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Could you ever kill yourself?

  • 23-05-2009 11:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭


    I was just read in about the recent suicide of Roh Moo-Hyun who killed himself due to his last legacy (being a clean politician), being muddied by recent corruption revelations.

    A German billionaire killed himself when he lost everyhting a few months ago.

    What would you do if you lost everything? Money, reputation, dignity etc.

    Tbh, cowardly as it may sound, I wouldn't kill myself, no matter how much everyone else hated me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Tbh, cowardly as it may sound, I wouldn't kill myself, no matter how much everyone else hated me.
    You 100% sure? They probably would have said the same thing before it happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 T1890


    No way, nothing is ever worth taking your own life over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I'd prolly miss (even if jumping)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    mike65 wrote: »
    I'd prolly miss (even if jumping)
    Missing the ground is the secret to flying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭Disease Ridden


    What about if you were suffering a very painful terminal illness with no hope of recovery?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Somebodys been listening to the MASH theme tune again :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭TheTubes


    i wont kill myself, just to spite everyone i know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Never in a million years would I put my family through that hell.
    And I have been tempted, believe me.

    I stick two fingers up at lifes fcuk ups and I carry on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    I like to have the option there, but i doubt i ever would


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    I wouldn't commit suicide because people hated me, thats just fcuking needy. I've had a shot or two at the title, and it was about me. Then again, that could be viewed as selfish. But its the nature of the beast. A lot of time is wasted thinking what others think of us. Its ridiculously unnessesary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Could you ever kill yourself?

    Just the once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    I don't know. I've never tried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    NotMe wrote: »
    I don't know. I've never tried.

    That's why he asked "Could you ever kill yourself" not "Have you ever killed yourself".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    NotMe wrote: »
    I don't know. I've never tried.
    tech77 wrote: »
    That's why he asked "Could you ever kill yourself" not "Have you ever killed yourself".

    Seriously if he had killed himself we would be shitting ourselves about now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    No, you only get one life, don't waste it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Seriously if he had killed himself we would be shitting ourselves about now.

    :confused:
    I was just discussing a point of logic in NotMe's post.
    What were you referring to?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    tech77 wrote: »
    That's why he asked "Could you ever kill yourself" not "Have you ever killed yourself".

    Yeah that's why I said I don't know if I could. If I had then I would know. Or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    NotMe wrote: »
    I don't know. I've never tried.
    tech77 wrote: »
    That's why he asked "Could you ever kill yourself" not "Have you ever killed yourself".
    Seriously if he had killed himself we would be shitting ourselves about now.
    tech77 wrote: »
    :confused:
    I was just discussing a point of logic in NotMe's post.
    What were you referring to?:confused:

    Well, your answer to NotMe.
    Think about it.;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    When I was in the depths of depression I did consider it. However the thought of what effect it would have on my family and close friends was enough to stop me from ever attempting it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Steal a Ferarri and fill it with as many high class hookers as possible. Fill the boot with explosives. Drive it off a cliff at top speed while getting blown and suppin on some rare whiskey, also stolen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I couldnt, I tried it before, Long story, but I had to drink meself into a stupor for the ould dutch courage and I was so noisy me mother heard me. Looking back on it Im delighted I failed. No I wouldnt do it. Have a few cousins etc that did do it and it leaves nothing but heartache behind, kinda obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I believe I could do it (but would need my life to get a lot worse - at the moment bank knocking on door, owe 35K to them for various loans and people that owe me money are dragging their heels - already 2months overdue, I have no ready cash left)....watch this space !!!
    (I would consider bankruptcy as my secondlast option.)

    .... and also believe I would have no problem killing another (assuming its my life or theirs type situation)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭InFront


    Kinda disturbing convo but interesting... but no, nothing's ever happened to make me think about it, hopefully it will stay like that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    i have decided that im quite prepared to die
    if my dreams aren't realised,
    i realise i am a future suicide -
    im a future suicide,
    but im still alive


    ed borrie pretty much sums it up for me there. dont think i ever will, but yeah, i definitely could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    I would die before I would kill myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Well, your answer to NotMe.
    Think about it.;)

    That reply was a lighthearted musing about the post's logic- incidental to the subject matter of the thread :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    tech77 wrote: »
    That reply was a lighthearted musing about the post's logic- incidental to the subject matter of the thread :confused:
    So why are you :confused: I'm not.:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    I won't kill myself. no.
    If something like such happened to me where i lose everything, i'll probably run away to some foreign land and start over again.
    I've recently noticed i'm fairly good at starting over!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭skyhighflyer


    Like most people, I've had my low points and the thought has crossed my mind in a more than fleeting way a couple of times.

    The way I understand it is that someone genuinely contemplating suicide is usually suffering from a chemical imbalance in their mind. This can be medical (often as a result of depression) or can result from a particular experience or experiences. Someone seriously considering suicide feels that there is no joy left in life and there never will be again. I see that a previous poster suggested driving a hooker-filled Ferrari off a cliff - I know it was a joke but it illustrates a point - such suicides really never happen because doing so would indicate that that person can still find joy from life and by definiton won't be suicidal.

