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Garda gets €15k over stress of tackling naked woman!

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Plascebo wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but can you get AIDS from an infected persons saliva? i.e. if I was to french-kiss an AIDS infected person I could get AIDS???

    Would you be willing to french-kiss aperson with AIDS to see if you catch it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Given I was the one who made the comment and didn't denigrate you and asked for simple answers(and thanked the one you gave), that's hardly polite or befitting.


    Oh, I didn't even look to see who's posted it.

    It was a general statement actually, most of us (including moi) come to AH to talk sh*t.

    But using your argument re. the minister on the range. A soldier only has to do this exercise (and its discontinued now so far as I know) once when he/she is travelling oversea's.

    The hearing damage was caused from years of the government sending troops on range practice & live firing exercises without sufficent hearing protection, despite knowing that to do so was causing substantial damage to soldiers hearing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Zadkiel wrote: »
    You cant tell by looking at someone whether or not they have HIV/AIDS!

    Well I think definitely not with HIV but apparently to some if people look like they're from Nigeria then you can be pretty sure they have it and if they go anywhere near you and sometime later you discover you've somehow been scratched you should go and get an AIDS test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Degsy wrote: »
    Would you be willing to french-kiss aperson with AIDS to see if you catch it?


    Is she hot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Well I think definitely not with HIV but apparently to some if people look like they're from Nigeria then you can be pretty sure they have it and if they go anywhere near you and sometime later you discover you've somehow been scratched you should go and get an AIDS test.

    I'm sorry, but I didn't get that impression of people from this thread.

    I was stabbed by a junkie in a mugging attempt several years ago.
    I got myself tested as a precaution on the off chance that our blood mixed, in the scuffle that ensued.
    Speaking for myself if I thought I had been bitten by someone I would get tested again and make no apologies for it, be they white black red or green I don't care where someone is from!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Anyhow with you it isn't even Nigerians or Africans in question, it's all 'black' people. I think we know where you stand.

    If you have something to say, say it so I can ban you.
    You generally need several exposures to HIV to contract it.

    That depends greatly on how you define a single exposure.
    I am surprised you could pin her down..have you seen the size of those Nigerian women especially the ones with children...

    No more of these comments thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Are you speculating? Let me answer that for you. Yes, yes you are... Unless you have proof that he has done anything wrong, I suggest you stfu about it. Slander... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    He has shafted me out of tax money by using racist prejudice and ignorance. Sue me or stfu lol
    Again, claiming something you are not sure of, slander and speculation, assumptions assumptions, the mother of all fcuk ups. Where is your proof that he is racist, the fact that she is black isn't good enough.

    Leave the legal stuff out please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    brayblue24 wrote: »
    Looked after and taken care of by who exactly. And what are these supposed privileges he apparently has?
    Guards are taken care of if they're injured on duty. Probably even if they're off duty. They have their lunches bought for them, everything. Do you really think the state would just abandon one of their prise pigs? Their insured up the wahzoo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Is she hot?

    Yes:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Degsy wrote: »
    Yes:rolleyes:

    Then yes why not. I've lived for years in a place where HIV infection runs around 38%. I'm 100% certainI've snogged womens with the virus. Don't have HIV though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Then yes why not. I've lived for years in a place where HIV infection runs around 38%. I'm 100% certainI've snogged womens with the virus. Don't have HIV though.


    Boom Boom...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Zadkiel wrote: »
    I'm sorry, but I didn't get that impression of people from this thread.

    It's the cop and his legal advisors I was referring to.
    Zadkiel wrote: »
    I was stabbed by a junkie in a mugging attempt several years ago.
    I got myself tested as a precaution on the off chance that our blood mixed, in the scuffle that ensued.
    Speaking for myself if I thought I had been bitten by someone I would get tested again and make no apologies for it, be they white black red or green I don't care where someone is from!

    Fair enough but the guy wasn't bitten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭bnagrrl


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Guards are taken care of if they're injured on duty. Probably even if they're off duty. They have their lunches bought for them, everything. Do you really think the state would just abandon one of their prise pigs? Their insured up the wahzoo.

    What station are these Gardaí in that have their lunches bought for them?
    Coz I have friends and relatives who are Gardaí and they don't have their lunches bought for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭brayblue24


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Guards are taken care of if they're injured on duty. Probably even if they're off duty. They have their lunches bought for them, everything. Do you really think the state would just abandon one of their prise pigs? Their insured up the wahzoo.

    We buy our own lunches. Any insurance is obtained and maintained privately as is our medical care.

    My other question was "Who takes care of them?"- any answers.

    Gotta love your naivete though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    It's the cop and his legal advisors I was referring to.



    Fair enough but the guy wasn't bitten.

    In the reports I read it said he was unsure of whether he was scraped or bitten. Whats wrong with erring on the side of caution?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Zadkiel wrote: »
    In the reports I read it said he was unsure of whether he was scraped or bitten. Whats wrong with erring on the side of caution?

    Well the reports I've read implied he was perhaps scraped. Really I don't allow that anybody can be bitten by a human hard enough to draw blood and not know about it. I've been bitten a good few times and even without the skin being broken it leaves bruising where the teeth marked.

    There's nothing at all wrong with erring on the side of extreme caution apart from it strikes me as neurotic, some people are like that by nature and I couldn't really blame them for it. What I have issue with is that they deserve €15,000 for being like that. Even if he'd contracted AIDS, in the west it's now merely a chronic disease with a normal life expectancy. To my mind he's got the amount of compensation he'd deserve had he actually contracted it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Honestly I can understand getting paid time off for trauma, but getting 15k and paid time off cause you got a scratch is taking the piss slightly.. :eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Well the reports I've read implied he was perhaps scraped. Really I don't allow that anybody can be bitten by a human hard enough to draw blood and not know about it. I've been bitten a good few times and even without the skin being broken it leaves bruising where the teeth marked.

