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US: 2X22 - "Three Minutes" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭loon


    one thing i did find odd about walt.. not his size.. but the fact that he looked at mrs klu'u, as if he was asking her if it was ok to say that, when he was talking to michael.. it might just be me, but it seemed a bit fake.. or it could just be walt's poor acting ability... maybe it's not walt.. or maybe the 'others' are good and it's walt who is the evil on the island? but if i was being held captive and i got to see my dad.. i'd try and tell him as much as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    loon wrote:
    one thing i did find odd about walt.. not his size.. but the fact that he looked at mrs klu'u, as if he was asking her if it was ok to say that, when he was talking to michael.. it might just be me, but it seemed a bit fake.. or it could just be walt's poor acting ability... maybe it's not walt.. or maybe the 'others' are good and it's walt who is the evil on the island? but if i was being held captive and i got to see my dad.. i'd try and tell him as much as possible.


    cleverly when the writers are actually telling us something we think they might be purfosefully misleading us i.e walts little outburst might of been planned,
    i'm wondering if all the others are in disguise or just the head few infiltrating a genuine group of island people
    ah its all a mess....when is next week happening people?, i need answers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


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    I thought it seemed on the level.

    First Walt told Mike about the "tests", then he said they were "predending" at which point she threatened to put him in the "room". He pretty much told Mike everything that was important that he knew, well except for the whole Vincent bit :). Which I think just shows that Walt is still Walt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭mr_angry


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    loon wrote:
    ... as for the jack, kate, sawyer and hurley... i think you're all missing the big picture... because it was jack, kate, james ford and hurley, not sawyer.

    I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. Why is "James Ford" a more attractive candidate for The Others than "Sawyer"? You could say that he had already adopted the Sawyer moniker when he shot Frank Whatshisname, but it was pretty clear that the Australian police had a list of crimes attributed to James Ford... I think its conceivable to think that if The Others had a hand in getting him on the plane, they knew about his cold-blooded murdering too. And its not as if he's been keeping out of trouble since he came to the island!

    Kate deliberately killed her stepfather. Sawyer deliberately killed Frank. Hurley accidentally killed 2 people (or at least contributed to an accident) and then blamed himself. Jack... well, we've never seen him kill anybody, but there is this ongoing thing about him and pregnancy...

    Who knows!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


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    well the only people that know about sawyers name are kate, hurley and locke. so i think it was dropped in to show that these people know about their life before the got on the plane, which means they are meant to be there. now how a group can manage to get 42 people onto an island in the middle of nowhere and but then need micheal to bring them, is beyond me?


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Narcissus


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    loon wrote:
    one thing i did find odd about walt.. not his size.. but the fact that he looked at mrs klu'u, as if he was asking her if it was ok to say that, when he was talking to michael.. it might just be me, but it seemed a bit fake.. or it could just be walt's poor acting ability... maybe it's not walt.. or maybe the 'others' are good and it's walt who is the evil on the island? but if i was being held captive and i got to see my dad.. i'd try and tell him as much as possible.

    I think he looked at her because he shouldn't have been saying what he said.
    mr_angry wrote:
    Kate deliberately killed her stepfather. Sawyer deliberately killed Frank. Hurley accidentally killed 2 people (or at least contributed to an accident) and then blamed himself. Jack... well, we've never seen him kill anybody, but there is this ongoing thing about him and pregnancy...

    Jack euthanised Edward Mars in the episode Tabula Rasa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    mr_angry wrote:
    I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. Why is "James Ford" a more attractive candidate for The Others than "Sawyer"? You could say that he had already adopted the Sawyer moniker when he shot Frank Whatshisname, but it was pretty clear that the Australian police had a list of crimes attributed to James Ford... I think its conceivable to think that if The Others had a hand in getting him on the plane, they knew about his cold-blooded murdering too. And its not as if he's been keeping out of trouble since he came to the island!

