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BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Where do they claim to be a 'licensed service?'

    Anyway, the question is moot because the service they are offering is free. If they were collecting fares, they would need an omnibus licence or permit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    100% legal hire and reward is the key word here. It's private use the exact same as someone's car. Bus preservation has been going on years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭BusGuy


    The final 50 minutes of the 46A. Still wondering why Dublin Bus haven't put an AX at least once on the 46A, not showing on Bus Times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭BusGuy


    The final ever 46A to depart Dun Laoghaire has departed. RIP 46A: 1926-2025



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Relax. You'll have a bus route thats named after a Female hormone running in the morning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭BusGuy


    Bruh, I've lost a direct bus to Nutgrove this time 1 year and 2 months ago. The E routes really don't affect me as long the AX's + EV's are allocated to the 11 when it goes via the NCR.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Wifimuffins


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    Some photos from the final bus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    Why all the fuss? What was so iconic about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    It goes by RTE and some well to do areas. Don't understand the fuss myself either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Personally, it's just a number of a route. But said number has been around in some form for just under 100 years, so there's some sentimentality behind it for people I guess. Plus, it was nice to see all the preserved buses out and about!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭Daith


    Watching Dublin Bus and other bus services being the workhorse during the storms really enforced the need for corridors and improvements.

    When the Luas and Dart can't operate or if there's an issue, it's the buses they point people too, and I think that needs to be used more when people protest against bus improvements because they just want rail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,778 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    First journey to the Park done... I must have said 'where the f*** is the next stop about 20 times' 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The fact that it was immortalised in a very well known song (for those of a certain age) probably has a lot to do with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,114 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Who said they claimed to be a licensed service?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    I was on one of those Dublin in the Rare Auld Times nostalgia groups on Facebook where everything built or created after 1960 is ugly and evil and everything beforehand was perfect (including being nostalgic about tenement living!) and when someone criticised the retiring of the 46A, they said they'd still call it 46A no matter what (followed by hundreds of likes from others). I kind of knowingly stirred it asked how would that would work when using the journey planner app to search for the 46A ? Of course my question was scorned with the few of them that actually knew what an app was lambasting how technology has ruined everything.

    If you want to get a sense of the type of people who object to and resist every advancement to public transport and Bus Connects change, take a visit to one of these groups (often having 100K+ members). Ironically I'm a member of a few of these groups too as I love old photos and history of Dublin as it was (but not with rose tinted glasses) but I also recognise and champion progress and necessary change too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    What I find odd is that the equally 'iconic' 10 route was retired about 15 years ago and there was barely a peep about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    All the opposition seems to be from cringe nostalgia groups harping on about a bus number, mostly south aiders who will have the new 24hr E spine sandwiched between the Dart and Luas, while the north side section of the 46a is about to be heavily downgraded but nobody cares, least of all the NTA, the most classist of quangos



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭Daith


    One thing about the 46a stuff is that is seems more nostalgia driven than anything. "Let's just keep the name".

    In comparison to the Save the 19 crowd who secured a much better bus service for themselves than originally planned

    Obviously some people did look for improvements for the 46a replacement, but certainly not the driving story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    People do get sentimental about things, especially when music is involved.

    I’d cut people some slack on it - that song by Bagatelle is pretty iconic for an awful lot of people.

    It’s a natural human reaction. As ever, people in general don’t like change, but they will get used to it. People will say things in the heat of the moment but will change over time.

    I wouldn’t get particularly hung up on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭trellheim


    What ? Not in the slightest where I am, NCR is down to < 50% of its served buses. The NTA could have kept the name when redoing the 11 because there is confusion either way no matter what you do. Could not give a stuff about its name.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    To be fair, the sentimentality about the route is really along the traditional 46a route (City Centre - Dún Laoghaire) which is what inspired the song - it has only been operating to the Phoenix Park since 2010 when the 10 was replaced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    That's because most of the 'just keep the name' brigade haven't set foot on a bus in decades. It's just sentiment, as said above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    A paywalled article has been published by Connor Feehan of the Irish Independent about the shortage of mechanics that is holding up BusConnects.

    I'm not sure if contains any new information about addressing this shortage in mechanics either now or in the future as we now have a new minister for transport appointed by the Taoiseach this week.

    I have linked the article to allow you to read it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭DUBLINBUSGUY


    On an E2 from Dún Laoghaire to Harristown atm, so far all the announcements are the same as the 46A that I've heard but there is an announcement for Stephen's Green East altho there is only an outbound stop on that road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭coylemj




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,778 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    As I thought... My very first 11B, hit Donnybrook Stadium bang on time but by the time I got around the monument I was late and ended up dropping the 13:55 back to the Park



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,792 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Yeah the Sunday turnarounds are way too tight at Donnybrook.

    Weekdays looks less tight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭thomasj


    If it's like that now I can only imagine what it will be like come Christmas , paddys day and when there's protests on in the city.

    Hopefully won't come to that and the O route will be introduced soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭hfjm20


    Anyone taken the E1 or E2 yet? Which vehicles are being used on the routes?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭jd


    I was on my way down the stairs from my apartment to take my maiden trip on the E1 from Northwood but I missed a step and did my ankle. So it'll have to wait. :(



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