BNP members list leaked

Morlar wrote: »

Thats a bit of a cliche really and not based on the facts imo. During the last london mayor campaign the bnp literature had one of those american style adverts 'I am voting bnp because . . . '. One I remember seeing had an Irish woman on the front page saying 'I am Irish living in england and I am voting for the bnp because of . .. . ' They have a large demographic of (white christian) Irish people in living in england who are not fond of super-mosques and such they would be stupid not to reach out to them considering the numbers.

Well.... it's really like a degrees of hate/dislike thing.... The BNP/National front are just more anti-Muslim than anything. The National Front in particular in the past were quite Anti-Irish. If the Muslims weren't around you can be damn sure Blacks/Non Muslim Asians/ Irish and Eastern Europeans would move further back up the BNP/National front's hate scale.

Also when I lived in Manchester I saw a BNP leaflet that made me lol.

It said something like "We're not racist, we just want's best for the native people of the UK, in particular the English"

Well for me that statement really showed up how ignorant they were.

yes until last year i lived in a village close to burnley-the local counciler was BNP-nobody knew who he was, leaflets kept dropping through my door and everyone would not admit to voting for her -mind you the rest of the council was rubbish both the asian councilers was put in prison for rigging the vote -the labour and liberal would not not work together and the conservative party dident have a seat

Wow. Id be shocked if the DJ doesnt sue for a nice few quid. Surely discrimination on political beliefs is illegal, like discriminating on religious beliefs (as bitter sweet as that is...).

wes wrote: »

Also, Far Right groups have been doing this kind of thing for years, with the likes of red watch. So there hardly innocent, when it come to this sort of thing themselves.

Whoa whoa whoa. You can't blame members one group for actions of a group with similar ideals/beliefs. I'd say the vast majority of those on the list ARE innocent when it comews to this sort of thing. Fair enough about what you said regarding the human rights act.

Anyway I have sympathy. The BNP aren't what they used to be and some people disagree with multiculturalism, I don't but I can understand their point of view.

So it's not surprising at all that there are Irish on it. BNP is open to anyone who's white

It's wrong to publish a membership list like this.Doesn't matter what organization it is.Peoples names and addresses for everyone to see.This is a form of bullying.totally wrong.

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Whoa whoa whoa. You can't blame members one group for actions of a group with similar ideals/beliefs. I'd say the vast majority of those on the list ARE innocent when it comews to this sort of thing. Fair enough about what you said regarding the human rights act.

It wasn't my intent to blame them, just showing that right wing groups are guilty of this sort of thing themselves. I think its a valid point, as the BNP seem to blaming Labour or left wing groups on this. Also, the fact that the BNP has never spoken out against this, when its people they hate who are the victims.

I agree that a lot of these people are innocent (except of being facists) and are entitled to there privacy. Hopefully who ever done this, will be caught.

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Anyway I have sympathy. The BNP aren't what they used to be and some people disagree with multiculturalism, I don't but I can understand their point of view.

There facists plain and simple. They have just been more careful about talking about there more extreme beliefs. I have no sympathy for there views at all and they deserve none. Don't get me wrong, they are entitled to there views, but I will call there views exactly what they are, which is facist.

Morlar wrote: »

I disagree, a lot of Irish in england would be sympathetic to the bnp's approach to . . .. say for example muslim immigration/ghettoisation - more so considering the current climate.

In the 1970's the national front were pro uvf and anti catholic/Irish, likewise in the 1980's combat 18 were in the same boat. The bnp are the inheritor of the 'national front' legacy but are more streamlined & media savvy. They have moved with the times to the point where they do not (officially) dislike Irish in britain. I agree though that if the UK had its entire muslim population deported their sights would soon turn to any non uk born outsiders including the large numbers of Irish descent. Thats not exactly going to happen anytime soon though so for the time being they will seek to expand their support base within Irish communities.

so how exactly are you disagreeing with me

Also in regards to some Irish support for the BNP - I didn't say there wasn't any as I said earlier there's no fool quite like an Irish fool.