    Kate deliberately killed her stepfather. Sawyer deliberately killed Frank. Hurley accidentally killed 2 people (or at least contributed to an accident) and then blamed himself. Jack... well, we've never seen him kill anybody, but there is this ongoing thing about him and pregnancy...

    Who knows!

    agree, but didn't sawyer kill someone who turned out to be the wrong man, then repents, can't get way from the idea of henry, goodwin sleceting good from bad and eko s confession to henry....it must be murder related on some level, oh and jack has a patient die on his table, one he shouldn't of taken on(i'm still convinced dharma set that little escapade with the incredibly beautiful woman who kisses jack and consequnetly causes his marriage to end), maybe the theme is repentent killers, still makes little sense........ahhh, sigh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭loon


    does sawyer still have the flight manifest?

    .. and was he reading bad twin? .. coz i know someone was but i can't remember who..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


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    A transitional episode, setting the scene for the finale without telling us much.
    It'll be interesting to see why the Others want those 4. Probably Hurley cos of the numbers link, but it's hard to see what the rest have in common.
    That Alex chick had a nice arse, didn't she? Zeke, on the Other hand, is an absolute orsehole. I hope he and Michael die screaming.
    I reckon that's definitely Desmond on the boat. When we last saw him he must have been legging it off to repair it or maybe it was already fixed and just stashed somewhere - strange that no-one found it before.
    This season is ending in a similar way to the first one: a couple reunite (Sun & Jin in S1 and now Charlie and Claire) and someone who's been on the island longer than the Flight 815 survivors returns to "help" them (French chick in S1 and now Dessie).
    I wonder why the flashbacks had those "13 days ago" titles instead of the usual funny noise. Was it for the benefit of thick veiwers who couldn't tell the timeframes apart? Or something else?
    Speaking of thick, I don't know what the "Three Minutes" of the title refers to. Anyone know?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


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    Ms. Klu gave Michael and Walt 3 minutes to talk :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    agamemnon wrote:
    Speaking of thick, I don't know what the "Three Minutes" of the title refers to. Anyone know?


    well michael never got his got 3 minutes with walt,
    eko seems to be quite invovled with hatch countdown thing which is roughly 3 minutes? title didnt really make a lot of sense did it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭failsafe


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    LiouVille wrote:
    Jack was far too quick to believe micheal and then far to quick to believe sayid, that didn't make any sense to me. Who would buy the "no no, only us five", why specifically those five. He never explained the need for exactly five people

    It was just those 5, because they were coincidentally the only people that knew, michael said "keep the numbers low by not telling anyone else, only the 4 that know" I'm still surprised at Jack not picking up on Michael's crazyness, but it does act as a foil to emphasise Sayid's brilliance!
    stevejazzx wrote:
    i'm still convinced dharma set that little escapade with the incredibly beautiful woman who kisses jack and consequnetly causes his marriage to end
    his wife was leaving him regardless, i'm almost afraid to ask what relevance this has to the island!?

    Me myself i'm really looking forward to the 5 going off into a ambush that their aware of, lulling the others into a false sense of security, but with Sayid and Locke following for a surprise counter ambush!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


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    Anima wrote:
    Ms. Klu gave Michael and Walt 3 minutes to talk :)
    stevejazzx wrote:
    well michael never got his got 3 minutes with walt,
    eko seems to be quite invovled with hatch countdown thing which is roughly 3 minutes? title didnt really make a lot of sense did it?
    Thanks! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


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    Good episode, nice to see lost back on track. Although it is near end of season. Was it my imagination or just after michael agreed to do as the "Others" said i.e. get the 4, did he say "Alright but i want the boat". I couldn't really make it out and then i saw boat in the end so....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


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    That bit about the Irish drinking when someone dies was funny. Was that a bottle of Jameson? Looked like. I would feel strangely proud if my favourite spirit got some product placement on Lost.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,067 ✭✭✭✭Basq


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    agamemnon wrote:
    That bit about the Irish drinking when someone dies was funny. Was that a bottle of Jameson? Looked like. I would feel strangely proud if my favourite spirit got some product placement on Lost.
    Yeah.. that's what i thought.

