2012, what's it all about?

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:06PM

Oh and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hujQg2E_fDw
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_TzIUlaQok

Mahatma coat · 30-06-2009 02:08PM

hang on a mo, I thought Black holes were still in the Theoretic realm, is there proof of an exsting Black hole at the centre of Sagitarius???

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:09PM

and also
http://www.satansrapture.com/nostra2012.html

http://nostradamus2012.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0CHi1RXX0

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:11PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

hang on a mo, I thought Black holes were still in the Theoretic realm, is there proof of an exsting Black hole at the centre of Sagitarius???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermassive_black_hole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

Quantum Physicsists have been analyzing em for years....its what happens inside which is theory

Redzer7 · 30-06-2009 02:19PM

Will Smith Comes To Save Us All :cool:

30-06-2009 02:19PM

HouseHippo wrote: »

http://www.eilight.com/pages/hologalacticdec99.html
There is about 100 more like that

Link doesn't work.

HouseHippo wrote: »

There isn't a 13 sign zodiac,respectively.The 13th sign is a "secret sign" widely used by prophets and theorists.

It isn't a secret sign. It's been known to astronomers and astrologers for thousands of years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus

HouseHippo wrote: »

Astronomy wise calculating the relevent lightyears our orbits takes and the light years which its takes to reach teh galactic center or dark rift it happening every year is near impossible.

No it's not. Earth position in the galaxy is well known and understood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way#Sun.27s_location_and_neighborhood

The Sun (and therefore the Earth and Solar System) may be found close to the inner rim of the Galaxy's Orion Arm, in the Local Fluff inside the Local Bubble, and in the Gould Belt, at a distance of 7.62±0.32 kpc (~25,000±1,000 ly) from the Galactic Center.

HouseHippo wrote: »

otherwise we would have this planetery realignment of "pola shift" every year which would be catastrophic,

Either that or the galactic alignment doesn't cause a "pole shift".

HouseHippo wrote: »

according to leading scientists , theoretical physicists and y college books its a 26,000 year cycle...

Which ones and where?

HouseHippo wrote: »

and why are you asing me for evidence when you presented none

Because you making the claim?
And all the astronomy I've looked at doesn't support your claim?

As for my proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center

The Galactic Center is the rotational center of the Milky Way galaxy. It is located about 7.6 kiloparsecs (25,000 ly) away from the Earth[1] in the direction of the constellations Sagittarius, Ophiuchus, and Scorpius where the Milky Way appears brightest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A

Sagittarius A (or Sgr A) is a complex radio source at the center of our galaxy, the Milky Way. It is located in the sky in the Sagittarius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac#Table_of_dates

Sagittarius
18 December – 20 January
33.6 days

I miss anything?

30-06-2009 02:21PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

hang on a mo, I thought Black holes were still in the Theoretic realm, is there proof of an exsting Black hole at the centre of Sagitarius???

There are many observed black holes.

All the evidence points to this as the black at the centre of the galaxy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A*

Mahatma coat · 30-06-2009 02:22PM

that'd be a no then, still theory fromwhat I see, got any reasonable evidence of one?

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:24PM

King Mob wrote: »

Link doesn't work.

It isn't a secret sign. It's been known to astronomers and astrologers for thousands of years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus

No it's not. Earth position in the galaxy is well known and understood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way#Sun.27s_location_and_neighborhood

Either that or the galactic alignment doesn't cause a "pole shift".

Which ones and where?

Because you making the claim?
And all the astronomy I've looked at doesn't support your claim?

As for my proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac#Table_of_dates

I miss anything?

tbh you aren't addressing my points correctly, arguing with everyone and no matter what I say despite me studying science, i'll get sweet fcuk all excep more crappy wiki links.....so I have a gig to play and i'm not wasting my time arguing cause I don't really give a ****....

oh and try using google, google michio Kaka, Mark Holdsten, Einstien....

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:24PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

that'd be a no then, still theory fromwhat I see, got any reasonable evidence of one?

Eh.....hubble images??????? :P

30-06-2009 02:25PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

that'd be a no then, still theory fromwhat I see, got any reasonable evidence of one?

That's a yes actually.
There's plenty of reasonable evidence on the wikipedia pages provided.

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:29PM

I just learned that Edward Hubble was a great boxer...nothing to do with this thread but pretty interesting...*goes to read*

30-06-2009 02:30PM

HouseHippo wrote: »

tbh you aren't addressing my points correctly, arguing with everyone and no matter what I say despite me studying science,

How exactly? By asking you to back up your claims?
Hate to break it to you but I study science too.

HouseHippo wrote: »

i'll get sweet fcuk all excep more crappy wiki links.....so I have a gig to play and i'm not wasting my time arguing cause I don't really give a ****....

And links for 2012 sites are better?
At least Wikipedia has references.

HouseHippo wrote: »

oh and try using google, google michio Kaka, Mark Holdsten, Einstien....

I do regularly.
I've never seen Einstien or Michio Kaku give any credence to 2012 theories.

