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Unsolicitated Texts from Poker Rooms

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  • #152
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    All I can do is lol at this thread. If Ross wanted to intentionally sabotage his business he couldn't have picked a better canditate than Paul to have a go at. The allogations are crazy.

    I am also amazed that Ross hasn't replied given Ste05's post. Losing this forum as a means of marketing is asking for an early visit to the dole office.

    edit: Bad timing on my part. Fair play to Ross for coming on and clearing it all up


  • #153
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,285 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Well done on the apology, however im still interested in what Macs supposedly did to warrant the barring in the first place?


  • #154
    Samba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    The Poker Room wrote: »
    Sorry I was in the club until late this morning and just got to this now.

    I just sent paul an apology, I over reacted and for that I am truly sorry.

    Paul is welcome to any event that i run in the future.

    Sometimes in life you make mistakes and over react and for that i am sorry. I have fully read this thread and have taken people's feedback on board.

    I have also deleted all boardies from our texting lists and in future you will be given the option to opt in to getting texts and there will be a stop function on all texts we send.

    Ross.

    So have you set a date for the 5k freeroll mentioned by Flushdraw?:D

    Kudos for the apology.


  • #155
    BigCityBanker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Ive heard it through the Grapevine that Macs was allegedly monopolising the chinese buffet - totally out of order imo.

    wp to Ross - the man who hasnt made a mistake in life has made nothing!


  • #156
    Maisie Greasy Underarm
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Maisie Greasy Underarm


    Allegedly the Poker Room is to put on some spelling lessons for Boards Poker Players.

    These allegations have not been denied or confirmed.


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  • #157
    eoghan104
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    WP Ross I now look forward to a trip down to Cellbridge sometime soon.......


  • #158
    carfax
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭carfax


    The Poker Room wrote: »
    Sorry I was in the club until late this morning and just got to this now. I just sent paul an apology, I over reacted and for that I am truly sorry. Paul is welcome to any event that i run in the future. Ross.

    Fair play Ross, it takes a big enough man to apologise and admit a mistake.

    I hope Macs is not put out by it. If anything Macs you can see just how well respected you are on the forum :)...

    Stephen.


  • #159
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    The Poker Room wrote: »
    Sorry I was in the club until late this morning and just got to this now.

    I just sent paul an apology, I over reacted and for that I am truly sorry.

    Paul is welcome to any event that i run in the future.

    Sometimes in life you make mistakes and over react and for that i am sorry. I have fully read this thread and have taken people's feedback on board.

    I have also deleted all boardies from our texting lists and in future you will be given the option to opt in to getting texts and there will be a stop function on all texts we send.

    Ross.

    nh.


  • #160
    YULETIRED
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    Good man Ross, (and LOL at the Chinese buffet comment BCB) You have apologised and I don't think you should answer any more questions on the topic.

    I suggest the (ever vigilant ) Mods lock it now and we move forward. I was never snubbing the place as I thought the whole thread was an overreaction. (as my post to Damo alluded to)


    :D:D


  • #161
    Trippie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    While I dont want to be seen as stirring things up but while the apology is well and good it still doesn't change the fact that an explanation was asked for as to what bad behavior macs had done. After all some comments were still made an explanation still hasn't been given for it. either there was an overreaction to something trivial macs has done or the actions were made up and just something to throw in there as to cover up the real reason to the banning which appears to be the txt thread. just my 2c


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  • #162
    YULETIRED
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    Trippie wrote: »
    While I dont want to be seen as stirring things up but while the apology is well and good it still doesn't change the fact that an explanation was asked for as to what bad behavior macs had done. After all some comments were still made an explanation still hasn't been given for it. either there was an overreaction to something trivial macs has done or the actions were made up and just something to throw in there as to cover up the real reason to the banning which appears to be the txt thread. just my 2c

    FFS Trippie, let it go, you are worse than Irish Kelt.


  • #163
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    TextGate ftw!


  • #164
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,856 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Less use of that 'L' word please.


  • #165
    Flushdraw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    5starpool wrote: »
    Less use of that 'L' word please.

    They called Macs a lesbian? :confused:


  • #166
    RichieLawlor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    YULETIRED wrote: »
    FFS Trippie, let it go, you are worse than Irish Kelt.

    No word from Macs, is he satisfied with this, we still dont know what he did to cause this overreaction


  • #167
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I would agree. To ban someone like that it it should be something fairly serious & to just dismiss it as an over reaction is a bit much to accept


  • #168
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Trippie wrote: »
    While I dont want to be seen as stirring things up but while the apology is well and good it still doesn't change the fact that an explanation was asked for as to what bad behavior macs had done. After all some comments were still made an explanation still hasn't been given for it. either there was an overreaction to something trivial macs has done or the actions were made up and just something to throw in there as to cover up the real reason to the banning which appears to be the txt thread. just my 2c



    +1.


    While the apology is good to see, in my book it still says a huge amount about someone/how they will run there business when they make up false acquisitions and are willing to slander someone's good name just because they got touchy over him not wanting to be spammed with texts.


  • #169
    YULETIRED
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    5starpool wrote: »
    Less use of that 'L' word please.

    huh, what was edited?


  • #170
    Trippie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    5starpool wrote: »
    Less use of that 'L' word please.

    sorry completely slipped my mind


  • #171
    YULETIRED
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    So Ross did what the mods asked of him, what do you expect Paul to do now that would in anyway be useful?
    Demand an another apology with bells on it? :rolleyes:


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  • #172
    notilt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭notilt


    Methinks the threat of the loss of Boards as free advertisements may well have had something to do with the apology , what about the non Boards players , are they treated this way ?


  • #173
    RichieLawlor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    YULETIRED wrote: »
    So Ross did what the mods asked of him, what do you expect Paul to do now that would in anyway be useful?
    Demand an another apology with bells on it? :rolleyes:

    The Pokerroom basically did what it was told to do to avoid a Boards ban. What did macs do to bring on this overreaction.


  • #174
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    YULETIRED wrote: »
    So Ross did what the mods asked of him, what do you expect Paul to do now that would in anyway be useful?
    Demand an another apology with bells on it? :rolleyes:



    No one saying demand another apology, what I dont get is all the posters who have said "I'll never go to the poker rooms in cellbrigde or tallaght again unless they say sorry" but then when they do say sorry everyone is all "Ah fair play, I'll see you lads in their on saturday." I dont play any live poker really, but I certainly wouldnt be rushing to either place just because Ross happened to pick on the worst person on boards he could find to slander. If someone who wasnt as well known/popular as macs alot o f people would of probaly believed the lies ross told and that's pretty damaging to a persons name.


  • #175
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    YULETIRED wrote: »
    So Ross did what the mods asked of him, what do you expect Paul to do now that would in anyway be useful?
    Demand an another apology with bells on it? :rolleyes:

    100% agree. Move on already.


  • #176
    DAMO72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭DAMO72


    Give it a rest guy's , Ross has said that he had over reacted and has appologised to Paul . Now stop looking for blood. Fair play Ross


  • #177
    RichieLawlor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    just because Ross happened to pick on the worst person on boards he could find to slander. If someone who wasnt as well known/popular as macs alot o f people would of probaly believed the lies ross told and that's pretty damaging to a persons name.

    MES1151.jpg


  • #178
    YULETIRED
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    No one saying demand another apology, what I dont get is all the posters who have said "I'll never go to the poker rooms in cellbrigde or tallaght again unless they say sorry" but then when they do say sorry everyone is all "Ah fair play, I'll see you lads in their on saturday." I dont play any live poker really, but I certainly wouldnt be rushing to either place just because Ross happened to pick on the worst person on boards he could find to slander. If someone who wasnt as well known/popular as macs alot o f people would of probaly believed the lies ross told and that's pretty damaging to a persons name.

    what's not to get here? :confused::confused:


  • #179
    ditpoker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    cliff notes anyone?

    for what its worth I blame the recession, the cause of and solution to all problems.


  • #180
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


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  • #181
    ditpoker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Jaysus, better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. :rolleyes:

    that just wasn't helpful


  • #182
    Slash/ED
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    ditpoker wrote: »
    cliff notes anyone?

    - Macs complains about texts from it turns out The Poker Room
    - In retaliation, they ban him from their rooms and make up lies about his behaviour
    - Everyone on boards goes wtf? Macs is the most mild mannered person in Ireland, this is obviously a petty lie in retaliation, people say their business will suffer, Macs isn't impressed. Asks them to publically say what they're accusing him of.
    - They don't, opnion turns on them and they're told they wont get to use the best free advertising medium in Ireland for their business. They obviously didn't realise how foolish it was to accuse Macspower of all things of bad behaviour.
    - As if by miracle, an apology appears around the time it seems their business will suffer, without any real explanation of what they were talking about
    - Everyone's happy

    That's about it :pac:


  • #183
    KevIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,626 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Seems like this thread is done for now.

    Macs - If you want right to reply thats fine, just PM one of the mods and we'll reopen it for you


  • #184
    Donkathon
    Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Donkathon


    in before relock:)


  • #185
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    YULETIRED wrote: »
    what's not to get here? :confused::confused:


    I phrased that poorly alright. I think people get the idea though. Obviously some think an apology is all that's needed, I dont. Different strokes, I guess once Macs is happy then that's what matters.


