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[US/IRL] 5X06 - "316" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

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  • #122
    anotherlostie
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    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    Am i the only one who realized that Frank was The Lawnmower Man after he cleaned him self up?

    Nope. When Jeff Fahey joined the cast it was commented on here that he had changed (aged) a lot since the days of The Lawnmower Man.

    On another topic, I'm wondering how did the Ajira contingent land on the island in the 1970's and not 2007. Unless the island moved again after they got there (plausible if they were unconscious).


  • #123
    Snake Plisken
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    Great episode, a solid 10, not happy if Locke is really dead, also the Jin in a Dharma suite would have been a great ending if it wasn't for those corksuckers at Sky visiting the set during filming of episode 10 and we seeing spoilery stuff that shouldn't be mentioned here....


  • #124
    EKRIUQ
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Saïd Taghmaoui played an Iraqi torturer (called Saïd) in Three Kings. Maybe he's Sayeed's proxy?
    He also in next weeks episode
    The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham


  • #125
    Sad Professor
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    Requiem4adream wrote: »
    Also, as i said previously, if the island is always moving then how did Michael and Walt getting off make sense? Bearing 325? How did Ben know where exactly the island was at that point in time?
    I don't think it makes any difference. Imagine the island as a mobile home. From the POV of the person inside, the door is always in the same place. The bearing is just the direction to the door. Although I'm unable reconcile the 325 Ben gave Michael with the 305 Faraday used last season. I reckon the writers just made a mistake.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Ben seemed pretty nonchalant about the purple sky though, didn't he? If that event had stopped the island moving and made it possible for the island to be found then surely he would have tried to get it moving again almost immediately. Plus I don't think he would have messed with Locke's mind and told him pushing the button was pointless if it was that vital for the island's security.
    I used to have a perfect theory that explained all this. The short version: Ben was only a Dharma janitor and didn't know the true purpose of The Swan, only Dharma high command knew about it. Everyone else thought it was a psychological experiment as indicated in the Pearl video. Ben did push the button but only in order to contact his people, he didn't really think anything would happen if he didn't. So when he told Locke it was a joke, he believed he was telling the truth.

    But that was all back in season 3 when I still thought the writers would make some attempt to explain Ben's behaviour. Since then they've made him into a complete pathological liar who lies about everything even when he doesn't have to. So it's probably a waste of time putting any thought into anything Ben has ever said, since the writers can just come along in the future and say he lied about it.
    On that point though haven't the Dharma Initiative been able to locate the island? Maybe I'm confused here but didn't they drop off supplies via an aeroplane in one of the earlier seasons? If so then perhaps pushing the button, besides dealing with electro-magnetism as Kelvin talked about, also acted as a way for them to keep in touch with the island's whereabouts. That could explain why Ben left Des down there to push the button and make everything seen hunky dory?
    I think Dharma is gone, wiped out, extinct, all of them. Re: food drops, how about this: Dharma dropped all of them over the island in the 70s at the wrong bearing and (like the doctor washing ashore last season) the food drops arrived at different dates in the future.
    The Gnome wrote: »
    Perhaps the island is always physically moving, whereas the wheel is related to moving in time? Just a thought.
    Yeah, that's what I'm starting to lean towards now as well. So maybe when Ben turned the wheel the island shifted forward 3 years. And what's happening to the Losties is a totally separate thing related to their exposure to electromagnetism.

    And the button: ugh, god knows. I've always been desperate to try and tie it with the larger story but it's a waste of time. The writers seem to think it's all wrapped up. In which case, I think season 2 is rendered kinda pointless.


  • #126
    Unpossible
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    And who is this "very clever man" who wrote all the equations? Is it Widmore? Is Widmore Daniel Farradays father?
    Don't know if its been mentioned yet, but could it have been Daniel ? :eek:


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  • #127
    Requiem4adream
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    I don't think it makes any difference. Imagine the island as a mobile home. From the POV of the person inside, the door is always in the same place. The bearing is just the direction to the door. Although I'm unable reconcile the 325 Ben gave Michael with the 305 Faraday used last season. I reckon the writers just made a mistake.