    And my favourite spirit too... there's nothing like it straight with some ice at the end of a night out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    failsafe wrote:

    his wife was leaving him regardless, i'm almost afraid to ask what relevance this has to the island!?

    !

    common idea that the losties were selected for the island, and that their family ties in the real world were eliminated thus giving them nothing to go back to....so jack s marriage is usurped, i know its a bit of a long winded idea so.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭failsafe


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    Ah cool, i'm believing the brought to the island thing myself, trying to think if any of them chose to get on the flight (hurley seemed to be the only one) but if Jack had a wife he could have still gone to get his dad back, he would only be gone for a week for all he knew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


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    Good episode.

    I liked how we didn't get a useless flashback of someone before the crash,but it was a flashback on the island.

    I presume walt is referring to the others dressing up as jungle people,like when kate found the beard and glue.

    So all Michael had to do was bring the 4 of them to the others. I thought the others had told him to kill ana lucia,but no,he just decided to murder her. Could he not have thought of something else,anything else? I hope he is the next one to kick the bucket.

    And what's with the boat? Interesting.

    Also good to see more of Sayid,I think he is a great character who has been under used this season.

    Is it a 2 hours finale next week?? :eek: :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭mr_angry


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    failsafe wrote:
    Me myself i'm really looking forward to the 5 going off into a ambush that their aware of, lulling the others into a false sense of security, but with Sayid and Locke following for a surprise counter ambush!

    I dunno. I got a weird feeling when Locke headed off towards the end of the episode. Where was he going? He obviously didn't feel like going to the funeral, and it seems unlikely that he was going back to the hatch. Perhaps he goes to the Pearl station and starts writing down details on everyone!

    However, it would really be stunning if Fenry's mind-games had gotten to him, and he's headed off to join The Others. We saw several times in this episode where he disagreed with Jack on his confrontational approach to dealing with The Others. Maybe he's gonna try to have a rational conversation with them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


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    Its HENRY. :)

    Yeah it looked like Locke was walking off alright. My money is on him meeting Henry, or possibly Des. Bah, I dunno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭mr_angry


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    Fenry = Fake Henry. Its a little nickname given to him over at The Fuselage after he turned out not to be Henry Gayle after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


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    Ah, showed me. I suppose its fitting alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭failsafe


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    It was just wishfull thinking really, imagining locke and sayid hunting others, the kind of adrenaline packed episode like the one where they ambush Ethan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,806 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Does anyone think that it is significant that The Others asked for "James Ford" as opposed to "Sawyer" AND that Locke insists on calling him "James" too?

    Methinks that the bould Locke is in cahoots with T'Others...

    He was against Jack's & AL's "War" plans.
    Tried to turn the guys back during their search for Michael.
    Seemed quite happy to be taken by the black smoke - was p1ssed that Jack "saved" him from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭loon


    agamemnon wrote:
    That Alex chick had a nice arse, didn't she?

    was she that geeky chick in malcolm in the middle?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


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    loon wrote:
    was she that geeky chick in malcolm in the middle?

    yes

    I enjoyed this episode, can't wait for next week!
    I'm hoping Sayid gives them hell
    8/10


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Sunn


    stevejazzx wrote:
    they ask 'did he(walt) appear places he wasn't suppose to appear'?
    clearly related to the 'remote viewing' thing

    isn't it bilocation the ability to appear in two places at once at the same time and remote viewing the ability to only "view" things on the physical and astral plane


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭loon


    Bilocation is a word that any avid remote viewing researcher will come across and it is also an experience that all remote viewers have while implementing the TRV protocols. Technical Remote Viewing is still a fairly young technology, having only been introduced and put into use for twenty years, since 1983. We have had to develop new terms and definitions as this skill grows and becomes more popular to effectively explain how it works and why it works. Bilocation is one of those words that have been given new meaning by the science of Technical Remote Viewing and therefore it is often misinterpreted. I am continuing our series of TRV Public Education by explaining what bilocation means in TRV terms and what it does and how we deal with it.

