Is Dim Mak Real

RedRaven wrote: »

All training for this skill are natural Dim Fuks!!:rolleyes:

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To OP,

Dim Mak, the cantonese pronouncation of Tien shien (spotting) is a skill trained in most Kung Fu Styles.
However the stuff about empty force is rubbish, a misunderstanding of hitting with intent, or what we would call in the west fainting.
Spotting is used to add pain and leverage / effect to a technique, and can be applied by elbows, knees fists etc... In Tai Chi Chuan, "Twin Mountain Peaks Through the Ears" often half translated as Box the Ears, is about using the index finger first knuckle of the hand to strike with when hooking. Aiming for the ear, allows for the dymanics of fighting, maximising the potential to hit a vital point.
Often in real Dim Mak, spots and techniques such as the Wudang sword technique "dot red between the eyes" are teaching the practitioner what to aim for to increace the success chances of a technique. between the eyes is not to hit a mysterious third eye, but should the opponent dodge you'll probably stab one eye, aim for the left and he dodges and you could miss altogether.
Pressure points should be easy to find, the internal styles emphasise the use of softness, and adherance, so you could slide / hookhand as you parry / wrestle along the limbs of an opponent, until you hit the joint protrusion, where you'll find a nerve plexus. Often large muscles are rolled out of the way to expose nerves, of course the rolling is also part of locking actions. Really it is all about efficiency, less is more etc.
If someone shows you something hopelessy complex, its fake. Having said that Dim Mak is kung fu so it takes time and effort to get it, when you have trained to naturally twist and coil in concord as part of any movement the Dim Mak becomes a natural added effect to the likes of Chin Na (sieze - hold, i.e. locking etc.) With practice in Die Pu (striking and knocking down,(or knocking down and striking) you will naturally become better at timing, angle and range, so visual queues for pressure points can be effectively applied. Say for example, parrying a low round house kick, by twisting / spinning with it, stretcing it and lifting with one arm, to empty the force, and applying a striking lock with the other arms elbow, one palm width above the kneejoint. When done corectly, the larger muscle groups are twisted out of the way / thinned to expose a nerve plexus to being crushed by the elbow. So not only is a lock being appied to aid the throw (shaui jioa) , but Dim Mak is being used to enhance the effect of the lock. All in one movement. Efficient?
sorry if I'm not being clear enough, but writing about techniques, is like talking about colours. Really you need to be shown such.
to conclude I believe that Dim Mak serves as a way to enhance techniques, knowing vital points alone is useless. They can cause an incapasitating amount of pain to people, I think back in the 60's 70's, some westerners who traveled east to learn kung fu etc. were introduced to some of this, and mistakingly took this "magic" as the essence of Kung Fu, brought back a half-learned tricks version with little martial merrit. Also to seek to learn a short cut is lasy and engenders a lasy attitude, so students of such mystical styles often do not train with much effort, waiting to learn the masters 5 step exploding palm technique instead.
I think this is why most people hate any mention of Dim Mak.

Regards,

Niall

Clive wrote: »

If it worked, why wouldn't hundreds of people drop dead after getting a massage every year?

Because spiritual intent will always overrule physical actuality.

Or something.

when did dim mak become extinct

Niall Keane wrote: »

often half translated as Box the Ears

I think my Ma knew that one.


Dim Mak is yet another simple eastern idea brough to the the west and through a process of misunderstanding, and ego, people can now use its incredible power to remove people's money from their wallets.

If you believe in this invisible force stuff I feel sorry for you, and sorry for my kids who will have to grow up in a world with YOUR kids who will have been raised by a person who basically believes in wizards.

Here's Dillman exposed on TV. Have a listen to his B.S. explanations after the skeptic survives the whole terrible ordeal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM_qg5d1YGI

Possibly... But I think there is a money motivation here too.... $$$$$. Well, without trying to be too cynical - Those people deserved to get ripped off, if they are stupid enough to go along to his seminars.

pma-ire wrote: »

i'd love to get involved with this.

but i'm busy doing stuff that takes up too much of my time.

to the op, do a search on here or google for my user name and pressure points or dim mak or whatever to see this subject in a more researched and practical light.

Bwaah merlin the wizard. Too many harry potter films seen me thinks!

Judomad wrote: »

ohhhhhhh micko he told you.......you dont know who he is.....could be better than merlin and harry potter combined....maybe hes the master making people 20meters away from him do flips out of his way haha

:rolleyes:

great to see that this forum is keeping up to it's usual standards

:rolleyes: