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Do Aliens really exist ????

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  • 09-08-2007 2:42pm
    #1
    Leonitos
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    Well thats the big quesion is there life outside our own galaxy, or planet for that matter and if so what would an Alien really look like ?


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    daveirl
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    qwertplaywert
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    I agree. There may be alien cover ups existant[i dont believe there are] but the OPS post included nothing to do with conspiracys.

    Sidenote:Personally, I believe its ridicious NOT to believe in Aliens.All the countless Galaxys, we cant be the only world fit to contain human life, not to mention the fact there would be other orgasisms able to survive in differnt envirorments.


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    Degsy
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    Ah but do the radish-headed bastards walk amongst us for some dark purpose and have the suits in the government been hushing it up?


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    qwertplaywert
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    Tbh I wouldnt believe any of that unless I saw evidence of it first hand, seems just like a desperate measure to confirm the existance of aliens


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    Dave!
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    I believe there's life on other planets.

    I don't believe that alien life has ever reached earth, or that there is any conspiracy at all. I don't believe anybody has ever been abducted either.


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    nellyshark
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    On a side note why do people always believe that aliens are of superior intelligence to humans, maybe we are the most advanced race of species. Just a thought like


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    5uspect
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    Well according to the Drake equation it is exceptionally likely that life exists on other planets, we have no idea if that life has any kind of intelligence tho.


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    qwertplaywert
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    For all we know we're not the most intelligent on earth, nevermind the universe.


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    faceman
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    5uspect wrote:
    Well according to the Drake equation it is exceptionally likely that life exists on other planets, we have no idea if that life has any kind of intelligence tho.

    simliarily, the odds on winning the lotto are very slim too but someone has to win it...

    when scientists talk about looking for ET's, they look for planets/solar systems that have similiar conditions for life like our own. afterall, we have no evidence that life can exist outside of those conditions.

    Therefore the odds of finding life shrink even further. However the universe in its glory is bound to have secrets and stuff that we cant even begin to understand yet. I believe there is life out there in some form or another. As to its intelligence? Who knows.

    Whether aliens or not have been here or abduct people, again its hard to tell. Some self claimed abductees are whacko's imo, but some give a good story.

    I do find it easier to accept that if there was a secret US/UK gov cover up on UFOs, it would understandable if it was to protect us puny humans. As to whether there is one, i doubt it.


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    5uspect
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    Personally I can't see the point of such a conspiricy.


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    Ashla
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    Degsy wrote:
    Ah but do the radish-headed bastards walk amongst us for some dark purpose and have the suits in the government been hushing it up?

    Why do you talk so cruel?


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    A_Fitz
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    qwertplaywert wrote:
    I agree. There may be alien cover ups existant[i dont believe there are] but the OPS post included nothing to do with conspiracys.

    Sidenote:Personally, I believe its ridicious NOT to believe in Aliens.All the countless Galaxys, we cant be the only world fit to contain human life, not to mention the fact there would be other orgasisms able to survive in differnt envirorments.


    Exactly. Why do people consistently challenge the fact that we MUST be the only intelligent life in Cosmos?

    There is so much evidence backing up the existence of ETs, that's it's really a no-brainer to realise and accept that there are other life-forces out there.


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    banquo
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    Does it not bother UFO CT's that:

    a) the birth of Ufo sightings strongly corresponds with the invention of the aeroplane.
    b) most happen in america, the rest in similarly developed countries
    c) the happen in remote places, and usually near an air force base

    I'm just saying...


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    Steyr
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    banquo wrote:
    Does it not bother UFO CT's that:

    a) the birth of Ufo sightings strongly corresponds with the invention of the aeroplane.
    b) most happen in america, the rest in similarly developed countries
    c) the happen in remote places, and usually near an air force base

    I'm just saying...

    And what of the "saucer" like objects drawn in the Pyramids that talk of Gods descending in to put it loosely "vehicles"? I'm just saying..


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    A_Fitz
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    banquo wrote:
    Does it not bother UFO CT's that:

    a) the birth of Ufo sightings strongly corresponds with the invention of the aeroplane.
    b) most happen in america, the rest in similarly developed countries
    c) the happen in remote places, and usually near an air force base

    I'm just saying...


    No disrespect to you personally, but your theory is the type usually spouted by complete sceptics, and people who don't even want people to consider that there might be life outside of this planet. And while your points have some validity, in general it's a pretty ill-informed opinion.


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    Gordon
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    Steyr wrote:
    And what of the "saucer" like objects drawn in the Pyramids that talk of Gods descending in to put it loosely "vehicles"? I'm just saying..
    Which objects? Got any links to images?


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    bonkey
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    A_Fitz wrote:
    Why do people consistently challenge the fact that we MUST be the only intelligent life in Cosmos?

    Because its not a fact?
    There is so much evidence backing up the existence of ETs,
    Very little, if any, of which stands up to critical analysis.

    it's really a no-brainer to realise and accept that there are other life-forces out there.
    Its a no-brainer to accept that there might/should be other life-forces out there.

    Accepting that they are here as well as "out there", on the other hand....thats far from a no-brainer.


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    dlofnep
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    Do Aliens exist? Yes.. Wasn't there fossilised bacteria found on some martian meteorite? Technically, that counts as an alien.