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

BNP is open to anyone who's white

A former Muslim colleague of mine used to either ring up one of the local officers(or whatevr term you'd give) the BNP or The National Front (one of those 2 anyway) to wind him up... he used say that he was a Hindu but he hated Muslims and could he sign up. He was told yeah no problem, that they were just Anti-Muslim.

ejmaztec wrote: »

I expect MI5 etc had a hand in it somewhere. I think the run of the mill UK politicians can see that the BNP is becoming more and popular with people who are too thick to understand the full meaning of fascism.

Yip, sounds about right. Smart move imo.

buckieburd wrote: »

No sympathy for them at all. They constantly try to incite racial hatred. There was a case at home in Glasgow where two Asian guys killed a white boy, and they came up and campained in the area even though the dead boys mothers publicly said she didn't want them to do it, that it would only cause more hassle and fighting. why not publish their details, if they are going to be racist (and that is what they are) then they should have to balls to do it publicly instead of hiding away.....

/ rant over!!!

Yeah fcuk em.

todolist wrote: »

It's wrong to publish a membership list like this.Doesn't matter what organization it is.Peoples names and addresses for everyone to see.This is a form of bullying.totally wrong.

Eh the world isn't full of fluffy clouds and cuddly teddy bears.

marcsignal wrote: »

thats what i mean, we should be careful what's said, some random irish bloke living in the uk could take the drunken flak for it outside a pub some night by some BNP supporter.

Indeed

Morlar wrote: »

Thats a bit of a cliche really and not based on the facts imo. During the last london mayor campaign the bnp literature had one of those american style adverts 'I am voting bnp because . . . '. One I remember seeing had an Irish woman on the front page saying 'I am Irish living in england and I am voting for the bnp because of . .. . ' They have a large demographic of (white christian) Irish people in living in england who are not fond of super-mosques and such they would be stupid not to reach out to them considering the numbers.

My personal experience of the BNP says different.

Morlar wrote: »

I disagree, a lot of Irish in england would be sympathetic to the bnp's approach to . . .. say for example muslim immigration/ghettoisation - more so considering the current climate.

... They have moved with the times to the point where they do not (officially) dislike Irish in britain. I agree though that if the UK had its entire muslim population deported their sights would soon turn to any non uk born outsiders including the large numbers of Irish descent. Thats not exactly going to happen anytime soon though so for the time being they will seek to expand their support base within Irish communities.

You can disagree as much as you like Morlar, I've personally been told to '**** off home Paddy' by a BNP giy handing out leaflets in Cambridge. As he thrust a leaflet towards me I smiled and said "No thanks, I'm Irish and don't support your party policies".

When I complained to a BNP official in the town he told me that "if you don't like the opinion of a British man then you shouldn't expect to stay in his country". I didn't take it any further. :rolleyes:

I certainly don't support the BNP and never will. Any Irish person that does is deluded. As you say though, they will seek to expand their base within the 'foreign white' communities and given the stupidity of some, will have further success.

Thankfully, there are no Cambridge city residents on that list, lots from smaller Cambridgeshire towns and villages but none from the City

There's two people with the title Sir. Still looking for the Scottish footballers

luckylucky wrote: »

A bit cliched imo, the problem is that every moron has got a point of view, the world would be a better place if some people didn't have one, then there would have been no Hitler, no Mussolini, no BNP, no George Dubya Bush etc

No boards.ie either, so that might help balance it out.

It's not right that their personal details were released, but I won't lose any sleep over it - tough titties for them.

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I understand that. If someone is wanting to support a political party then why the shame in others finding out?

+1. They should have published the names, addresses, phone numbers and children's names of all the members of opposition parties in Mugabe's Zimbabwe, Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia etc.

Sure what harm could it possibly do? :rolleyes:


People, even the most moronic and ignorant people, should have an expectation of privacy when joining a political party. The people who leaked this list could have at least taken out the people who have clearly withdrawn and the names of children. What benefit does publishing their kids names have?

Tbh whoever leaked this is as bad as the BNP themselves.