    In TRV terms it is quite literally being in two places at once. After the TRV protocols are initiated, the viewer's attention splits. One half of the viewer's conscious and unconscious attention is at the target matrix site (or the target blueprint in the collective unconscious) and the other half is with the viewer's senses tending to TRV structure. Bilocating in TRV structure induces a heightened sense of awareness referred to as "a state of high attention." This is the optimal mind state to effect the remote viewing process.

    Some of the physical symptoms of bilocation are:

    A) Pausing as if in a daze
    B) Forgetting what to do next
    C) Waving the pen in the air
    D)Misspelling words
    E) A disregard for the surrounding activities
    F) Rhythmic rocking or tapping
    G) Decreased eye movement and blinking
    H) Forgetting common words and names
    I) A Dazed look in the eyes
    J) Decreased body movement.
    K) A wavering walk

    In the beginning of TRV training, one should not try to operate a vehicle until at least 15-20 minutes after ending a TRV session??????????????????????????

    http://www.trvnews.com/tsl/032103/index.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,806 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    loon wrote:
    Bilocation is a word that any avid remote viewing researcher will come across and it is also an experience that all remote viewers have while implementing the TRV protocols. Technical Remote Viewing is still a fairly young technology, ...blah, blah, blah


    Loon - Are you really Joni Dourif, PSI TECH President?

    If you are going to quote pretty much verbatim from an article (cf. http://www.trvnews.com/tsl/032103/index.html) you could at least give the author credit. :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭loon


    is it human??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    Lads, I can see next week, at least the 1st half of the show being tied up with who is on the boat....(probably desmond).
    2nd half will involve the hunt up to the others camp, sayid looking rambo-esque in his tracking, eto being serene and the damn statues appearing again on charlie (washed up on the beach)
    Just as the the gang find the others, jack will let it slip that he knows michael has been "comprimised"..a bit of a scuffle then they'll be surrounding by zeke and co...
    then it'll end amid much gnashing of teeth among us all.

    I hope to jaysus Im wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭failsafe


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    Hill Billy wrote:
    Does anyone think that it is significant that The Others asked for "James Ford" as opposed to "Sawyer" AND that Locke insists on calling him "James" too?

    Methinks that the bould Locke is in cahoots with T'Others...

    He was against Jack's & AL's "War" plans.
    Tried to turn the guys back during their search for Michael.
    Seemed quite happy to be taken by the black smoke - was p1ssed that Jack "saved" him from it.
    I'm not so sure. Thinks like Locke crying alone on top of the hatch and screaming "what do you want from me" shows that he's on a journey like himself, not knowing as much as the others do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    Sunn wrote:
    isn't it bilocation the ability to appear in two places at once at the same time and remote viewing the ability to only "view" things on the physical and astral plane


    yes thats right, it's remote viewing technique or vice versa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


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    I despise Michael, agaagh!! Good episode though, I was really beginning to get annoyed when Jack was all like "ok Michael, let's do what you say". What a muppet. They are putting their lives at risk for HIS son and he gets to call the shots?! So glad Sayid copped on. I really really hope they find out it was Michael that murdered AL and Libby. Can't wait for next week!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭loon


    jack should tell the rest that mike has been comprimised otherwise they wont have muc of an advantage


  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭Duras


    I think that was the worst Lost episode ever! Many flashbacks (read: replay of scenes from older episodes), we found out what everybody already presumed (read: Mike's story
    Yeah, he killed them to get his boy! Who would've figure out that??
    . What really happened in this episode?
    Nothing!
    .

    I hope Lost will get some big finale soon cos they risk morphing into a 2nd hand soap. Or that's just me complaining...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭DOLEMAN


    This episode has given me a horrible feeling...

    The Others are aliens.

