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Is Dim Mak Real

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    ryoishin wrote: »
    April and judomad should get a room!

    im gameball for that..........hahahahaha joking....

    but seriously what does she look like hahaha :D:P;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭SorGan


    Judomad wrote: »
    im gameball for that..........hahahahaha joking....

    but seriously what does she look like hahaha :D:P;)

    **moved to singles forum***






    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    SorGan wrote: »
    **moved to singles forum***






    :pac:

    thanks dude, training 7 days aswell as a mon-fri 9-5 job doesnt help with the females ya no haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Gonna give to the end of the day for this to start going somewhere, then i'm gonna lock it.

    Too much love going on in here.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Dragan wrote: »
    Gonna give to the end of the day for this to start going somewhere, then i'm gonna lock it.

    Too much love going on in here.:)

    so i only have till the end of the day to get aprils number, talk about putting me on the spot man.....:P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Judomad wrote: »
    so i only have till the end of the day to get aprils number, talk about putting me on the spot man.....:P

    I thought you thrived under pressure?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Dragan wrote: »
    I thought you thrived under pressure?:)

    you know thats true buddy!!!!

    you get my pm bout my fight i sent yesterday?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭pma-ire


    mickoo wrote: »
    dim muck is stupid, wizardry etc..

    hmmm, your argument is very interesting.

    how you disected, digested and regurgatated the information is amazing!! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭pma-ire


    as a final reply on this subjet here are some threads from maireland about this subject.

    http://maireland.proboards50.com/index.cgi?board=pps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    i was banned for mentioning something in his above post, i will expect the same.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Judomad wrote: »
    i was banned for mentioning something in his above post, i will expect the same.

    As far as i am aware the Martial Arts Ireland board is an independant board that has no issue with boards.ie

    There is however a gym in town that operates under a similar name that does.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with the post you pointed out dude but will double check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Dragan wrote: »
    As far as i am aware the Martial Arts Ireland board is an independant board that has no issue with boards.ie

    There is however a gym in town that operates under a similar name that does.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with the post you pointed out dude but will double check.


    top sticky....i mentioned someone not even in the sticky and got banned, he clearly just directly "mentioned"(which was the reason i was banned, mentioning some certain org) the same name in the top sticky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Judomad wrote: »
    top sticky....i mentioned someone not even in the sticky and got banned, he clearly just directly "mentioned"(which was the reason i was banned, mentioning some certain org) the same name in the top sticky.

    Jesus Gary,

    I'll say this in plain english for ya, shut your trap till i get confirmation it's the same people will ya?:pac:

    I don't think it is, if i am wrong i will apologise.:)

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Dragan wrote: »
    Jesus Gary,

    I'll say this in plain english for ya, shut your trap till i get confirmation it's the same people will ya?:pac:

    I don't think it is, if i am wrong i will apologise.:)

    Cheers.

    right next cage of truth is me and you, even if you are 60kg heavier lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Judomad wrote: »
    thanks dude, training 7 days aswell as a mon-fri 9-5 job doesnt help with the females ya no haha


    Bet it helps your grip strenght! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭HammerHeadGym


    Judomad wrote: »
    ...even if you are 60kg heavier lol

    Dude, his lunch is 60 kg heavier than you LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Dude, his lunch is 60 kg heavier than you LOL

    hahahaha nice.....lets gang up on the big mean Dragan..haha, (im only saying that coz im too small to do it myself;) )

    we could do a tag team mma fight :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Judomad wrote: »
    right next cage of truth is me and you, even if you are 60kg heavier lol

    I think that would go the way of Akebono Vs Gracie mate.....besides, my mother would disown me when she saw me getting my ass beat by a small dude! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Dragan wrote: »
    I think that would go the way of Akebono Vs Gracie mate.....besides, my mother would disown me when she saw me getting my ass beat by a small dude! :D

    suppose so :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Mikel


    Roper wrote: »
    Um...

    Aside from having a greater understanding of... everything... you mean? For every time people got things right in terms of which plants to use when someone got a rash or a mosquito bite, or how to fix a broken leg, there was probably 100 times where they put leeches on things, sacrificed a goat to cure a fever or prayed to cure a brain tumor. Does that make them stupid? No, but it does make them more ignorant than us through no fault of their own.

