So many 'junkies'

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Have you noticed that there are so many more heroin junkies around town lately?
In the last week I've even seen 2 diffeerent kids about 14 who were obviously heroin addicts- how sad. The worst is when you see two parents completely out of it on gear and they have poor little kids with them, I feel so sorry for them, can social services not do anything for them?

Aodan83

What town?

My name is URL

Have you asked them?

Insect Overlord

In before the move to Dublin edit...

2xj3hplqgsbkym

Sorry, Dublin, especially around Connolly station and Talbot Street

shenanigans1982

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

Sorry, Dublin, especially around Connolly station and Talbot Street

Its worse on the Southside....have you ever been to Tara St station?...lowlifes.

No junkies in my town

markok84

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

Sorry, Dublin, especially around Connolly station and Talbot Street

Well I'll tell you one thing, you wouldn't see them in Cork:pac:

ejmaztec

Thanks to the highly successful war on drugs, there are no junkies in Ireland, and the OP must be hallucinating on too much oxygen, or something.

dsmythy

I wish they'd take kids off addicted parents more often.

mikemac

Ah boards, the only place where a city centre and every sign around the area is marked city centre gets called a town

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

Sorry, Dublin, especially around Connolly station and Talbot Street

Well, there is a clinic on Amiens St just up from Connolly Station.
And I believe another treatment centre on Marlborough St.

So it's hardly surprising at all that they congregate there

As for help from the state.
There are those two clinics, a welfare office on Amiens St, Marino College nearby that you can do training courses in and by the Five Lamps there is an office that offers counseling service to those who need it and to their family members.

There is help there and it's all costing money.
But are those with a self-inflicted problem actually looking for help?
If not, there isn't a whole lot you can do.

Armin_Tamzarian

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

In the last week I've even seen 2 diffeerent kids about 14 who were obviously heroin addicts - how sad.

That's a bit prejudicial.
For all you know they may have been Crack addicts.

CCCP^

Around Talbot Street is pretty bad and around the Quays, on the boardwalk, sometimes I see alot of people just strung out around there but it's usually up from O' Connell Bridge heading towards Liberty Hall and the Customs House.

I am not sure if the Heroin problem in Dublin is getting worse, but it sure isn't getting any better.

uberwolf

I think I am seeing more out on the streets, drinking openly.
Not sure whether the Garda are taking a different approach these days, but I'd love to just gather them and stick them out on the Blaskets. We can reintegrate any who survive the swim home.

Sharpshooter

ejmaztec wrote: »

Thanks to the highly successful war on drugs, there are no junkies in Ireland, and the OP must be hallucinating on too much oxygen, or something.

Maybe they're a thorn in her side.:pac:

CCCP^

mikemac wrote: »

Ah boards, the only place where a city centre and every sign around the area is marked city centre gets called a town

Well, there is a clinic on Amiens St just up from Connolly Station.
And I believe another treatment centre on Marlborough St.

So it's hardly surprising at all that they congregate there

Is there some kind of treatment centre on Pearse street? Whenever I am heading to Markievicz* swimming pool I notice alot of them muddling around one bulding.

* Not correct spelling, sowwy.

aligator_am

No point in wasting bullets on those scum, a nice broadsword would do the trick nicely , maybe line up about 5 of them and swing with all your might :D:D a few rounds of that and no more public junkies, but no doubt there would be plenty of planks still shooting up privately, "for the buzz, roytsh"... pr1cks.

NickNolte

Yeah, there's a clinic on Pearse St I think. The amount of them hanging around the Tara Street/Pearse Street area is beyond ridiculous. The sheer number of degenerates in this city is incredible. You hear very little about it in the media but something like 17,000 heroin addicts in Dublin... Heuston, we have a problem.

aligator_am

Is there any chance they could be all rounded up from all over the city and then send in a flamethrower squad?

mikemac

There is a vacant property down by the port.
Would it be an idea to lease a large building and kit it out as a treatment centre?

Not trying to hide the problem, it'd still be there.