  • #186
    derealbadger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭derealbadger


    I had this post ready to go earlier when the thread got locked... Too much work and copying and pasting went into it to delete it... SO here goes

    Ok lets look at the whole senario again..

    cliff notes you asked for?

    Macs attends Poker Rooms in tallaght and celbridge he posts about his visits here and praises the club http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...poker+tallaght

    Macs plays at boardsie night and get knocked out and returns home and praises the club here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055553835

    He gets unwanted texts and replies asking to be removed from list
    he still gets them
    he posts here
    other boardsies also getting same texts
    Club owner notified by moderator
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    The owner of the club in question has been informed about this thread. I would agree that a text every day is irritating - although notice about monthly games / special events would be appreciated.

    Poker Room replies offering to remove number from list and apologies
    The Poker Room wrote: »
    Hi,

    I will happily remove anyone from the text list at your request, simply Pm me your number and the number that you have been receiving texts from.

    Most people complain about lack of numbers at tournaments, In order for a new club to get numbers it has to get the message out there. A lot of people like the texts and get annoyed when they dont get them but we dont want to annoy people who don't want them.

    So I am sorry If the texts have annoyed you but everyone who requests will be removed ASAP . As for sharing numbers it doesn't happen as far as I know. If your getting text you have signed up to the club and put down your text number its as simple as that.

    Thanks Ross The Poker Room.

    Macs thanks him here and sends him number by PM
    Macspower wrote: »
    Thanks for your PM Ross,

    I have sent you my phone number to have it removed.

    I hadn't mention your club in particular as I also get them from elsewhere and they havn't stopped as yet...but they are not as frequent as yours..

    When I need to see whats on I'll take a look at your website.

    SURELY THAT SHOULD AHVE BEEN THE END OF THE MATTER?

    BUT NO..

    Poker room ban Macs by PM
    Macspower wrote: »
    WOW....

    Just recieved a PM from The Poker Room informing me not to worry about recieving any more texts as I am barred from all his venues!!

    thoughts?

    THEN THE BIGGIE

    Poker Room insinuates that Macspower has misbehaved in some way or cheated or something on more than one occassion.. this is totally unacceptable IMO
    The Poker Room wrote: »
    Hi Paul,

    The reason your banned is not due to this thread its due to your behaviour on several visits to both my rooms.

    Will not go in to details on a public forum but I am sure you can guess.

    Macs Calls them out on it and demands a retraction and apology

    Many many boardsies get behind Macs and vouch for his character

    some 7 hours later the poker room make this reply.. hardly a spur of the moment thing and still refuse to apologise or retract
    Not going to go into details, i will be happy to speak to Paul about it directly but as I said It wan't happen on a public forum.

    With regard to texts we use a text service and if you reply to the text, the reply doesn't go to me. As an owner of a venue I am pretty visable and regularly post on boards giving my name and phone number. So If you wish to be removed from a list then please ask.

    Also If you have posted on this thread with regard to receiveing unwanted text messages I have P.M'd everyone asking for their number so i can remove you.

    I spent the weekend at the Red Cow when i went back to my car there was a flyer from another Card Club (I didn't ask for the flyer and I had to physically remove it) but I understand to have the great live poker scene that Ireland has, it has to have a competitive market in order to do that Card Clubs have to advertise.

    Once again I am sorry if the text messages have offended you and if you wish to be removed please PM me with your name and number.

    Our clubs do our very best to provide value for money and variety in the games we offer, We keep our promises and our business is transparent, over 1,000 players a week play in our clubs with a pretty high approval rating but lifes about choice and in the end it's up to you where you play.

    People love to have a pop its the nature of the forum, that's ok.

    A poker moderator comes on and gives the Poker Room an ultimatum.. accuse/apologise/retract or loose boards privilages
    As The Poker Room knows (or ought to know), one of the main rules for organisers and cardrooms that use boards to promote their events is that they have to answer any reasonable question asked of them by a boards member, Macspower has been very reasonable in his requests here, The Poker Room has stated publicly that they have barred Macspower "due to your behaviour on several visits to both my rooms".

    Macspower has stated publicly that he would like these allegations clarified in this thread to give him an opportunity to clear his name and he deserves an answer or a retraction and an apology. If one or other isn't forthcoming The Poker Room will lose the privilege of using boards to promote their events and Card Rooms.

    Ste05

    Loads more boardises join the support and the Poker room looks destined to go the way of another poker club that took the 5th ammendment

    Poker Room realises that loosing boards privilages could hurt them as could the whole senario and post apology.
    Sorry I was in the club until late this morning and just got to this now.

    I just sent paul an apology, I over reacted and for that I am truly sorry.

    Paul is welcome to any event that i run in the future.

    Sometimes in life you make mistakes and over react and for that i am sorry. I have fully read this thread and have taken people's feedback on board.