    Let's assume you've been blindfolded and the mobile home has been moved. You know where the door is but when you open it what's to say you're not at the edge of a cliff or the side of a lake? i.e. Ben said follow Bearing 325 and you'll find help. If the Island is constantly moving, and he's unaware where it is, how does he know they'd find help?

    Edit - IMO at the time Michael and Walt left the island, the writers had no clue about this island-moving business.


  • #128
    Sad Professor
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    Requiem4adream wrote: »
    Let's assume you've been blindfolded and the mobile home has been moved. You know where the door is but when you open it what's to say you're not at the edge of a cliff or the side of a lake? i.e. Ben said follow Bearing 325 and you'll find help. If the Island is constantly moving, and he's unaware where it is, how does he know they'd find help
    Yeah, good point. However, the "you'll find help" line probably just meant that once Michael was outside the realm of the island he would be more likely to find help. But I don't think Ben really cared one way or another. I assume this was before he learned of the freighter and found a use for Michael.
    Edit - IMO at the time Michael and Walt left the island, the writers had no clue about this island-moving business.
    They definitely didn't know about the Orchid and the Donkey Wheel. But they must have had some explanation for why no one had rescued the Losties. And the always-moving-island theory had been around since season 1. I actually like the idea and think it makes sense, it just sort of conflicts with what we were told last season.


  • #129
    stevejazzx
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Yeah, good point. However, the "you'll find help" line probably just meant that once Michael was outside the realm of the island he would be more likely to find help. But I don't think Ben really cared one way or another. I assume this was before he learned of the freighter and found a use for Michael.


    Or else Ben knows when the Island is going to be where and was able to get Michael to leave at a time that was safe. However the other big probelm is, if the Island is always moving to new 'locations' as it were, then supposing it is a rather large entity wouldn't it be in risk of colliding into something? I know the ocean is large, but still, given enough moves, theoretically it could - so surely there can only be a couple of locations like those at either end of wormholes or something like that.


    For this reason I am thinking that the island is moving through time with the location fixed but there many problems with that, one being the way it disapears from view of the helicopter end of season 4. Originally I thought that this was becasue the window to the Island was lost/moved after Ben turned the wheel. I thought that somehow the Island was in another location altogether and that the window to it was a wormhole. I still think the island is a temperature controlled land at the north pole but accessed through this wormhole in the pacific...? I'm most likely way
    off!
    They definitely didn't know about the Orchid and the Donkey Wheel. But they must have had some explanation for why no one had rescued the Losties. And the always-moving-island theory had been around since season 1. I actually like the idea and think it makes sense, it just sort of conflicts with what we were told last season.

    I don't think anyone can question that there are a lot of references to time throughout, I really think the wirters are coming under undue pressure, I know they have 'expanded' the original ideas but after looking at all the evidence I do beliebve they always had time travel as a main concept.


  • #130
    doctor evil
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    How can Hurley changing his mind not be explained?

    Loved the episode, I wonder what happenned with Erin, perhaps he went to Claires mother. I hope she didn't go mad and do away with him. Good way of introducing the new characters. How many of them will be redshirts

    I wonder who Ben had a run in with?


  • #131
    doctor evil
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    If Dharma have all been wiped out (The Others, possibly Widmore when he is off the island) than that could explain why the Red Head's mother denied that the two had lived on the island.

    Perhaps this plane does not crash? They had turbalance so perhaps got too close to the island electrical/magnetic field. The O6 had connections to the island (lived, slept, eaten on it, absorbed energy) so they were pulled back into the island. When the island was at that location for the plane (space not time) how long was that 'window' open for?

    Is there two seperate shifts going on?

    One time wise cock up on the interior of the island which effected only the Losties (nice way of doing off Red Shirts) that was caused by Ben and rectified by Locke (he had better come back!)