But from a tourist aspect alone it can't be good to have tourists getting hassled, intimidated or even just getting a bad impression from what currently happens in the city centre.
Not forgetting the locals too of course

asdasd

But from a tourist aspect alone it can't be good to have tourists getting hassled, intimidated or even just getting a bad impression from what currently happens in the city centre.
Not forgetting the locals too of course

The tolerance of anti-social behaviour is a kick in the teeth to taxpayers. Why fund a boardwalk if we cant use it, or a park that is full of anti-social elements? It's a waste of money.

the boardwalk is a good idea, however I have heard criticism from people who say "we should have known what would happen..."

Why should we know this? They can have beaches along the seine in Paris, and I have seen urban beaches in Bristol, a poorer city than Dublin. We cant continue to accept that all public spaces are liable to be taken over by junkies. Lets get some policing.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Some people in the Dublin City Forum seem to me oblivious of this scourge on your city's streets, so Mods feel completely free to throw it over to us.

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ejmaztec

aligator_am wrote: »

No point in wasting bullets on those scum, a nice broadsword would do the trick nicely , maybe line up about 5 of them and swing with all your might :D:D a few rounds of that and no more public junkies, but no doubt there would be plenty of planks still shooting up privately, "for the buzz, roytsh"... pr1cks.

All that dodgy blood flying around?:eek:

Ross_Mahon

I'm in the mood for watching Adam & Paul.jpg

Gummy Panda

ejmaztec wrote: »

All that dodgy blood flying around?:eek:

I agree.

Purge by fire is the only way.

aligator_am

ejmaztec wrote: »

All that dodgy blood flying around?:eek:

Fair point, I still think flamethrowers would do the trick

Professey Chin

Ross_Mahon wrote: »

I'm in the mood for watching Adam & Paul.jpg

Christ what a sh!t film

Chucky the tree

Van Swift Backstop wrote: »

Some people in the Dublin City Forum seem to me oblivious of this scourge on your city's streets, so Mods feel completely free to throw it over to us.

.

And some people seem to think that all their is in Dublin is junkies so maybe it should stay here?

todolist

Dublin like to portray itself as left wing and liberal.hence giving free drugs to drug addicts and then the liberals are surprised by the amount of zombie junkies wandering around Dublin city.

MizzLolly

I'm just wondering what the situation is in regard to actually telling the Guards when you see somebody strung out like this? Would they not just tell you there's nothing they can do?

For example, during the week I seen two junkies kicking the bejayzus outta eachother on O Connell St. The boy junkie knocked the girl junkie onto the ground and was kicking, shaking, slapping and punching her. It went on for maybe just under 10mins and nobody was really doing anything, just the odd few watching. So the group of us went up to the GPO and told the Guards there that there was a lady being beaten by a guy and said I think they're homeless. The two Guards said they'll be over in a minute ( ) and stopped on the way over to give a group of tourists directions to Suffolk St. :rolleyes:

Then they pulled yer man off of her, sent him walking in one direction, helped her up and she went walking towards Parnell Square.

So really, what's the point in telling the guards? Granted, they broke up this one incident but I got the impression there wasn't much more they can actually do.

If we do come across junkies, drunks etc.. are we supposed to bring it to the gardai's attention? Or wha?


(just to add, the junkie pair were at it again on Westmoreland St on Friday so maybe they're well known to the poor guards!)

Stev_o

MizzLolly wrote: »

I'm just wondering what the situation is in regard to actually telling the Guards when you see somebody strung out like this? Would they not just tell you there's nothing they can do?

For example, during the week I seen two junkies kicking the bejayzus outta eachother on O Connell St. The boy junkie knocked the girl junkie onto the ground and was kicking, shaking, slapping and punching her. It went on for maybe just under 10mins and nobody was really doing anything, just the odd few watching. So the group of us went up to the GPO and told the Guards there that there was a lady being beaten by a guy and said I think they're homeless. The two Guards said they'll be over in a minute ( ) and stopped on the way over to give a group of tourists directions to Suffolk St. :rolleyes:

Then they pulled yer man off of her, sent him walking in one direction, helped her up and she went walking towards Parnell Square.

So really, what's the point in telling the guards? Granted, they broke up this one incident but I got the impression there wasn't much more they can actually do.

If we do come across junkies, drunks etc.. are we supposed to bring it to the gardai's attention? Or wha?


