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BNP members list leaked

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Any Boardies on it?:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    What's the problem. Are these people only wanting to support the BNP in secrecy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Why the outrage?
    If they are happy to be a member they shouldn't be afraid to show it.

    Sure we've a few FF supporters on boards like ninetyniner and they are well able to defend themselves and give their points of view.

    I'd say the members in the army are fecked, could be grounds for dismissal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    Yah, with the IRA, there is a reason why you dont want your details revealed.
    but like, a legal national party, whats the reason for pretending your not a member.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Any Boardies on it?:pac:

    Just checked it. 2 or 3 Irish people on it.

    Good few in the army (reg & territorial)


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 294 ✭✭XJR


    Check out the BNP site - they are none too happy about it which instantly makes me feel good.

    There's a fair bit of coverage on indymedia and Lancaster Unity but you have to do a bit of digging to find the list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    micmclo wrote: »
    Why the outrage?
    If they are happy to be a member they shouldn't be afraid to show it.

    Sure we've a few FF supporters on boards like ninetyniner and they are well able to defend themselves and give their points of view.

    I'd say the members in the army are fecked, could be grounds for dismissal

    I know for sure that any cops in it will be sacked at once its a rule in all English police forces.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Would they be sacked too if they were members of Labour, Tories or Lib Democrats?
    Like is it a ban on membership of all parties?

    I know the Irish Defense forces have this in place, for Irish political parties obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    After one person, it says:
    Discretion required re. employment concerns
    Police officer

    Sucks for them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    Would they be sacked too if they were members of Labour, Tories or Lib Democrats

    only the bnp i think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Conor108 wrote: »
    After one person, it says:



    Sucks for them

    Serves em right. Anyone got a link? I did some digging earlier but no luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭JIZZLORD


    epic lulz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    I see a councillor/Mayor on the list. Epic lulz indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    cornbb wrote: »
    I see a councillor/Mayor on the list. Epic lulz indeed.

    I googled that councillor and they make no secret of the fact they are in the BNP.
    They clearly state in on the council website. They are an elected representative for the BNP, they hold quite a few council seats.

    I'm glad that police chief inspector is retired, that'd be a scandel alright due to the high rank!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    I might email a few of them and send them a Nelson Ha Ha pic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Gauge


    'member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active'

    oic.

    'Would like to help but limited due to ill health/family circumstances. Request for absolute confidentiality'

    Ironically this guy's details included what degrees he has studied, and what looks like all of his skills and jobs.

    'Membership suspended 20.9.05 (inappropriate tattoo). Suspension lifted 27.09.05'

    Wonder what it was?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    Funny that the BNP members are at risk of getting fired.

    I knew a guy once who was a member of a stalinist party. Seems to have kept his job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Gauge wrote: »
    'member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active'

    oic.

    'Would like to help but limited due to ill health/family circumstances. Request for absolute confidentiality'

    Ironically this guy's details included what degrees he has studied, and what looks like all of his skills and jobs.

    'Membership suspended 20.9.05 (inappropriate tattoo). Suspension lifted 27.09.05'

    Wonder what it was?


    I <3 Jews perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Gauge


    He was only suspended for a week though, must have changed it to ':( Jews' fairly fast!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    micmclo wrote: »
    Why the outrage?
    If they are happy to be a member they shouldn't be afraid to show it.

    ......

    I'd say the members in the army are fecked, could be grounds for dismissal

    The bnp are perfectly legal & you cant sack somone for their political beliefs.

    I would have a problem with that list being published. It could lead to intimidation and harassment. If you think it is ok to publish that then you should also agree with publishing the same level of detail in the equivalent list of people who support the more extreme parties on the left. I would not agree with publishing either list to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    The list isn't current nor accurate so any young revolutionaries looking to vandalise property might want to check who's inside first.

    There's a good reason people in the BNP don't want their details released to the public domain. That reason is they will be under physical threat from those opposed to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Morlar wrote: »
    The bnp are perfectly legal & you cant sack somone for their political beliefs.

    I would have a problem with that list being published. It could lead to intimidation and harassment. If you think it is ok to publish that then you should also agree with publishing the same level of detail in the equivalent list of people who support the more extreme parties on the left. I would not agree with publishing either list to be honest.

    I'd be in agreement, although their agendas are f*cking horsesh*t, my problem would be that these people have been put at risk. It's dangerous to have your address and personal details floating about the net so publicly never mind being linked to the BNP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Morlar wrote: »
    The bnp are perfectly legal & you cant sack somone for their political beliefs.

    I would have a problem with that list being published. It could lead to intimidation and harassment. If you think it is ok to publish that then you should also agree with publishing the same level of detail in the equivalent list of people who support the more extreme parties on the left. I would not agree with publishing either list to be honest.

    I guess you're right, as much as I despise their world view they are still entitled to their privacy. The bastard in me is laughing with glee at them though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    The bnp are perfectly legal & you cant sack somone for their political beliefs.

    I think there have been to attempts to sack people because of BNP membership. Definitely policemen ( although that makes sense to a certain extent)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Corega


    One guy has a PO box at The Colleges of Applied Science, Sultanate of Oman...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Conor108 wrote: »
    Is it ok to post it?

