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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭blobert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭JOL1


    I am assuming you are aware that there is a big financial difference in bringing a car form the UK comapred to Northern Irealand. Uk import will attract 23% VAT on registering where whereas no VAT from Northern Ireland as long as it was registered there for about 6 months….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭...Ghost...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭blobert


    Yes thanks, I know about that. Would be coming in from Northern Ireland, or UK to NI to here in whatever way avoids VAT/Duty/VRT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭JOL1


    The process where it comes from UK—> NI —> Republic is complicated so make sure you cover all bases. It would need to be through a Dealer and brought in in accordance with criteria of Windsor framework with very specific documentation (More than the V5C) etc

    Revenue only define it as a "reasonable period" and no where will it say 3 months. Prudence suggests go for 6 month to remove any ambiguity.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    NCT have a revenue letter in the VRT office stating 4 months. It’s on the wall at the public desk.

    3 months seem to be the norm though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    What's the craic with Grok? I've come across a couple of videos and wanted to check it out. My SW is up to date on the MYJ, but no Grok. Do we not have it in Ireland?

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Redfox25




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,405 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    The Grok that came out with a bit of holocaust denial recently? That Grok?

    Chances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Was that a question, or a mini rant? I don't see the relevance either way unless there is something hidden in "Chances". The poster was simply being helpful by answering a question I had asked. Is there something you want to add?

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,319 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It added alot of context actually to the fairly ignorance is bliss to many people using services that are clearly problematic on any normal measure.

    So was it relevant to a query on this service. Yes, yes it was. The person probably previously didn't know the platform has incredibly large scale issues which actually bring into question its usefulness versus harm in adopting it in your family home.

    Amazing how a small bit of knowledge can open ones critical considerations....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    My family don’t live in my car and I wasn’t asking about the morals of Grok, or any other AI or VA.

    I’m more than capable of making up my own mind as to the validity of information provided by any source, including from “reliable” and “trustworthy” outlets.

    I note that no alternatives were suggested, but I also didn’t ask for alternatives. I got the answer to the question I asked. That was used as an opportunity to throw in some ideological BS that wasn’t asked for and is tiresome to constantly see.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,319 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Feel free to tell yourself all of that.

    Your family drive in your car with you. Do your own research on Grok and its really extremely questionable behavior. This isn't a tesla issue so dont take it so personally. But as an LLM is into really nefarious shady stuff nothing to do with ideology so don't make this a political thing as that only displays serious ignorance on this topic.

    I wouldn't have that yolk anywhere near my kids.

    What's tiring is the excuses people make and the mental gymnastics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,494 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's currently en route to warsaw funded by mefo bills and promises of autarky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,315 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Any advice on cleaning vomit from rear heated seats? Will water or spray damage heating element?

    Lofe has gone full circle when its me collecting my father and his friend, both 80+ from a day boozing and his friend gets sick in the back of my car 😀😀😀😀.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,319 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You need one of those fabric cleaner hoovers. You can rent them including the chemical cleaner.

    Had this issue with ours and ours has perforated leather heated seats... kids !

    Came up a charm though. Also known as a spot cleaner



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,315 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    ok, might be as easy send to a pro for valet so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,405 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    In the context of the question as to whether Grok would be available in the EU, it was neither a question or a 'mini-rant'. It was a rhetorical question based on the fact that the EU Commission are currently talking to X about the AI's unfortunate lapse into holocaust denial. In view of that, the 'chances' of its approval in the EU might be considered slim.

    That these talks were reported within the last fortnight led me to believe that people would already know about them. Hence the rhetorical nature of the question.

    Does that address your questions about relevance and adding to the discussion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I don’t need to tell myself what I already know. Your opinion is just an opinion and I haven’t formed an opinion on Grok or any LLM, as I haven’t used any of them with the small exception of what shows up in google searches. Nor did I ask for peoples opinions on them, biased, or properly informed.

    I only asked about Grok, because I spend several hours per week in a Tesla and was curious to check it out for myself, for entertainment value. I wouldn’t be having my kids use any LLM, but I would be more concerned about the new primary education curriculum being rolled out on them, or their friends having unsupervised internet access on their phones from as young as 6.

    No mental gymnastics going on in my posts just in case you were suggesting otherwise. Just calling out another unwanted rant which is absolutely politically and ideologically motivated based on the other posters posts with regard to Tesla/Musk etc. it wasn’t an isolated opinion piece. That’s what’s tiring.

    I asked was it available in Ireland. I didn’t ask what it was like, or why it might not be approved by the EU dictate. So, your context was off the mark.

    A lot has gone on in the news in the last fortnight. Discussions by the morality police on an LLM weren’t on my radar.

    You have answered my follow-up question. Thanks.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Shock horror, a free LLM AI tool makes a mistake!

    I use AI dozens of times a day for work and personally. Anyone who doesn't understand these tools are far from perfect and takes anything they come up with as the truth, is simply an ignorant fool. BTW I do not currently use Grok as I find it inferior to ChatGPT.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Perplexity Pro is on a free 12 month trial. Any use to you?

    AI is in so many cars, including BYD through its gods eye system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,405 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    This is very funny. Why would you be so exercised by this? It was a factual statement partially tongue in cheek, but you're reacting like I insulted your first born. .

    Never mind that I didn't address my post to you.

    Musk fanbois gonna fanboi I suppose.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Are you ok?

    You seem to be on a relentless rant spree the last few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭maidhc


    surely there is a use case to deploy ai to have less crap voice control. I can only speak of Siri on CarPlay but it’s miserable to use.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Siri can be good but I must admit that I only use it for basic things. Call X, send a text message to X saying “X”. It’s great in the car which is where I would use it most.

    AI is a learning machine. It’s full of good nuggets and bad nuggets. The end user needs to be able to understand the difference between what’s right and wrong.

    I wouldn’t personally rely on AI but it gives a good steer on the topic that you’re asking about.

    Like it or not, it’s here to stay and it’s being implemented into everyday life with chatbots, DoneDeal, major brands of products etc

    Post edited by Gumbo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    misquote

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Specially for the people hard of understanding, I added in my post that I do NOT use Grok. I find it inferior. I use other products. This is the opposite of the definition of a fan. But I guess even putting it as simple as I can, this is too overwhelming for some 🙄

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Voice control is brutal, from any provider. I barely use any of it. Just in my home with some simple Alexa commands. And sometimes in my car to show off to people who have never been in a Tesla. When I tell the car "my balls are cold" it will turn up the heating and switch on the seat heater 😂

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭prosaic


    UNECE regulation for hands free driving on motorways has been approved. Some are saying that it opens the way for Tesla fsd to start rolling out in Europe. I guess not the full extent of fsd, just the highway part? System-Initiated Maneuvers (SIM) is the particular regulation (I'm not familiar with it).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,405 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Yes you did. And then proceeded to indulge in thinly veiled insults "Anyone who doesn't understand these tools are far from perfect and takes anything they come up with as the truth, is simply an ignorant fool". Or maybe not so thinly.

    Methinks you doth protest too much, as why else would you have jumped in on a perfectly factual post with a backup link and resorted to insulting me for posting it? What exactly did your intervention provide in the context of the EU Commission deciding that X had a case to answer? For the record, Holocaust denial is a bit more serious than "a mistake".

    Your post was essentially a denial of the seriousness of the issue an insult to anyone who took it seriously and a denial that you use the offending tool. If nothing else, you need to take a step back and maybe have a look at the murky world of holocaust denial that you're giving a free pass to.



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