    Will we get a flashback on how the rest of the Others are effected by the flashes or are they in some kind of bunker.

    The other being the Island itself moving in location to avoid being spotted by aerial photography. How does it not end up on land? Maybe it only has fixed locations where it can go in any order.

    If Ben and Daniel are related it could be along the paternal line.

    I don't see what there is to be gained from this. Eloise may keep some very close to her chest that not even Ben knows about.

    How much about the Island does Ben know?


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  • #132
    Sad Professor
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    I just came across a really great theory on The Fuselage:

    It looks like only the O6 (or just Jack, Kate & Hurley) were flashed off the plane to Dharma time. So what if the plane and the rest of the passengers flew over the island in present time (2008) and, instead of crashing, Frank managed to land the plane on the runway the Others were building on Hydra island. Everyone disembarks and uses outriggers to travel across to the main island, hence the reason the Lefties (Sawyer and co) found them there in 5x04.

    I love this idea!


  • #133
    AnonoBoy
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    The idea that there were people on the original flight who needed to get back to the island doesn't work. Because the flight went 1000 miles off course after the radio went out and they diverted to land in Fiji.

    So it wouldn't have gone over the island in the normal course of events.


  • #134
    MisterAnarchy
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    Absolutely rubbish episode.
    Without doubt the worst episode ever.
    Its getting more and more preposterous ,its laughable now,utterly ridiculous.
    That pendulum nonsense,mathematical equations ,the shoes,Lockes suicide ,getting back on the island,its nuts,completely off the wall stuff.
    I'm all in favour of scifi but this is just plain ridiculous.
    The Oceanic six are all obviously completely insane .


  • #135
    anotherlostie
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Absolutely rubbish episode.
    Without doubt the worst episode ever.
    Its getting more and more preposterous ,its laughable now,utterly ridiculous.
    That pendulum nonsense,mathematical equations ,the shoes,Lockes suicide ,getting back on the island,its nuts,completely off the wall stuff.
    I'm all in favour of scifi but this is just plain ridiculous.
    The Oceanic six are all obviously completely insane .
    Nobody's forcing you to watch! Or does the island have a hold over you too?:)


  • #136
    MisterAnarchy
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    anotherlostie wrote: »
    Nobody's forcing you to watch! Or does the island have a hold over you too?:)

    I need to get back to the Island myself;)
    I'll rig up one of them pendulums in the garage later .
    Seriously though its just getting two far fetched ,contrived,illogical and full of plot holes.


  • #137
    sapper
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  • #138
    Requiem4adream
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Absolutely rubbish episode.
    Without doubt the worst episode ever.
    Its getting more and more preposterous ,its laughable now,utterly ridiculous.
    That pendulum nonsense,mathematical equations ,the shoes,Lockes suicide ,getting back on the island,its nuts,completely off the wall stuff.
    I'm all in favour of scifi but this is just plain ridiculous.
    The Oceanic six are all obviously completely insane .

    In all fairness, imo, this ^ is not exactly a "whine about Lost" per se. To be fair, it's probably symptomatic of how a lot of people are feeling. I think even the most hardcore admirers of the show (myself included, and the likes of SP etc) are finding it hard to reconcile some of this stuff - like the Lamp-post scene seems to be totally ruined by the scene with Mrs Hawking and Jack. We get a lot of science, fine, then the part with the shoes. Kinda like they want the science and the mysticism, even if it contradicts or makes not a lot of sense.

    Once you start going into time travel, it's how they handle it that makes the difference. The Constant was an example of how people wont think too deeply into it if the quality of the episode, writing et al, is really high. They're in a territory now that the further they go down this path, there will be more and more stuff that will be harder to reconcile from previous seasons. If by the end of the complete run, you could watch all the boxsets and it makes relative sense, most people will be happy whatever the ending. It's just looking unlikely at this point.