(just to add, the junkie pair were at it again on Westmoreland St on Friday so maybe they're well known to the poor guards!)

Maybe they are purposely trying to get arrested on purpose to get a roof over their heads and a meal every night

NickNolte

todolist wrote: »

Dublin like to portray itself as left wing and liberal.hence giving free drugs to drug addicts and then the liberals are surprised by the amount of zombie junkies wandering around Dublin city.

Yeah, nice prejudicial generalisations there. What's your solution, smart guy?

Fintomiginto

dsmythy wrote: »

I wish they'd take kids off addicted parents more often.

Theres nothing worse than people addicted to kids.

Paedos

Amalgam

MizzLolly wrote: »

I'm just wondering what the situation is in regard to actually telling the Guards when you see somebody strung out like this? Would they not just tell you there's nothing they can do?

No offence, but the Gardai have to filter out a lot of that, including requests for help from the public. If they didn't, they'd be nursing smackheads all day, every day. They can't do anything until an offence is commited.

I think prison is a total waste for petty drug offences, either withdraw social benefit payments for a given period of time, force a review of benefits, or do something unique, remove petty assets, if they have any, their shoes, stereo, Sky cable.. TV.. anything that they can feel a tangible sense of loss towards.

MizzLolly

Amalgam wrote: »

No offence, but the Gardai have to filter out a lot of that, including requests for help from the public. If they didn't, they'd be nursing smackheads all day, every day. They can't do anything until an offence is commited.

None taken, I'm not a smackhead.


Not blaming anyone to be honest, just wondering what the public are supposed to be doing!

Acacia

Yeah, more than usual. Westmoreland Street all the way down to the Dublin City Council building is crawling with them. They tend to congregate at the Ha'Penny bridge, both on the boardwalk and on the other side ( the alley to Temple Bar, Centra). Talbot Street is pretty bad, too.

I hate seeing any young kids hanging around them. God knows, if that's their start in life, imagine how they're going to end up.

What is it with Dublin and heroin? Seems to be here more than other places in Ireland.

Stev_o

Acacia wrote: »

Yeah, more than usual. Westmoreland Street all the way down to the Dublin City Council building is crawling with them. They tend to congregate at the Ha'Penny bridge, both on the boardwalk and on the other side ( the alley to Temple Bar, Centra). Talbot Street is pretty bad, too.

I hate seeing any young kids hanging around them. God knows, if that's their start in life, imagine how they're going to end up.

What is it with Dublin and heroin? Seems to be here more than other places in Ireland.

Dublin. Irelands biggest port. Drugs get imported. Port is within walking distance of city centre.

More economical for dealers to sell locally then have to ship them around the country.

g5fd6ow0hseima

Marc Dazzling Show wrote: »

Have you noticed that there are so many more heroin junkies around town lately?
In the last week I've even seen 2 diffeerent kids about 14 who were obviously heroin addicts- how sad. The worst is when you see two parents completely out of it on gear and they have poor little kids with them, I feel so sorry for them, can social services not do anything for them?

Define the appearance of a junkie please.

Not every gaunt, half malnourished poverty striken person wandering the streets is off their face on heroin.

I Know what id look like if I spent a few months living their ways.

j1smithy

Under the loop line bridge there in the mornings can be really bad. Not too long ago I was travelling between offices for a meeting and had to walk through a gang selling the stuff right there in front of me. It was rather intimidating at the time.

Another great hang-out for them is on the benches in front of the Custom House, though it also seems to be the spot if you're a wino as well. Theres one man down there I often notice asleep on a bench with his belly hanging out. Its in such a weird position it looks like its going to detach itself from his body.

brendansmith

MizzLolly wrote: »

I'm just wondering what the situation is in regard to actually telling the Guards when you see somebody strung out like this? Would they not just tell you there's nothing they can do?

For example, during the week I seen two junkies kicking the bejayzus outta eachother on O Connell St. The boy junkie knocked the girl junkie onto the ground and was kicking, shaking, slapping and punching her. It went on for maybe just under 10mins and nobody was really doing anything, just the odd few watching. So the group of us went up to the GPO and told the Guards there that there was a lady being beaten by a guy and said I think they're homeless. The two Guards said they'll be over in a minute ( ) and stopped on the way over to give a group of tourists directions to Suffolk St. :rolleyes:

Then they pulled yer man off of her, sent him walking in one direction, helped her up and she went walking towards Parnell Square.

