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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Its no wonder multiple US newspapers are openly questioning Trumps mental fitness with incidents like this - zero filter. A real man for the working people too.

    Donald Trump went on a tirade at his Milwaukee rally, threatening to "knock people out" due to persistent microphone problems. The ex-president, who faced jeers during his Michigan event and made distasteful remarks about shooting Liz Cheney, mockingly performed a lewd act with the mic stand while again troubled by audio issues, marking the second incident in a single day... At his earlier Michigan gathering, an irate Trump demanded the sound engineer be sacked sans salary as segments of his followers struggled to hear him... In a dramatic moment, Trump exclaimed: "You gotta be kidding. You wanna see me knock the hell out of people backstage?"

    https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/trump-threatens-knock-people-out-34022387.amp

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The lad above pointed out if you watch the whole clip, it was CFTrump complaining about bending down low to deal with bad mics. I agree, he's not trying 'hawk tuah.'

    The whole sequence was absurd, Trump in his element complaining and whining about how bad they are to him, this time his own crew providing bad microphones. Basically 10 minutes of whining. It being a Trump crowd, they ate it up.

    But it distracts from the Puerto Ricans are garbage discussion from earlier in the week. Best thing is only 2 more days of this cr@p.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And that's the stuff he's willing to say in public. It utterly confirms the stuff he's been alleged to have say behind close doors, like wanting protestors shot in the legs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Trump has a crude and a grotesque sense of humour, that’s his thing and it works for him. Mimicking a disabled reporter and his crude comments about Rosei O’Donnell and Megan Kelly come to mind.
    Sayings his actions and words are being twisted is either done in bad faith or ignorance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,028 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    What's expected of him is so little, that him doing this results in a shrug of the shoulder.

    Frankly, I think it's ****ing outrageous carry on.

    He's not some second rate comedian. He's running for the presidency of the United States.

    Don't get numb to his sh1t.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,028 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump was on Fox complaining about an advert with Julia Roberts in which she assures woman that they can vote democrat if they wish and that they don't need to tell their husband.

    It must really worry them that women can't be bullied into voting for MAGA, that they can't control their independent thoughts.

    They are really just trying to shame women into choosing a party they don't want.

    FFS - it really is stuff from the dark ages.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭reclose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,015 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If everything Trump does is called outrageous, then nothing he does will be taken as outrageous. This is the crux of the 'flood the zone' strategy as promoted by Steve Bannon and it still works 9 years since Trump came on the scene.

    In among this chatter, he's actually said some serious and potentially destructive stuff if he gets back in, which should (imo) be what's discussed on every page of this thread, but we can't do that when people are having a back and forth about a possible simulated sex act.

    Stay on the signal, not the noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,025 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is this statement real? Trump will flip New York if it is..RIP Peanut.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,028 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I respectfully disagree.

    It's possible to report on all of it.

    It's possible to discuss all of it on boards too.

    He's a degenerate, and when he behaves like one, it needs to be pointed out.

    Notice that not on MAGA fan has tried to defend it. That says it is harmful.

    Therefore, broadcast it.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Just saw a couple of amateur poll analysts predicting a Trump win on Tuesday.

    I think they're wrong. But boy do they speak with conviction.

    One of them said it'll be 314 - 214 EC seats with him not calling the remaining seats.

    That would give Trump a greater EC victory than he had in 2016. After everything that has happened and running against a popular candidate? I don't see it.

    I think he's wrong, I really hope he's wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,028 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    How Trump's presidency started

    Screenshot_20241102-165037.png

    How it finished.

    America had better remember

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Screenshot_20241102-164847.png

    Closest it's been in 10 days. Just shows the a completed disconnect from the betting odds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I still believe it's disconnected from reality myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Early voting in 3 swing states suggests there's a major disconnect with polling as well.

    Close to 80 million out of a forecasted turnout of approx 170 million have already voted across the nation.

    Screenshot_20241102-170804~2.png

    https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1852210212880429503



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭fash


    Various courts & the Mexican government rid US of the "remain in Mexico" policy.

    Did Trump aligned Republicans block the cross party border control legislation with the intention of artificially creating a talking point?

    As regards the "cost of living crisis", the US has never been wealthier & the economy has literally never been better.