  • #139
    ArmaniJeanss
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Great episode, a solid 10, not happy if Locke is really dead, also the Jin in a Dharma suite would have been a great ending if it wasn't for those corksuckers at Sky visiting the set during filming of episode 10 and xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx why the fcuk are you giving future ep spoilers xxxxxxxxxxxx
    :(

    :mad:


  • #140
    JohnK
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    I don't think it makes any difference. Imagine the island as a mobile home. From the POV of the person inside, the door is always in the same place. The bearing is just the direction to the door. Although I'm unable reconcile the 325 Ben gave Michael with the 305 Faraday used last season. I reckon the writers just made a mistake.
    Maybe Bens figure was the safest exit point from the island and Faraday was just close to it but not quite there. Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt people die or get sick after going through Faradays exit point?


  • #141
    me-skywalker
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    missingtime wrote: »
    Were there people on that flight trying to get back to the Island?

    Im surprsied nobody has mentioned this yet that the very first scene ever of lost is the exact scene used in this episode!! this to me would be a huge clue hat Jack has already done this or will do this again to come back to the island to the 815 first point of contact...
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    The idea that there were people on the original flight who needed to get back to the island doesn't work. Because the flight went 1000 miles off course after the radio went out and they diverted to land in Fiji.

    So it wouldn't have gone over the island in the normal course of events.

    But it could have been taken 1000 miles off course because the island had moved into its range and it got pulled in closer... or when the island moved the plane moved with it.


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  • #142
    MOH
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    Helix wrote: »
    some quite embarrassing bits in this one too, almost like it was written by someone else. the lapida line was horrible both in idea and delivery, as was ms hawkings line to jack

    Maybe it's just cos I was expecting it, but when Lapidus comes on the intercom to introduce himself, Jack visibly reacts when he hears his name, but Kate doesn't seem to notice. Then about 2 seconds later she's sitting there looking shocked. Looked a bit weird.
    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    Ok. You work on a plane and you see the oceanic 6 boarding. For all that you know, the last time these guys where on a plane together it crashed and everybody but them died. I'd be off that plane in a fúckin' heart beat.

    Was a bit surprised no one notice that the O6 had all booked on board the same flight, a the last minute. Especially with Hurley booking out 78 seats, kind of thing that gets reported.


    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    Thats the reason i found that scene funny has we all know Bens mum was dead and that he cant stop lying.

    I'd forgotten she was dead. Lol.
    pickarooney wrote: »
    Saïd Taghmaoui played an Iraqi torturer (called Saïd) in Three Kings. Maybe he's Sayeed's proxy?

    He was also the Qumari ambassador in thr West Wing. Maybe he's an ambassador for peace with the Dharma gang?
    anotherlostie wrote: »
    On another topic, I'm wondering how did the Ajira contingent land on the island in the 1970's and not 2007. Unless the island moved again after they got there (plausible if they were unconscious).

    As people have said, they were flying over the island (present) and got caught in the time flash. Are they the Ajira 6 now? Or 3, or more?


    When we saw Sayid killing that guy for Ben on the golf course - where was that? Anywhere near Guam? Is he being extradited for that? (or if not, for another of the muders he did for Ben). Failing that, maybe it's a very public rendition? :)


  • #143
    Blazer
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    OPk..watched the first 5 mins..jack + co on island.
    watched 40 mins of bull
    watch last 5 mins,..jack + co on island..

    seriously I'm really surprised I didn't put my boot through my tv..all i had to do was watch 5 mins of the show and miss absofcuklutely nothing.


  • #144
    Talisman
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    The pendulum is believeable - DHARMA were basically dowsing for the island's location using a trapped pocket of energy to steer the pendulum because it would resonate with the trapped pocket of energy on the island.

    However, the point for me where the show has lost it's credibility was when Granny Faraday said that the island is always moving. Why do you think you weren't rescued?