    The BNP are taking legal advice on the issue so whatever Boards' legal policy is with regards to non-irish events and how it affects their editing will show us if it's alright or not. Shouldn't be a problem though.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 294 ✭✭XJR


    cornbb wrote: »
    I guess you're right, as much as I despise their world view they are still entitled to their privacy. The bastard in me is laughing with glee at them though.

    My sentiments exactly, respect their right to privacy but loving their lack of it too - does that make me a bad person ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    LOL Found the list after Digging around.
    Didn't take long to find it.

    Guess there a lot of folk peed off right now and will be looking over their shoulder for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    One of them is a Galway postmaster by the looks of it and another from Dublin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Uh oh, there's two people on the list with the same name as me. Hope noone thinks that's me.

    And before anyone says it, it really isn't me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Morlar wrote: »
    The bnp are perfectly legal & you cant sack somone for their political beliefs.

    Irish Civil Servants can't be members of a political party. Not sure of police/army.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭dan719


    Posted by Nick Griffin
    The release of the list is a breach of the Human Rights Act.

    Posted by House of Parliment
    Article 14
    Prohibition of discrimination

    The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.

    Good old Nick and his selective memory. P.S I am not in favour of the release of the list, although I do not feel the BNP has any true political aims not rooted in old fashioned racism and discrimination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Irish Civil Servants can't be members of a political party. Not sure of police/army.

    I think the British army are barred from being members of political parties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Gauge


    'large barn available for use'
    'Has large van available'

    The plot thickens!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    One from a town near me... He his name as gaelige and all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Um. Why are Irish people in the BNP?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    In all honesty, the BNP knew this was going to leak eventually.
    According to the BBC news report, they knew someone had it for a while.
    Even with a court injunction, things like this get out eventually on to the net.

    BBC News Report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7736405.stm

    Look at the latest book the Scientologists have a ban against in England. It can't be bought there for now!
    There's not a hope it hell of getting it banned in the USA.
    (The Complex: An insider exposed the covert world of the church of Scientology - John Duignan - Irish person)
    I went a bought a copy of it yesterday in Waterstones.
    News: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/11/amazon_pulls_scientology_expose/
    Thats going to leak onto the net too. Why do they still try with injunctions in this day and age!
    Folk should consider that everything is a possible leak!

    In this day and age, if your on a list and the group/org' is not accepted in normal circles of decent society, you have to expect a leak more so sooner or later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Now to leave the email addresses where the Nigerian 419 scam artists can find them and watch (well imagine) the hilarity that ensues....

    On a serious note I don't see the problem unless your job doesnt allow membership of political parties. Even then can people be sacked using a document which has been leaked illegally (data protection and all that). If I was a member I wouldn't feel the need to hide my beliefs...Strange.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 294 ✭✭XJR


    Biggins wrote: »
    In this day and age, if your on a list and the group/org' is not accepted in normal circles of decent society, you have to expect a leak more so sooner or later.

    Oh Jesus I'm screwed so !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Now to leave the email addresses where the Nigerian 419 scam artists can find them and watch (well imagine) the hilarity that ensues....

    On a serious note I don't see the problem unless your job doesnt allow membership of political parties. Even then can people be sacked using a document which has been leaked illegally (data protection and all that). If I was a member I wouldn't feel the need to hide my beliefs...Strange.

    Known members of the BNP are constantly bombarded with death threats.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    XJR wrote: »
    Oh Jesus I'm screwed so !

    ...and the rest of us lol :D

    I'm withdrawing my membership quick from the Dustin for President Campaign list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Known members of the BNP are constantly bombarded with death threats.

    Seriously? Thats a bit pathetic....

    Death threats over political belief? Jeez people find something more interesting to want to take a life! Like if they shagged your ma (Sorry sorry I never say it and my backspace key is broke :D )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    It's on TPB so aint going anywhere any time soon.

    Apparently there's kids listed on it, it's a bit of an ethical minefield IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    Kold wrote: »
    Um. Why are Irish people in the BNP?

    good question ?

    there are irish people living in england too posters, try to keep that in mind......

    loose lips sink ships, and all that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    holy ****, I think I saw blisterman's real name on that list!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    marcsignal wrote: »
    good question ?

    there are irish people living in england too posters, try to keep that in mind......

    Yes but I thought that the BNP aren't too fond of the Irish. The whole IRA thing and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    Kold wrote: »
    Yes but I thought that the BNP aren't too fond of the Irish. The whole IRA thing and all.

    thats what i mean, we should be careful what's said, some random irish bloke living in the uk could take the drunken flak for it outside a pub some night by some BNP supporter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 Twinksno1flan


    All the Abbotts are having a **** time, first one lives in a caravan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Mosley Common Road

    Coincidence or not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

    Have to say this list really shouldn't have been published. These people are entitled to their moronic views and their privacy. To those people who said if you're willing to joing a political party, you should be ok with having your details exposed, would you apply the same criteria to everybody else?

    Some of these people probably just got swept up in the hype. Bear in mind how malleable people become when immigration is high and economic issues start to go south. Now they'll be subject to hate campaigns and all sorts. Taste of their own medicine I hear you say. Well that's all well and good but these people probably have families.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    */Checks list for dsmythy details...... */

    dsmythy wrote: »
    The list isn't current nor accurate so any young revolutionaries looking to vandalise property might want to check who's inside first.

    There's a good reason people in the BNP don't want their details released to the public domain. That reason is they will be under physical threat from those opposed to them.


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