BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Apparently they're meant to roll out the D - spine too this year, along with the F spine, but considering previous events I think it's safe to say that busconnects will go past 2026.

As for the O - route, let's hope it's not another N2 where the release date constantly gets pushed back. If all goes well it could be released this year hopefully, it's much needed, especially after E spine.

The O should be happening with the E ; that it is not, and the 11 is deputising , and the reason WHY, is not something we know or care to share here.

plenty of rumours like lack of turning clearance at the top of Steevens, or that the works require a railway order or something else weird , but nothing substantive . Could be just a lack of drivers, they've got the single deckers there ready to go.

11b timetable is not listed on the dublin bus notice, nor is it even mentioned with regards to the route changes.

The following existing routes operated by Dublin Bus will have routing and timetable changes:

Route 4 will operate from Monkstown to Heuston Station.

Route 11 will operate from Sandyford via Phibsborough and the North Circular Road to the Phoenix Park.

Route 13 will operate from Grange Castle to Mountjoy Square.

More information on Phase 6a

View Route 4 Revised Timetable
View Route 11 Revised Timetable
View Route 13 Revised Timetable
View Route 19 Timetable
View Route E1 Timetable
View Route E2 Timetable
View Route L12 Timetable
View Route L14 Timetable
View Route X1 Timetable
View Route X2 Timetable

its not even mentioned on the 11 timetable.

For a route that there are questions and concerns about , bad way of dealing with the route.

Dublin Bus is still making stupid mistakes on the wording of the launch:

"This phase introduces new 24 hour Spines E1 and E2".

As most of us know here, the individual routes are not spines, but routes within a spine. I have also heard some commentators referring to some S-Routes and the upcoming O-Route as "spines". They are not.

I've heard reports (might not be true) that the single deckers to be used on the O route have issues and have returned to the manufacturer to be dealt with. Like i said take it with a pinch of salt.

There hasn't been any of them in service for the past month.

I thought they'd done their running time testing on the O bar the Heuston bit and were waiting introduction

Is it only staffing that is holding back the O? And I presume the signalling issue at Heuston which nothing has been done about in 7 years since the project launche and has forced a reroute of 2 orbitals already.

Those missing GoAhead routes are now available in the dataset: https://bustimes.org/operators/go-ahead-ireland

are these the buses in question?

https://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/alexander-dennis-working-on-fix-for-recalled-enviros/

Current politician whatsapps say May for the O but pinch of salt as we all know. Based on one residents group I saw there.

The E2 PDF timetable, on the Dublin Bus E-Spine webpage, doesn't say Harristown as it's northside terminus.

It still has Ballymun Ikea & Dun Laoghaire written on it as it's full route.

I thought Harristown was going to be designated as the official northside terminus for the E2?

Another point about the EA's.

They have been used for some departures on the 37, 38 & 39/a routes from the city centre/UCD.

I did read an article from Extra.ie from December of last year about the electric buses not going out for service because of a lack of charging points being present in the Dublin Bus depots. I should have put it up here weeks ago but it's here now for you to read it.

The communication for this phase of Bus Connects is a shambles. Considering this rollout has had its launch date pushed back twice it is hard to understand how passengers are still being given poor and incorrect information.

• Incorrect timetable online for the E2 with wrong northside terminus.
• No timetable for the additional frequency on route 11B between Phoenix Park and the city centre. The 11B is being treated like a secret when in fact it might help a lot of passengers worried about their service on the northside.
• No detail on the timetable for the promised journeys on route 19 to and from Merrion Square.
• Incorrect notices on stops claiming the 4 and 11 will terminate in the city centre.
• No route information for the X1 and X2 north of Cherrywood. Where do people board in the city centre? What stops are served? What route does the bus take?
• Three formats of timetable presented to passengers. Why are new TFI BusConnects timetables different for each operator? Surely the point of this exercise was to have a consistent easy to follow format. 
• No route information on the new timetables. For example, compare the information on the old style timetable format for routes 4, 11 or 13 against that of the new E1 or E2. There’s no information of what areas are served by the new E spine routes apart from the start and end points. 
• Inconsistency on the display of the first/last bus position on timetable sheets. For example, on the E1 it is 04:50, on the E2 is it 05:20, on the 19 it is 05:20 etc. When exactly does a new day start for TFI services.

It is shockingly bad for a project which has a massive budget and is running behind schedule to still be putting out information of this poor standard.