    The US faced lower inflation than the rest of the developed world plus in addition far larger economic growth & Trump's proposed policies are intended to create super charged inflation:

    https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/let-us-pause-to-appreciate-the-remarkable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    That data is literally taken out of the most recent marist poll in each of those states.

    It is not the actual figures for voting, it is polling data.

    poll.PNG

    michigan

    harris (63-36) +27 early

    trump (59-38)+21 yet to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,265 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Maslow's hierarchy of needs doesn't work anymore. “

    The theory still works if the conditions allow- it’s the conditions that are no longer conducive to self actualisation.

    Trump is selling a “dream” to people who have no hope of even getting 1/2 way up Mazlows hierarchy ; the American dream of the 60s is well and truely dead- many young people won’t exceed the wealth of their parents as used to occur and even then the wealth of their parents isn’t what it once was;

    Since that’s the reality people will drift towards a dream if it allows them to forget for a while - the Democrats and Harris are a reminder of real world reality- it’s not that they’re lying; it’s just people would prefer not to hear it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    There's absolutely a United front. No doubt. All boats are in the water.

    That she looks impressive at the moment is down to the campaign team. Personally, I think she's been badly advised. Trump's team didn't need any help but she at least should have had a better answer on the View when asked if she'd have done anything differently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Your right re: Pete. I really hope that doesn't come to pass, to attack like that. I'm an eternal optimist. If he brought in the money like what happened when Biden anointed Harris, it would have been OK.

    But would they have lined up alongside him.

    Probably not. And that hurts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,265 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yea that response hurt her greatly at the time - you could nearly hear the dust bowls pass by - looking at her speaking today she’s confident - a much different person to the early days of the election - but it was always recognised she’d have to work at that throughout the election as she wasn’t a natural inspirational speaker



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The VP taking over the nominee while still within an ongoing administration has been handled perfectly by both the Democrats and the Harris campaign.

    There has been no denouncing of Biden policies, not stories that suggested a rift between the 2. No suggestion that she disagreed with him or that he didn't have faith in her. He may have wanted to run, but passed the baton and stood back with extreme dignity.

    The conservative media tried to find a rift but got nothing. It was very well done by all involved on the Democrat side because all the time she was in a position where she was being asked how she would improve things and she never dropped Biden in it.

    I don't even know what response from the view you are talking about so that will give you some indication of how impactful it was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Woah.

    I never sought to counter any of your so called arguments against me. Read back as to what I was referring to. A classist comment made that roped in Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock as entertainment for the lower classes, while I countered that they are big names to go abroad and entertain the troops.

    And write your book. Your clearly wound up by Republicans. There's bad eggs on all sides. Giving handjobs in a theatre (which she didn't BTW. Check the video. She fumbled around) instigating war with Iran is far worse a crime that a lot of Dems are after. Both sides in fairness.

    Genuinely. Never let anyone stand in the way of your book or essay. Fwd me on a link when you do it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    You actually believe all of that which is some reach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Welcome to a discussion forum. Take some time to have a think about how it might work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Any way you look at it, she's coming across as far more competent than Trump.… She hasn't done 40 minute dance sessions at Town Halls or claimed immigrants are eating dogs. She also has an established political career and isn't be kissing the rings of dictators as Trump appears to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If the Dems had had a primary, airing their disagreements and dirty laundry in full media spotlight, it would have given fodder for attacks from FOX \ MAGA propaganda. It might have led to discontentment from losers within the party, maybe or perhaps less likely this time with the spectre of Trump looming.
    Regardless, that was all avoided and Harris comes in with the party united behind her and a full war chest.
    I don't think any of the other prospective candidates mentioned are so impressive compared to Harris as to second guess Harris stepping in the way she did.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    or calling successive elections as rigged, or tried to lean on election officials to find enough votes for them to win, or to formulate an idea to overcome the process so alternative electoral votes can be counted, or initiated 50+ court cases trying to calling in to question the election, or have had team members charged and convicted for some the acts they carried out on your behalf after you lost the election….

    There's a lot that Harris hasn't done that Trump has done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Yes. And you tried to cut my legs off but didn't actually read about the context in what I was talking about.

    Welcome to a discussion forum that extends beyond the page you initially landed on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    I'm not getting into this again. Read back to previous comments where this was addressed. This is just going around and around.



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