    Juliet traveled to the island by submarine from Oregon (North West coast of the U.S.). How was it able to reach the island? If the island was jumping around then the submarine would have to be able to travel a hell of alot faster than 45 knots (52 MPH) that the fastest submarine in the world was capable of to have any hope of rendezvouing with the island. How was Widmore able to find the island and organise a bucket of bolts to get there? The freighter certainly wasn't built for speed.

    From the conversations between Ben and John Locke back in season 2 we were led to believe that the icland was cloaked from the outside world - Ben said something about even God not being able to see the island. It was only after the hatch imploded at the very end of the season that Penny's Portugese buddies were able to locate the island.

    The show is descending into complete BS.


  • #145
    Wreck
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    Talisman wrote: »
    The pendulum is believeable - DHARMA were basically dowsing for the island's location using a trapped pocket of energy to steer the pendulum because it would resonate with the trapped pocket of energy on the island.

    However, the point for me where the show has lost it's credibility was when Granny Faraday said that the island is always moving. Why do you think you weren't rescued?

    Juliet traveled to the island by submarine from Oregon (North West coast of the U.S.). How was it able to reach the island? If the island was jumping around then the submarine would have to be able to travel a hell of alot faster than 45 knots (52 MPH) that the fastest submarine in the world was capable of to have any hope of rendezvouing with the island. How was Widmore able to find the island and organise a bucket of bolts to get there? The freighter certainly wasn't built for speed.

    Speed doesn't really matter if you can work out where the island will be at a certain time, all you have to do is go there to meet it at that time.


  • #146
    MeTV
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    Was I the only one who, when Ms. Hawking was insisting that they're on flight 316, instantly thought of Richard Malkin insisting Claire be on flight 815?
    Ms. Hawking: Ajira Airways, Flight 316. If you have any hope of the Island bringing you back, it must be that plane. You all need to be on it. It must be that flight.
    Richard Malkin: It has to be this flight. It can't be any other. They're already scheduled to meet you when you arrive. Flight 815. Flight 815.

    Can't remember who it was or find the post now, but when I read through this earlier on, someone said that Hugo reading Y: The Last Man in Spanish echoed Walt reading Green Lantern and Flash: Faster Friends on flight 815. It was actually Hugo reading both comics; Walt found Faster Friends after the crash.


  • #147
    Mellor
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    Talisman wrote: »
    The pendulum is believeable - DHARMA were basically dowsing for the island's location using a trapped pocket of energy to steer the pendulum because it would resonate with the trapped pocket of energy on the island.

    However, the point for me where the show has lost it's credibility was when Granny Faraday said that the island is always moving. Why do you think you weren't rescued?

    Juliet traveled to the island by submarine from Oregon (North West coast of the U.S.). How was it able to reach the island? If the island was jumping around then the submarine would have to be able to travel a hell of alot faster than 45 knots (52 MPH) that the fastest submarine in the world was capable of to have any hope of rendezvouing with the island. How was Widmore able to find the island and organise a bucket of bolts to get there? The freighter certainly wasn't built for speed.

    From the conversations between Ben and John Locke back in season 2 we were led to believe that the icland was cloaked from the outside world - Ben said something about even God not being able to see the island. It was only after the hatch imploded at the very end of the season that Penny's Portugese buddies were able to locate the island.

    The show is descending into complete BS.
    She said moving in time, not physically moving


  • #148
    AnonoBoy
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    me-skywalker wrote: »
    But it could have been taken 1000 miles off course because the island had moved into its range and it got pulled in closer... or when the island moved the plane moved with it.

    The pilot knew it was 1,000 miles off course because he took it off course himself to land on Fiji. He didn't check his readings after the crash.

    So my point is that nobody knew in advance that this would happen so I don't think anybody else was on the flight trying to get back to the island.


  • #149
    Sad Professor
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    Talisman wrote: »
    Juliet traveled to the island by submarine from Oregon (North West coast of the U.S.). How was it able to reach the island? If the island was jumping around then the submarine would have to be able to travel a hell of alot faster than 45 knots (52 MPH) that the fastest submarine in the world was capable of to have any hope of rendezvouing with the island. How was Widmore able to find the island and organise a bucket of bolts to get there? The freighter certainly wasn't built for speed..
    The submarine was guided to the island via an underwater sonar beacon which was attached (assumedly) to The Looking Glass station. Patchy told us about this in season 3.