    There's nothing at all wrong with erring on the side of extreme caution apart from it strikes me as neurotic, some people are like that by nature and I couldn't really blame them for it. What I have issue with is that they deserve €15,000 for being like that. Even if he'd contracted AIDS, in the west it's now merely a chronic disease with a normal life expectancy. To my mind he's got the amount of compensation he'd deserve had he actually contracted it.
    I'm not talking about his compensation I don't think he should necessarily have gotten 15,000 either, what I am trying to assert is that his getting tested was neither paranoid, racist or neurotic. I don't think its something that one should be nonchalant about even if the chances of contracting HIV/AIDS is remote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Zadkiel wrote: »
    In the reports I read it said he was unsure of whether he was scraped or bitten. Whats wrong with erring on the side of caution?

    I think I'd know if someone put their chops around my arm, seriously - "I dont know if she bit me or scraped me".. it wasnt a stampede of Nigerian women it was one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    I think I'd know if someone put their chops around my arm, seriously - "I dont know if she bit me or scraped me".. it wasnt a stampede of Nigerian women it was one.

    As someone else said in the heat of the moment he may not have felt it.
    I have in the past sustained injuries I havent noticed until the adrenaline wore off!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    brayblue24 wrote: »
    We buy our own lunches. Any insurance is obtained and maintained privately as is our medical care.

    My other question was "Who takes care of them?"- any answers.

    Gotta love your naivete though!

    Look Bray, let's be honest, members of the Gardai do have a lot of privileges, from cheaper pizzas in certain pizza shops (I know because I've worked in them) to the Gardai Credit Union. Don't say the job does not come without the perks.

    Now the main question I put to you regarding this is: When you sign up to be a Garda, are you not aware of the potenial dangers involved with the job and if so why should this Garda be compensated?

    As mentioned earlier in the thread, it's like a Fireman getting compensated for smoke inhalation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Fizman wrote: »
    If I had a penny for every time i've chased a naked, screaming woman......i'd be about €15,000 better off as well.

    ...and snyper would be Ireland's richest man... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    This could be the basis of a new RTE game show:

    Men dress up in Garda uniforms and chase naked, histerical women down main streets in towns across the country. Whoever catches the woman quickest wins 15k.

    I'd watch it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Plascebo wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but can you get AIDS from an infected persons saliva? i.e. if I was to french-kiss an AIDS infected person I could get AIDS???

    I don't think so.....

    So if they bite me, how do I get AIDS, unless they have a bloody injury to their mouth, which I'm sure would have been noticed.

    Technically you can contract aids from most bodily fluids, saliva being one. What you can contract very easily and is more common is hep. Someone could spit in your face and you could get it.
    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    How can you not see that he's just some chancer? I'm sure in both those cases the pain was noticable immediately and didn't subside. I've busted my nose, my leg and my collarbone before now, hurts some but you don't know they're broken right away. By contrast any time I've had a serious cut the flowing blood made it apparent immediately. Have gone without noticing scrapes for a long while, even days.

    With 6 billion people in this world, you think everyone experiences things the same? :eek:

    Also, why is everyone pissed off at the copper, get annoyed at the system, it's the systems fault not the coppers.
    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Well the reports I've read implied he was perhaps scraped. Really I don't allow that anybody can be bitten by a human hard enough to draw blood and not know about it. I've been bitten a good few times and even without the skin being broken it leaves bruising where the teeth marked.

    There's nothing at all wrong with erring on the side of extreme caution apart from it strikes me as neurotic, some people are like that by nature and I couldn't really blame them for it. What I have issue with is that they deserve €15,000 for being like that. Even if he'd contracted AIDS, in the west it's now merely a chronic disease with a normal life expectancy. To my mind he's got the amount of compensation he'd deserve had he actually contracted it.

    Ah sure it's ok to get aids in the west then, it won't effect your life at all... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


    I think I'd know if someone put their chops around my arm, seriously - "I dont know if she bit me or scraped me".. it wasnt a stampede of Nigerian women it was one.

    He didn't deny being injured, he was unsure how the injury was caused, which is perfectly understandable... well for most it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    ScumLord wrote: »
    ... on top of all the privileges he already has.
    Which ones, exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Zadkiel


    deadwood wrote: »
    Which ones, exactly?

    Free pizza's apparently :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Guards are taken care of if they're injured on duty. Probably even if they're off duty. They have their lunches bought for them, everything. Do you really think the state would just abandon one of their prise pigs? Their insured up the wahzoo.
    That answers my earlier question, I guess. Couldn't argue with that.

    I pay my own insurance.....in case I get bitten by naked women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    Naos wrote: »
    Look Bray, let's be honest, members of the Gardai do have a lot of privileges, from cheaper pizzas in certain pizza shops (I know because I've worked in them) to the Gardai Credit Union.
    True, the odd cup of coffee etc. is nice to get.



    How is the Credit Union a privelage though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    Zadkiel wrote: »
    Free pizza's apparently :rolleyes:

    What's with the rolleyes? I stated that as a very low example - I never made it out like this is a big deal.
    deadwood wrote: »
    True, the odd cup of coffee etc. is nice to get.

    How is the Credit Union a privelage though?

    Are the Gardai CU rates the same as a normal CU?

    Also if you can answer the main question I put to Bray, these privileges were merely OT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    Understandable,I read the paper a few months ago about a similar case,it runined the coppers personel life.It took 6 months to get the results,and he broke up with his long term girlfriend over the stress and all that.

    Its not as simple as you seeing the cut,going to the doctor and living your live as normal until the results come out.The mental trauma must be something serious.


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