedic · 13-07-2009 03:30AM

mikemac wrote: »

Something to do with junkies stealing the small bottles and use it for sterilizing needles.

That would be the last thing on a junkies mind, unfortunately.

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Amalgam · 13-07-2009 08:46AM

Heroin use leads to the following situation. See attached. Very common in Dublin, you don't get 'normal' lighting any more.

0ubliette · 13-07-2009 09:11AM

Aliza Panicky Liar wrote: »

Define the appearance of a junkie please.

Not every gaunt, half malnourished poverty striken person wandering the streets is off their face on heroin.

I Know what id look like if I spent a few months living their ways.

you dont need to 'define the appearance of a junkie' ffs. Anyone whos lived in dublin long enough can spot them a mile away. You see the shambling walk, the lank hair and hands generally covered in sores and you dont need to see anything else to know theyre on gear.
Its tolerated far too much to be honest. Its not right that we should be bending over backwards with treatment programs that obviously arent working and turning a blind eye to these scum so much that decent people are being mugged, intimidated or harassed on a daily basis, and that the city is just starting to look like junkie central with smackheads wandering around every damn street corner.

Pop's Diner · 13-07-2009 09:15AM

Actually I was curious. Does anyone here know of any heroin users who are functioning members of society? The stereotype definetly seems to be that every one of them are emaciated unemployed losers hanging around drinking their fanta orange and waiting to score their next hit. But I was wondering are there any users out there that, for example, hold down a job , pay rent, contribute to society etc?

Degsy · 13-07-2009 10:04AM

Just this morning i saw a bloke in d'olier st roaring at the top of his voice to some other bloke who took his runner off and pulled a huge wad of money and a bag of deals out..IN the midddle of the street at 8.50 am..i'm sick of looking at these dirtbags carrying on thier business in the street with impunity while the rest of us are going to work to support them.

xzanti · 13-07-2009 10:09AM

Saw 2 zombies on the Quays on my way to work last week, rifling around in one of those nice plant pots along the liffey near the IFSC.. Either they're hiding their stash's in among the shrubbery or they've taken to a bit of pruning to while away the time..

What an existance.. I'd rather be dead.

NewFrockTuesday · 13-07-2009 10:16AM

I used to work in Elephant & Castle and they had the same lights in the loos. Every so often a junkie would sneak in before service and hide in them and shoot up. If they were caught before they managed to get it in to themselves, there used to be war trying to get them out.

Theyd be literally climbing the walls trying to stay in. I think the guys used to have to break the door in sometimes. I worked in the kitchen and we'd see them bundleing the squealing, swearing, kicking, spitting rats grabbing the legs of the chairs going by the hatch. They used to be none too gentle with them to discourage future visits. Theyd come back with a few mates and start hasselling us out the back when we went for a break and they were forever trying to rob the kitchen. It was an on-going state of war every single day. Some serious slapping used to break out when they got caught. Never steal from crazy Russian chefs. Theyd slice you as soon as look at you.

Ahh, good times

mickoneill30 · 13-07-2009 10:18AM

This post has been going a few hours now. Where's the guy / girl that normally drops in to say

"Sure it happens in every major city"

as if that makes it all OK.

They must be off today

asdasd · 13-07-2009 10:21AM

Its not right that we should be bending over backwards with treatment programs that obviously arent working and turning a blind eye to these scum so much that decent people are being mugged, intimidated or harassed on a daily basis, and that the city is just starting to look like junkie central with smackheads wandering around every damn street corner.

They're oppressed by "we as a society". It's not them, it's us. Your bourgeois lifestyle of goint to work in a shop, or an office, is what causes the problem in the first place because it makes them relatively poorer than you ( well if you ignore the dole fraud and the sales from drugs).

So dont blame them, blame you.

ThinkCorrect.

Oafley Jones · 13-07-2009 10:34AM

markok84 wrote: »

Well I'll tell you one thing, you wouldn't see them in Cork:pac:

You've got to be joking. Saw two on Patrick's St. on way into work this morning alone. They're constantly around there, something that i never saw until about a month or two ago.

Boston · 13-07-2009 10:43AM

How many of you have been attacked by these Junkies? While there going about their business and not hassling decent folk, the gardi will do nothing. The reason being that if you saw pictures of gardai running in, batons drawn, clearing the streets, you like most of the other moronic do gooders, would be appalled.

CCCP^ wrote: »

Is there some kind of treatment centre on Pearse street? Whenever I am heading to Markievicz* swimming pool I notice alot of them muddling around one bulding.

* Not correct spelling, sowwy.

Theres a house just there used to distribute.

asdasd · 13-07-2009 10:46AM

Are there not laws on loitering? Shooting up in Public? Public intoxication. etc.

cosmic · 13-07-2009 11:14AM

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

So many 'junkies'

So many threads about 'junkies'...

So many 'junkies'

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