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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Will you give it a rest. I don't give free pass to anything. AI make lots of mistakes, all of them do. Bully it a certain way and it will no doubt come up with a reply that you can publish and will get clicks and will be repeated by sheep all over the world.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    V2L you say????

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,319 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    If thats the adaptor its the shutters design ever. Handing down on your bodywork...

    Where's the rest of the cable ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,494 ✭✭✭✭ELM327




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭September1


    It is nice that Tesla has finally started to catch with competition. I hope they look into fast charging batteries too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,589 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    what % of EV users do you think would it make a massive difference to have fast charging say twice as fast as it currently is?

    10%? less?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Tesla are usually among the fastest cars already to do a long distance trip (the only time where fast charging matters for the overwhelming majority of EV owners, most charging is done at home overnight)

    And already the human is the limiting factor, humans need more stops than EVs

    But the faster charging the better for sure, but it has almost zero importance for most people except EV owners who can not normally charge at home or work. Although for those people in Ireland, I would not recommend an EV because public fast charging is almost as expensive as petrol or diesel

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,319 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    What is fast charging in tesla terms currently ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,090 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,589 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    thats what i mean its a great headline thing to be able to say add 400km of range in 10 minutes, but whether its 10 or 25 doesnt really matter to most people who charge at home except for once or twice a year,

    now i get there is a cohort who it is absolutely important to but id wager they are small.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,319 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    That's plenty fast for anyone in this country tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,090 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Not sure I'd be able to get that much in Ireland though. It was in France with 2% in the battery and 29C temp. After a minute it started dropping back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    All the cheap Teslas with LiFePO4 battery don't get anywhere those speeds though. Not that it matters for most owners. Super fast charging isn't really relevant, except for those who rely heavily on public chargers for their day to day charging

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I can only get up to 174kW in my 2020 Model 3 SR+ , but it was 28 degrees and I plugged in at 8%

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    The LR & P versions go up to 250kW+



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭September1


    Tesla has very good peak rates, but very poor charging curve with charging speed quite quickly going down.

    It is not even about fast peak rate, but being able to top-up battery quickly at wide range of SoC.

    This is downside of almost all Tesla batteries, except short series of TMY RWD with structural battery. They charge very fast for quite a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    What other near 6 year old EV can charge at 174kW, even for a few minutes? 😂

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Going pretty mental again

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    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Not surprised, the whole market is roaring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭sk8board


    It’s a momentum stock. There’s been $580bn (38%) added to the value of Tesla in the last 30 days alone, based on nothing but vibes :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭sk8board


    I saw they had a countdown clock on the US site for orders before the subsidies end. It’ll be interesting to see if all the Q3deliveries are to real customers, or if they harvest the subsidy on fleet cars and sell them on to customers throughout Q4.

    Either way, Q4 deliveries will be way down, and also way down on Q4 last year.

    Just 11,000 S, X and Cybertruck were produced in Q3 (15,000 delivered), so without a doubt the CT is now dead. Did they even produce any in Q3? There’s a LOT of stock apparently.

    But then again, we have to remember that Tesla isn’t a car company, so none of the above matters to the SP 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭wassie


    In fairness that all about protecting battery health.

    Tesla battery management system is very aggressive compared to competitors for good reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭derekreilly


    ***press release***

    Tesla is introducing a series of upgrades to its most popular vehicles - Model 3 and Model Y. These enhancements deliver greater range for Model 3 and Model Y, and provide improved functionality for Model 3.

    These new upgrades include:

    Model 3

    New Front Facing Camera

    A new front camera is now available, located in the front fascia. It offers drivers an expanded view of the surroundings on the center screen and is equipped with a fluid washer and integrated heating to prevent fogging and stay clean in all weather conditions.

    New Indicator Stalk

    A new precision-engineered indicator stalk ensures effortless control while driving.

    Higher range on all variants

    Upgraded battery packs with higher-density cells deliver more energy. Combined with segment-leading efficiency, this results in even greater real-world range for owners.

    Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive now offers 520km WLTP with 19” wheels (554km est. with standard 18” wheels), up from 513km previously.

    Model 3 Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive now offers 750 km WLTP, up from 702 km previously (with standard 18” wheels).

    Model 3 Long Range All-Wheel Drive now offers 716 km est. With 18” wheels, up from 678 km est. previously.

    Model 3 Performance now offers 580 km WLTP, up from 528 km previously.

    Model Y

    Higher range on Long Range All-Wheel Drive

    Upgraded battery packs with higher-density cells deliver more energy. Combined with segment-leading efficiency, this results in even greater real-world range for owners.

    Model Y Long Range All-Wheel Drive now offers 629 km WLTP, up from 586 km previously.

    Customers can access these upgrades today via Tesla’s online Design Studio, with pricing remaining unchanged.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,954 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    New Indicator Stalk

    A new precision-engineered indicator stalk ensures effortless control while driving.

    What a genius idea. Why didn't any other manufacturers think of putting an indicator stick on their cars 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,494 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Tesla have been, for a decade, very fast in getting 0-50% SOC and tapering off quite quickly.

    Even my old SR RWD with the LFP could charge at 170kW and reach 50% in about 12-15 minutes at the right conditions. That's another 150-175km. Not many other cheap EVs that can do that, or better yet, could do so 3-5 years ago!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Kudos for trying I say, but they should have offered a retrofit option for those who want both indicator and gear shift stalks. They lost sales by deleting them in the M3H.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,954 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    100% lost sales. I wouldn't have considered one without it, indicators work and you shouldn't have to learn a new way just because Tesla wanted to save a few $$



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I have this great idea for a circular wheel…. But I need investors!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭sk8board


    what order dates get these upgrades for Irish cars?

    Is that a whole new battery?
    EV-database is showing a usable battery increase to 79kw from 75kw in the long range, and from 57 to 60kw in the RWD.

    I think these will be material improvements if the pricing remains competitive- albeit that front heated camera screams that every HW4 car up to now won’t fully support FSD were it ever to become a reality.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    You've been told before that Tesla upgrades the hardware of FSD cars for free once it is known that the older hardware isn't good enough. My own car got HW3 for free while still with its previous owner. And last year I got brand new heated cameras all around for free myself.

    Musk has already said that if HW3 cars are not good enough for unsupervised FSD, they will be upgraded to HW4 for free…

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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