    Is there "intelligent" life on other planets? You can be damn sure there is. X amount of planets that have sustainable living conditions must be in the millions, if not billions. Are we so naive to think we're the only life in this Galaxy, let alone Universe?

    I don't think many people really dispute the fact that life exists elsewhere.. Some would argue that aliens have never visited Earth. That's up for debate.. Personally, I think they have on numerous occasions. The documented evidence and backpeddling of Roswell, the videos and witness reports of the Phoenix lights.. The military attacks of impervious objects above LA..

    There hundreds of credible sightings and reports.. Like the former minister of defense for Canada, amongst many others.. We are an insignificant speck in this universe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfs1t-2rrOM


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    Jocksereire
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    dlofnep wrote:
    Do Aliens exist? Yes.. Wasn't there fossilised bacteria found on some martian meteorite?
    This is true and evidence that life existed on another planet


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    A_Fitz
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    It's funny.....it seems to me that there are more narrow-minded people here who want to run down the opinions of others, than there are open-minded people open to hearing broad-minded thinking.

    Strange, for a CT forum, IMO.


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    Kernel
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    A_Fitz wrote:
    It's funny.....it seems to me that there are more narrow-minded people here who want to run down the opinions of others, than there are open-minded people open to hearing broad-minded thinking.

    Strange, for a CT forum, IMO.

    Yes, it would discourage CTists from posting in fact. I think a lot of the problem is due to the forum being put in the same sub category as the skeptics forum (imagine if paranormal, for example, was here), and that sadly, mods see conspiracy theories as a joke, and a forum for 'crazy people' - as Cloud himself stated in his recent presentation. :(

    As for aliens existing, yes, I think on the balance of probability they *must* exist. The question of intelligent life, and civilisation, is more difficult to answer with certainty due to the lack of data. I believe there are other intelligent and even more advanced species in the universe. I am also satisfied with the Roswell evidence to suggest that something non-human crashed and was retrieved. Roswell is not inconclusive evidence by any means (the nature of coverups usually ensures that such remaining evidence will be inconclusive), but enough to satisfy me personally.


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    meglome
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    dlofnep wrote:
    Do Aliens exist? Yes.. Wasn't there fossilised bacteria found on some martian meteorite? Technically, that counts as an alien.

    After all the hullabaloo subsided didn't they announce that these were actually natural formations in the rock? Talk about egg on faces.

    As for alien life, on the basis of probability there is other life in the universe, how intelligent would be the big question for me. However I would be fairly confident if this intelligent alien life was to arrive on earth they wouldn’t be probing rednecks in the US.


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    Jocksereire
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    meglome wrote:
    After all the hullabaloo subsided didn't they announce that these were actually natural formations in the rock? Talk about egg on faces.

    .
    is this just not you giving your opinion? are we just to believe what you say? you have to back it up mate


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    meglome
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    Jocksereire wrote:
    is this just not you giving your opinion? are we just to believe what you say? you have to back it up mate

    Very good point indeed.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1666053.stm
    http://whyfiles.org/shorties/mars_rock_not.html


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    humanji
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    A_Fitz wrote:
    It's funny.....it seems to me that there are more narrow-minded people here who want to run down the opinions of others, than there are open-minded people open to hearing broad-minded thinking.

    Strange, for a CT forum, IMO.

    Isn't it funny how CT'ers always call others "narrow-minded", yet they're the ones who refuse to consider any alternatives...


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    meglome
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    humanji wrote:
    Isn't it funny how CT'ers always call others "narrow-minded", yet they're the ones who refuse to consider any alternatives...

    They fail to see the difference between people who'd like to believe if real evidence was available and people who want to believe no matter what. I've said it in here before there's loads of stuff from science fiction i'd dearly love were true but so far there's no evidence to suggest this, it makes for an interesting dream nonetheless.


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    humanji
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    Still hankering after those female cyborg sex slaves, eh? ;);)


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    meglome
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    humanji wrote:
    Still hankering after those female cyborg sex slaves, eh? ;);)

    Is that a problem :D


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    Saruman
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    nellyshark wrote:
    On a side note why do people always believe that aliens are of superior intelligence to humans, maybe we are the most advanced race of species. Just a thought like

    That would be because the furthest we have got is the moon and we have not been there in decades. Aliens that have come to earth would have to be more intelligent than us. You cant travel faster than the speed of light. If they got here they understand a level of physics far beyond anything we know.

    I myself do NOT believe in alien abductions (which is just normal sleep paralysis with a funky dream). I do not believe we have been visited by aliens. I do believe there is other life in the universe though.

    The only conspiracy where aliens are concerned is the fact that UFO's and Aliens are convenient ways to sidetrack the general public as to what's really going on in the world. i.e. someone spots a secret military experiment, they can blame it on being a UFO and no one will take it seriously.


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    Jocksereire
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    meglome wrote:
    Very good point indeed.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1666053.stm
    http://whyfiles.org/shorties/mars_rock_not.html
    Thats more like it. It gets tiresome in here at times with people giving their opinion as fact. Seems like the mars findings are being disputed alright. I still believe there is other life out there somewhere though. Jaysus how mad would it be to make contact eh with some :)


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