    The island (or the window to the island) isn't moving constantly. It might be in one place for days, weeks even, before suddenly shifting somewhere else. The wormhole theory works best here. Imagine the island is in a wormhole. It's just the mouth of the wormhole that is moving.

    It's also possible, as I suggested earlier, that the discharge at the end of season 2 caused the island to stop moving, in addition to lighting it up like a christmas tree for Widmore to find. When Ben turned the wheel the island started moving again but became (as Ben worried it might) greatly unstable, hence all the flashes.


  • #150
    Killaqueen!!!
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    One of the worst episodes of Lost yet IMO. And people will complain "stop whining about Lost" but I'm actually a hardcore fan and I AM enjoying this series to an extent BUT it really is getting worse and worse.

    I should take into account the assumption that they will explain why Sayid, Hurley etc. suddenly got on the plane. If they don't explain that, then that's point number 1

    1) The last 5 episodes we've been bored to death with Ben's same old drama about trying to get all 6 of them to come back or 'God help us all'. Now all of a sudden we have all 6 of them conveniently showing up? Ms. Hawking didn't seem too bothered either, when it was only Jack, Sun and Kate.

    2) Stupidest way to get back to the island ever. We've had so much build up to this and then bam! They stick them on a plane, let the mystical island do its magic and whoop. Flash of white light and they wake up on the island, not a scratch on em. Also thought it was ridiculous that a pair of shoes and a guitar case were enough to recreate the original flight. Surely, if that was as important as Ms Hawking stressed, they'd need a hell of a lot of the original passengers, flight crew, Oceanic plane etc.

    3) For a major turning point, the episode was very slow moving. Long pointless scene with Jacks grandad (whose looking very young btw good on him!), time span was very jumpy. Also unrealistic (i)Jack not reading the letter for dramatic purposes (thought for a min. they would leave him opening it til the season finale in which it would reveal something huge) (ii) not asking Kate what happened to Aaron; after all he was his stand in father for a while. Could be dead for all he knows. (iii) not even showing a goodbye scene with Sun and her baby - does she even care about the thing?! (iv) not giving a fcuk about the other passengers who, for all Jack+co know could crash on the island/die. Isn't Jack a doctor? Hmmm..

    4) Plot-holes with Ms.Hawking saying the island was always moving. Don't want to write a big essay here cos most of the confusion has been discussed above.

    Tbh, it felt like this was written by some Joe Schmo who won a prize 'write and direct a Lost episode for a day'. Had a very last minute feel to it. That said, I rarely lose confidence in the writers and I'm still very entertained by Lost, but as I've said in other threads, it's losing the essence of the original show - the characters, cinematography, acting performances, etc. I hope that they're going somewhere with this and not just being daft for the sake of Lost. Even with all the mysterious sh1t going on, I still had a sense it was going somewhere with season 3 + 4. Will have to wait and see I guess.

    That said, there were some positives:

    1) Some great one-liners. Ben "Who cares?"
    2) Return of Frank Lapiedes
    3) Actually enjoy the development of the time travel idea, and the moving island i.e the lamp post scenes
    4) I suppose most importantly - this episode, although poor in itself, will set up the rest of the series for us. Glad the O6 are back on island. Hopefully we'll get some character-driven flashbacks to fill us in on how they got to be there.

    5.5/10

    (the .5 is for the humour in the episode!)


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  • #151
    Requiem4adream
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    Mellor wrote: »
    She said moving in time, not physically moving

    Have to disagree with this. Watched the scene back over - "where it is going to be at a certain point in time". I.e. that it is physically moving but it's movements can be predicted. The whole scene makes it pretty clear the island is physically moving.


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