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 02:33PM

I sent you 3 youtube videos....you didn't even notice no....and stop with the rhethorical questions its a massive representation of arrogance...no need to be a smart arse at all

Ostrom · 30-06-2009 02:38PM

HouseHippo wrote: »

I sent you 3 youtube videos....you didn't even notice no....and stop with the rhethorical questions its a massive representation of arrogance...no need to be a smart arse at all

In fairness....

Youtube videos?

I'm not a scientist, but I do like astronomy, and there seems to be nonsense coming from all sides here

30-06-2009 02:39PM

HouseHippo wrote: »

I sent you 3 youtube videos....you didn't even notice no....and stop with the rhethorical questions its a massive representation of arrogance...no need to be a smart arse at all

Yea they're talking about an event that happens every 11 years.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Mayan predictions.

Can you provide any evidence that the galactic alignment happens only every 26,000 years?

Can you show where my reasoning is wrong?

Mahatma coat · 30-06-2009 02:55PM

OK I'm feelin exceptionaly lazy, anyone want to produce a Photograph of one of these blackhol3es

Ostrom · 30-06-2009 03:00PM

Hubble site has some mock-ups

You cant image a black hole, NASA use X-ray telescopes to measure radiation from the accretion disk. Sorry I cant remember the name of the telescope - its in near earth orbit

Here it is: http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/category/blackholes.html

You can observe M81 quite easily from the ground

A7X · 30-06-2009 03:00PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK I'm feelin exceptionaly lazy, anyone want to produce a Photograph of one of these blackhol3es

Pretty sure theres no "photo" of a Black Hole, but here http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2008/blackhole_slumber.html

30-06-2009 03:02PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK I'm feelin exceptionaly lazy, anyone want to produce a Photograph of one of these blackhol3es

They're not usually imaged.
They detected by Xray AFIAK.

Here's a list of possible/probable ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_black_hole#Stellar_mass_black_hole_candidates

Here's a few images of Supermassive black holes.
http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2002/0157/0157_composite.jpg
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0210/mwcentre_eso_big.jpg

gpjordanf1 · 30-06-2009 03:03PM

theres one on the bbc science website, pretty recent, it's not a direct photo but it's visible effect's on objects and stars around it.

30-06-2009 03:05PM

efla wrote: »

Hubble site has some mock-ups

You cant image a black hole, NASA use X-ray telescopes to measure radiation from the accretion disk. Sorry I cant remember the name of the telescope - its in near earth orbit

I think this is the one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_X-ray_Observatory

6th · 30-06-2009 03:07PM

Lads quit the snide comments. 1 time warning.

Ostrom · 30-06-2009 03:08PM

King Mob wrote: »

I think this is the one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_X-ray_Observatory

Thats it, cheers!

Nice website too, interesting composites

Mahatma coat · 30-06-2009 03:14PM

OK, we's gettin places, now, I's off ta me Leaba, tomorrow I'll have a beter look at whats actually goin ta happen to all the stars n planets on 21/12/12, hows about we have a discussion about the ins and outs of it armed with the same evel of verifiable evidence and the same level of acceptance of theory as we've done today, y'kno we might just be able ta 'all just get along';)

:D:D:D

AdamusAdonis · 30-06-2009 03:37PM

Nothing will happen... nothing.

JINX!

samson09 · 30-06-2009 05:32PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK I'm feelin exceptionaly lazy, anyone want to produce a Photograph of one of these blackhol3es

Here you go Mahatma

<snipped by bonkey - samson09 banned for one week>

Apologies to the mods and possible yellow card accepted, but it was just something I had to do.

AntiRip · 30-06-2009 06:40PM

King Mob wrote: »

Well if it's in a news article it must be true.

Can you provide anything that shows the this galactic alignment doesn't happen every year but every 26000 years?

Because as far as I see it the galactic centre (the supermassive black hole) is in the constellation of Sagittarius.
Sagittarius is part of the zodiac. The zodiac is a group of 13 constellations the sun appears to go through as viewed from Earth as it orbits the Sun.
During every winter solstice every year the Sun is in the constellation of Sagittarius.
So it is between us and the galactic centre just like every year.

TBH with you I couldn't get a sh1t! Just googled it and got that link. Good day to you sir

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 09:01PM

King Mob wrote: »

Yea they're talking about an event that happens every 11 years.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Mayan predictions.

Can you provide any evidence that the galactic alignment happens only every 26,000 years?

Can you show where my reasoning is wrong?

I don't believe in any of that mayan Bollox show me where i said i did.....if we are all gonna die in 2012 which we prob aren't i have better things to do than argue with some stranger on the net...good day to you sir

HouseHippo · 30-06-2009 09:02PM

efla wrote: »

In fairness....

Youtube videos?

I'm not a scientist, but I do like astronomy, and there seems to be nonsense coming from all sides here

They are ACTUAL VIDEOS of RESPECTED SCIENTIST MICHIO KAKU,try watching before making snide comments yeah

2012, what's it all about?

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