    I have also deleted all boardies from our texting lists and in future you will be given the option to opt in to getting texts and there will be a stop function on all texts we send.

    Ross.

    boardsies seem divided on the apology...

    Personally Knowing Paul for many many years I knew there could be no thruth in the alligations but if I was a stranger on here reading the thread one might think "there is no smoke without fire"

    It will be interesting to see if macs accepts the apology that was sent to him... although knowing him he is too nice of a guy not to..

    IMO the apology is all well and good BUT and it is a big BUT they have commented on a good mans name in a public forum and an apology was forced from the mods and the mob.. the bare minimum was given to get back to post on boards.

    NO retraction was made
    NO clearing of Macspowers good name

    anyway I'm sure any decent boardsie will see the whole matter for what it is.

    PS I have told Paul that the apology has been posted and he will be on soon to reply he says


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  • #187
    Slash/ED
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    I phrased that poorly alright. I think people get the idea though. Obviously some think an apology is all that's needed, I dont. Different strokes, I guess once Macs is happy then that's what matters.

    But it's not even about Macs himself really, it's that this has shown how they treat their paying customers. It's not a personal issue, it's how it reflects on the attitude of the people running the place. If Macspower had 2 posts on here and nobody knew who he was so the banning didn't get this reaction, call me crazy, but I don't think an apology would have been so quick to come. The issue here is the club banned a player for petty, infantile reasons, lied about the reasons so he'd seem the one to blame, got caught and is now backtracking because of the potential cost to the club and no other reason. If the apology was genuine it'd have come long ago, in their other post in this thread after the banning.

    For me it's not whether he accepts the apology or not but how this has reflected on the people running the club and how they will treat paying customers.


  • #188
    Ste05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    derealbadger wrote: »
    A poker moderator comes on and gives the Poker Room an ultimatum.. accuse/apologise/retract or loose boards privilages
    Just one item of clarification. I didn't offer them 3 options, I offered 2: (1) Clarify the accusations relating to Macspowers' "behaviour on several visits to both my rooms" in public, as requested; or (2) Retract the statement and apologise.

    If Macspower is happy this has been done to his satisfaction, then it's fine by me and we can all move on, if not we can re-visit the issue and seek further clarification from The Poker Room.

    Ste05


  • #189
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    just to try go back slightly on topic :D am I the only one who didnt mind the reminder texts? they werent that bad FFS?


  • #190
    Macspower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Macspower


    thanks for opening this again for me guys..

    Firstly let me say how overwhelmed I have been by the support of the people on this forum.. My PM box and my phone have been hopping with people offering support..

    Many many thanks to you all..

    Also thanks to the moderators for their excellent modding here..

    Anyway
    Serious alligations were made against my character by the owner of a club. An apology was offered

    when someone offers a handshake and an apology I am always the gentleman and take their hand immediately...

    So apology accepted..


  • #191
    Macspower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Macspower


    Ste05 wrote: »
    Just one item of clarification. I didn't offer them 3 options, I offered 2: (1) Clarify the accusations relating to Macspowers' "behaviour on several visits to both my rooms" in public, as requested; or (2) Retract the statement and apologise.

    If Macspower is happy this has been done to his satisfaction, then it's fine by me and we can all move on, if not we can re-visit the issue and seek further clarification from The Poker Room.

    Ste05

    While I would also have preferred a retraction and apology I'm prepared to let it end here.

    If the mods feel there is more to be answered to meet posting requirments feel free to ask away


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  • #192
    thedini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭thedini


    ..... end of!!!!!


  • #193
    toHex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭toHex


    ianmc38 wrote: »
    Popcorn pic?

    popcorn_100000.jpg


  • #194
    Ste05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Macspower wrote: »
    So apology accepted..
    I think that concludes this issue.

    If The Poker Room wants to reply or post in the thread just PM a mod and we'll either post on your behalf or re-open the thread for you.

    Ste05

    Locked (again... :rolleyes:)


  • #195
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Macspower wrote: »
    Firstly let me say how overwhelmed I have been by the support of the people on this forum.. My PM box and my phone have been hopping with people offering support..
    I for one didnt send a PM, i hate those people who send unsolicited PMs. :pac:


  • #196
    Theresalwaysone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    Maybe its my immaturity showing but I really dont think an apology cuts it here. Yeah fair play for actually bothering to write a message of apology, no retraction or explanation of the accusations, because your hands were tied. Apology under duress.

    I dont think its unreasonable to assume that someone who will, unprovoked and unneccessarily try and blemish a persons name will only apologise when he feels he has something to lose. The apology was pretty much a token gesture. Ridiculous.

    Not good enough for me tbh but that doesnt matter. All that matters is macs accepted it and fair play to him too.


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