So really, what's the point in telling the guards? Granted, they broke up this one incident but I got the impression there wasn't much more they can actually do.

If we do come across junkies, drunks etc.. are we supposed to bring it to the gardai's attention? Or wha?


(just to add, the junkie pair were at it again on Westmoreland St on Friday so maybe they're well known to the poor guards!)

Its tough to know what to do with junkies as they can have viruses and also syringes on them and no one wants to touch them.

grenache

There's a good deal of them in Limerick City centre too. In the business i work in, we had to stop selling lighters and turkish delights because these products were attracting the junkies into the shop. Last week i took in a 5 euro note covered in white powder from a guy who was on another planet. It just makes you sick.

mikemac

Why Turkish delights?
Foil wrapping?

I haven't a clue so interested to know

brendansmith

grenache wrote: »

In the business i work in, we had to stop selling lighters and turkish delights

HAHAHA

I had a real tough day at the office today. Some kid wanted two packets of meanies but was 2 cent short.
I wanted to give them to him but in my line of 'business', we dont do that, I got to keep my 'business' ethics man!
Without them I aint got nothing in this 'business'.

j1smithy

mikemac wrote: »

Why Turkish delights?
Foil wrapping?

I haven't a clue so interested to know

Foil is necessary in the preparation of heroin/crack for smoking. A few times I've seen junkies discard whole bars of chocolate just to get the foil. Turkish Delights have particularly thick foil I believe for which it is especially good for drug abuse.

Incidentally Tesco have a policy where they won't sell spoons (and I think tinfoil, its been a while since I worked there) to under 16s because if it being related to drug abuse.

j1smithy

brendansmith wrote: »

HAHAHA

I had a real tough day at the office today. Some kid wanted two packets of meanies but was 2 cent short.
I wanted to give them to him but in my line of 'business', we dont do that, I got to keep my 'business' ethics man!
Without them I aint got nothing in this 'business'.

I thought you would have given him all the sweets he wanted... to keep him quiet... brendansmith!

yerayeah

mikemac wrote: »

Why Turkish delights?
Foil wrapping?

I haven't a clue so interested to know

Yip, think I read before that Turkish Delights have the most tinfoil of all the common choc bars...

mikemac

Interesting, I've heard of cafe's where you have to ask for vinegar for your table and they'll give it to you. And then remove it when you leave.

Something to do with junkies stealing the small bottles and use it for sterilizing needles.

Could be an urban myth, just something I was told once.

grenache

j1smithy wrote: »

Foil is necessary in the preparation of heroin/crack for smoking. A few times I've seen junkies discard whole bars of chocolate just to get the foil. Turkish Delights have particularly thick foil I believe for which it is especially good for drug abuse.

This is the reason in a nutshell. Turkish Delights and Animal Bars are the two most commonly sought after items by these junkies. Both have the thick foil. Up to 2007, tinfoil was the second most-stolen product in convenience shops, after which the vast majority of stores moved the tinfoil behind the counter.

DubMedic

mikemac wrote: »

Something to do with junkies stealing the small bottles and use it for sterilizing needles.

That would be the last thing on a junkies mind, unfortunately.

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Amalgam

Heroin use leads to the following situation. See attached. Very common in Dublin, you don't get 'normal' lighting any more.

0ubliette

Aliza Panicky Liar wrote: »

Define the appearance of a junkie please.

Not every gaunt, half malnourished poverty striken person wandering the streets is off their face on heroin.

I Know what id look like if I spent a few months living their ways.

you dont need to 'define the appearance of a junkie' ffs. Anyone whos lived in dublin long enough can spot them a mile away. You see the shambling walk, the lank hair and hands generally covered in sores and you dont need to see anything else to know theyre on gear.
Its tolerated far too much to be honest. Its not right that we should be bending over backwards with treatment programs that obviously arent working and turning a blind eye to these scum so much that decent people are being mugged, intimidated or harassed on a daily basis, and that the city is just starting to look like junkie central with smackheads wandering around every damn street corner.