    Please no...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


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    i think jack had an inkling especially after the last time he talked to michael, how long was it from michael returning, and libby and ana lucia getting killed, was it only a day? still a complete lack of info flow or interest on part of most of the 'socks'.

    well what happened in the finale of season one they opened the hatch to a darkness we didn't really learn anything in that episode did we?

    boy were the others clothes extremely color co-ordinated they should have a been dulux swatch?

    ms klu....

    so i bet desmond(dd we see his twin) is on the half-unconscious on the boat
    cos i seen the pics
    and he had stashed his boat but then couldn't leave the area cos his navigation was messed up by the electro magneticism the same thing that confused the plane.

    i defo think something like theyre not the bad guys is going to be the reveal next week


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    Great episode. Did all the right things to get viewers pumped for the finale without giving away too much. Lets say an 8 cos I have a funny feeling I may need to watch it again, thats been a rarity this season.


    Did anyone spot Ms Klugh from Eko's vision in Smokie?



    ekoVsMonsterWoman2.jpg


    Hmmmmmmmmm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    yeah seen that, really confused me . Was she seen in that faith healers wall of pics in Austrailia too? or is it just way to early in the morning for my head?
    stevejazzx wrote:
    at one stage it appears that echos hatch clock is at 3 min but theres no beep(second time 'round)

    the clock was at 35 mins, jack was in the way of the 5.
    stevejazzx wrote:
    well michael never got his got 3 minutes with walt,
    eko seems to be quite invovled with hatch countdown thing which is roughly 3 minutes? title didnt really make a lot of sense did it?

    the countdown is 1078 mins and the alarm starts at 4mins so nothin to do with 3 minutes in this hatch anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


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    lostexpectation, spolierise your post. Jesus...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    damiencq wrote:
    the clock was at 35 mins, jack was in the way of the 5.
    yeah was looking at it again and when jack enters his head is in the way of the digit 5 so we see the 3 and the zero zero

    damiencq wrote:
    the countdown is 1078 mins and the alarm starts at 4mins so nothin to do with 3 minutes in this hatch anyway.
    [/quote]

    yeah i was trying to link the 3 mins thing to something else as sometimes the titles allude to multiple parts of the story, but yeah i know, grasping..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭failsafe


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    There's still a few things that niggle me. The title for one, i've never know lost to have a title without strong signifigance or double meaning, i still think there's something to the "three minutes"

    Also when michael gets his blood drawn (to be cloned??) the other says "see you in the funny pages," is this a saying of some sort? I don't think the writers put this in for no reason..

    Any klu?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,067 ✭✭✭✭Basq


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    failsafe wrote:
    There's still a few things that niggle me. The title for one, i've never know lost to have a title without strong signifigance or double meaning, i still think there's something to the "three minutes"

    Also when michael gets his blood drawn (to be cloned??) the other says "see you in the funny pages," is this a saying of some sort? I don't think the writers put this in for no reason..

    Any klu?
    Michael was allowed three minutes with Walt in the tent (even though he didn't get the full 3 minutes)

    And "see you in the funny pages" is a quite common saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭Chong


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    DOLEMAN wrote:
    This episode has given me a horrible feeling...

    The Others are aliens.

    Please no...
    There is a possiblity ure right which is horrible. Ok so why aliens, if u go back to the ep and play the part where Walt runs to hug his father he seems to say they are aliens. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,067 ✭✭✭✭Basq


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    That's the muffled version of "aliens" ever..

    .. not a chance he says "aliens"! :rolleyes:

    He could be saying anything.. just muffled by the hug!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭Chong


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    I tell you something though bas, I hope they aint aliens cause if they are it would ruin it for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


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    basquill wrote:

    And "see you in the funny pages" is a quite common saying.

    the relevance of this line was a slip by the scientist, it shows michael he's not an indiginous islander


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Kazaanova


    stevejazzx wrote:
    the relevance of this line was a slip by the scientist, it shows michael he's not an indiginous islander

    Going by your thinking then he shouldn't even be speaking english. Its a common saying.


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