    I can't remember the book but it may well be The End of Faith by Sam Harris, where the author says that if we could transport the most intelligent man from the 1600s to the present day, that he would be hopelessly ignorant. He would believe all sorts of things about the universe that would be totally ridiculous to you and I. Like or no, the bulk of what we know about the human body, medicine and the human body has been discovered in the last 300 years.

    As for "alternative therapies". I leave people off because they're entitled to believe whatever they want. What would irritate me is that if insurance companies began to raise premiums because they provided cover for all sorts of quackery. I'd like to see how much crystal therapy costs Vivas to cover, and how much of that is passed on to me. At the moment our local community resource centre is running an Angel Therapy programme which, like all of their courses is subsidised by the taxpayer so the punter gets it for say €5 per session rather than €10. This sort of stuff creeps up on us. 10 years ago nobody knew what angel therapy was but now we have book shops with angel sections. You can't make it up- Literally, more and more people every year believe in fairies.

    Now we can be all open minded and say "Oh yes but it's ancient and we must not opress people blah blah blah". But there may come a time where someone you know is sick and desperate, and be taken in by this sort of nonsense (believe me I know from bitter, painful experience that if you're the skeptic you will be the bad guy when this happens). There may even come a time where once again your government may have to ceed to the wishes of a religious group in major decisions affecting us all. So I'm done being nice to mumbo jumbo peddlers.

    Now I'm all for including differing types of medicinal treatments, and as I have said I seemed to get benefit from accupuncture before, but not as the arrive (as Mikel said) ready made and ready to treat with "thousands of years" of un-empirical, anecdotal, tribal quackery to back them up. If they go away and test and prove then welcome to the fold. If not, then chuck them out with human sacrifices.

    It's not new therapies that I'm afraid of, it's the people who won't throw the old ones out.
    Sorry if all that is a rant but it's a subject I have quite strong opinions on... obviously.
    Pretty much what I was going to say.
    The problem is that some people like to feel 'spiritual', and tend to be taken in by all sorts of mumbo jumbo.
    It will only get worse.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    i'm a bit late to this debate and havent read all the posts so please excuse me if i discuss ground already covered.;
    is dim mak real???
    according to what definition??
    my understanding ,a general one only,is that dim mak is the attacking of points on the human body.simple enough.
    i studied acupuncture for a couple of years (until a hand injury forced me to quit,and no acupuncture couldnt save me) so i know a little about acu points. the ones that interested me most as regards fighting are the ones were nerve ends are clustered,(physiology as regards to mythology),like when you were a kid and some ones messing with you and grip you by the neck or just above the knee and dig their fingers into the acupoints there,usually causing an acute reaction.
    i fight sanshou,chinese kickboxing,which includes stand up wrestling and during wrestling drills i'll dig my fingers into certain of these points to irritate,distract,cause pain etc.
    this is about as far as my application of dim mak goes.(i know all the rest of it about hitting certain points at certain times of the day to damage certain points but i've absolutley no idea if this works or not.)
    i train with a guy (in no way a bull****ter) who got into an altercation one time and as the guy attacked him he dug his finger in to the fleshy area under the guys shoulder (about the place where lu 1 is located) and the guy just dropped in a heap in front of him (maybe he got him at the just the right hour??)icon6.gif
    is dim mak real?as far as i'm concerned yes it is. can you do that five finger heart attack thing from kill bill,i doubt it very much.
    apologies for my late inclusion to the debate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭pma-ire


    wudangclan wrote: »
    i'm a bit late to this debate and havent read all the posts so please excuse me if i discuss ground already covered.;
    is dim mak real???
    according to what definition??
    my understanding ,a general one only,is that dim mak is the attacking of points on the human body.simple enough.
    i studied acupuncture for a couple of years (until a hand injury forced me to quit,and no acupuncture couldnt save me) so i know a little about acu points. the ones that interested me most as regards fighting are the ones were nerve ends are clustered,(physiology as regards to mythology),like when you were a kid and some ones messing with you and grip you by the neck or just above the knee and dig their fingers into the acupoints there,usually causing an acute reaction.
    i fight sanshou,chinese kickboxing,which includes stand up wrestling and during wrestling drills i'll dig my fingers into certain of these points to irritate,distract,cause pain etc.
    this is about as far as my application of dim mak goes.(i know all the rest of it about hitting certain points at certain times of the day to damage certain points but i've absolutley no idea if this works or not.)
    i train with a guy (in no way a bull****ter) who got into an altercation one time and as the guy attacked him he dug his finger in to the fleshy area under the guys shoulder (about the place where lu 1 is located) and the guy just dropped in a heap in front of him (maybe he got him at the just the right hour??)icon6.gif
    is dim mak real?as far as i'm concerned yes it is. can you do that five finger heart attack thing from kill bill,i doubt it very much.
    apologies for my late inclusion to the debate.

    you've hit the nail on the head here.

    the time of day thing is a mess to deal with and is not something i would want to rely on.

    PP's are used by people a lot more than they think and are not mystical in any way.

    your friend got that reaction due to the shock factor involved when a person has made taken that path in there head to attack you and you attack them in an area that they do not think will result in so much pain. this is like derailing a train and because their body/brain is not aware or used to this type of attack it goes into shock for a short time which opens up your chance to attack again or retreat fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭April Raine


    Judomad wrote: »
    whats that for april??
    It is another side of acupuncture etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    That's a good article.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭April Raine


    Yes it is interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭SorGan


    good article remind me to never go see a chiropractor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Baggio...


    Very interesting indeed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I have had both chiropractic and accupuncture (for differing reasons). Chiro certainly gives me shoulder pain relief, and fairly instantaneously. Its not a cure and progressively I'm shying away from it in favour of just a damned good strong massage.

    Accupuncture is a completely new thing for me. Never had it before, never wanted it. However, if you read the "my really small adventure" in my sig, you will see that I have travelled a good bit talking to eastern physicians about eastern medicine etc, so I have done my homework but still, accupucture was never in my personal game plan before going to a sports physio in The Elbow Room near stoney batter.

    I'm a mathematician by trade so I like empirical evidence. I dont buy into crystals, auras, energies etc etc. I DO believe there is a lot about the body we dont yet know or understand but when you DO understand them, come back to me. Until then, I'll pass.

    Now, I broke my femur, rather famously :(, snowboarding and have had a lot of trouble with the muscles in my legs and back and stomach. I went to this sports physio who said he uses accupuncture as part of his treatment. I wasnt mad about the idea but screw it, as long as I got deep muscle massage too, I'm happy.

    So, for the past 3 weeks I've been getting accupuncture and deep massage and stretching every day. This guy is astonishing. I have been to many a sports physio in my time and in general they are all very good, professional and well trained, at least the ones I choose are :)
    This guy is no exception, he lectured in three Spanish universities (he's spanish), is working on a masters thesis at the moment and is extremely knowledgeable about the muscle systems of the body. You know those people who from the first moment you work with them you just KNOW they are brilliant at what they do? He's one of those and very humble about it too, which is nice :)

    After 3 weeks my leg is a million times better, plus he has balanced the muscles in my back and stomach, relieved a recurring pain in my lower leg and generally improved the tone and strength of my muscles.
    That much is absolutely beyond doubt, I have more then enough passing medical knowledge plus years of experience as a sprinter to be able to know good muscle tone from bad. I had astonishing results within 24 hours.

    He has clearly explained the science behind the accupucture, so I can either accept it or reject it but I can't say he hasnt presented any supporting theory of WHY it works. He's stimulating nerves and muscles right in the region he's working in, this isnt a case of "oh you know if you put one in your little toe it fixes your tummy!". He's sticking them (lightly) into various points of the muslces he wants to affect. That makes a certain amount of engineering sense to me.

    What isnt clear is if I would have had the same results with just the deep massage and stretching. I am not making claims for accupucture as I only have inconclusive anecdotal evidence but what i can say is that the combination has worked impressively for me for my condition and it comes recommended and performed by someone who is clearly NOT a quack or a "spiritual healer". This guy is hands on and very much "invasive" in a sense!!


    DeV.


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