    Don't want to make this into a rambling post but the best line I ever heard is that suicide is a 'permanent solution to a temporary problem'. I think the main reasons why I would never do it are:

    I'm too much of a coward
    Even in the best possible scenario, most of us will be gone in around 60 years or so anyway, which isn't a particularly long time in the great scheme of things, so I'll enjoy my time here and let nature take its course eventually :)
    People are dying in hospitals every day of terminal illnesses who would give anything for another chance at a long healthy life, people have kids with cancer who would sacrifice everything to make them well, so how in the hell could anyone otherwise fit and healthy throw their life away like that?
    Also, my life is pretty damn sweet so I've no reason to check out prematurely :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭gary nevillevil


    Human instinct is to fight to survive.
    but a tiny minority will chose to give up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭mewmoo


    If I did I'd try and make my death somewhat useful to someone, like volunteering as a mine/bomb disposable expert.

    Oh and make it as messy as possible too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Karsini wrote: »
    When I was in the depths of depression I did consider it. However the thought of what effect it would have on my family and close friends was enough to stop me from ever attempting it.

    I suppose when it gets to the stage where you think it may have a good effect, maybe that's the time?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    As a person in their right mind (stop laughing) who isn't suffering from depression or delusions, I can happily say I would never harm myself.

    However, people who attempt suicide (and those who succeed of course) are not in their right minds.

    For various reasons over the last couple of years, I've been under extreme stress (over and done wth now, thankfully). The stress was so bad it damaged my health. I have kidney damage that could be permanent which, believe it or not, after a plethora of tests, scans, ultrasounds, and being poked and prodded, has been put down to the level of stress I was under.

    During the worst times of extreme stress, something quite interesting happened - my perspective shifted, and suddenly I had a clear and unimpaired view into the abyss, the pit of despair that people end up in when they try to kill themselves. That's all I can describe it as - it was like standing on the edge of a cliff and looking into a pit of hopeless, joyless, misery. Suddenly I understood with disturbing clarity how it is people can kill themselves, I understood the logic behind attempting to kill yourself as a cry for help, and I empathised with people who deliberately self harm.

    I think it is very difficult for happy, well adjusted people to understand. Suicide is selfish to external viewers. To the person attempting to end their life, it's the ultimate solution because they hate themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    No.Honestly,Im too good looking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    I don't think this thread is specifically about depression/suicide though.

    Say you are diagnosed with a terminal illness?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I'd like to think that I wouldn't but, sure, circumstances and people change, like terminal illnesses etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    gary nevillevil, don't call something 'bollox' if you've never been in that frame of mind. Especially something like suicide!

    Learn some respect, Kiera is talking from personal experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    I would say a definite no to killing myself. Can't see anything getting so bad in my life at this stage that I would need to end it.

    I don't know anyone personally who has killed themselves, but I know of people who have died too young etc. who didn't deserve to die and that makes me think twice or more about doing anything to end it all.

    It resolves nothing in the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    yes but I would want to take a lot of innocent people with me too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,413 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    No never. Not while my parents are still alive. I care too much about the people around me. And i would be a coward about it too :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Had an aunt who I would consider was a very strong willed, tough ol' bird. In her sixties. Got cancer, got treatment but it went terminal. After a long, long battle she killed herself. I would guess the pain just was too unimaginable and she felt it was the only way out.

    So yes to the OP. If I was in that much pain with no hope of recovery I think I would kill myself. Whats the point in prolonging such pain ? I'm all for euthanasia(sp?) in such cases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    yes but I would want to take a lot of innocent people with me too

    Two questions to your post - you can choose which one to answer

    1. Em.... Why?

    2. Is this is a lame late hour AH response.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Saibh wrote: »
    Two questions to your post - you can choose which one to answer

    1. Em.... Why?

    2. Is this is a lame late hour AH response.

    To answer your second question yes it is.

    To answer your first question, I find I don't fully appreciate life without the knowledge that I could end my life whenever i wanted. I think I appreciate it more that way. This is just my outlook and it does not necessarily apply to everybody nor am I advocating it for people who have mental health issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭fcleere


    what seems like the most cowardly act a person can do takes more courage than nearly anything anyone will attempt.
    in my mind now,i would swear to never take my life, but unfortunately the mind is a peculiar thing.
    and as regards a terminal illness,id like to think id go out fighting. you oft hear bout people surviving after only been givin a slim chance o survival. usually its not terminal till you're in the ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    bigeasyeah wrote: »
    No.Honestly,Im too good looking.

    Would you say you're drop dead gorgeous? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Heckler


    fcleere wrote: »
    what seems like the most cowardly act a person can do takes more courage than nearly anything anyone will attempt.
    in my mind now,i would swear to never take my life, but unfortunately the mind is a peculiar thing.
    and as regards a terminal illness,id like to think id go out fighting. you oft hear bout people surviving after only been givin a slim chance o survival. usually its not terminal till you're in the ground

    Sorry but you are wrong there. There is a point where an illness is terminal. Just because you're not dead doesn't mean you're not in excruciating pain. Imagine your worst toothache where you think you're going to go mad from it. Can't sleep from it etc. Now multiple that a hundredfold and you might be somewhere close to the pain some people are dealing with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭gary nevillevil


    Rabies wrote: »
    gary nevillevil, don't call something 'bollox' if you've never been in that frame of mind. Especially something like suicide!

    Learn some respect, Kiera is talking from personal experience.

    oh so you know my past?
    and a poster named kiera can call my post bollox! but thats ok?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭pandemonium


    I've tried but i botched it. I woke up. But i took it as a sign that i wasn't meant to die then and it changed everything in my life.i learned that no matter how awful and hopeless everything seems today,tomorrow could be the best day of your life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭holly1


    Iv seen first hand what it can do to a family,and belive me its not a pretty picture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    <Ollie> wrote: »
    Oh yes.
    I need to stop drinking.


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