Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

”I’m not a Trump fan but…”

“Unfortunately I think Trump is gonna win this guys…”

In the world of “Centrists” and some Trump supporters, I get the sense of some people who would absolutely celebrate a Trump win, also want the freedom to meet a Trump loss and say “Phew! That was close guys. *Nudge *Nudge Good News, right?”

They simply cannot belong to the losing side and much like the scruples in general of a supporter of Donnie, they may also lack the courage of their own convictions. Next week may enlighten many.

From an outsider view both candidates are bad for Palestinians, plus Biden carried over Trump's Chyna bashing and his near and friend shoring policies are pushing the likes of Taiwan to create workarounds so they don't lose a massive chunk of the income.

Anyway the trend is firmly destructive insular politics and the US will be even more divided regardless of who wins.

The world is already moving on.

I think that your sense is off. Imo. Which is allowed.

And I'm not a fan of Trump. Doesn't mean I have to blindly accept Harris fan group think.

My initial observations still stand. Pete Buttegieg would have won this, been change and great. And that's not disparaging for ellipsis warriors. That's my genuine political opinion.

Oh that’s beautiful - he really nails it for what it is - and considering it’s the poor and underprivileged right now that are the target for influencing I’d say the one thing that would tip them towards Trump is a Tone deaf celebrity

Erm, just who has been in power for the last 4 years - and what party has been in the white house for 75% of the last 16 years

tell me you don’t know how the federal government works without telling me you don’t know how the federal government works.

Tell me how many years Democrats have been in clear control of the federal budget.

Rallies are very important to Trump as they are his sounding board on how his comments are going down- he says X, crowd don’t react much- he says Y, crowd go wild - “Y” it is - he’s been doing that for years now - his rallies are his sounding board for what he feels MAGA wants - he could well say something that doesn’t go down well but he’s not speaking to the nation when he’s doing that- he’s speaking to the crowd in front of him- they’re influencing what he then goes on to repeat and repeat at other rallies - it’s actually quite clever - Trump doesn’t care about how his comment “looked” or “sounded”- as long as it goes down well with MAGA he’s happy out.

As for Biden, I dunno - I think he probably despises the hate that MAGA instills in people - I don’t blame him - he likely had the extreme MAGA fanatic in mind when saying it - whilst not the cleverest of moves from a political campaigning help towards Harris, TBH I kinda respect it too 😀

there is some rich irony in using a celebrity to endorse your own argument about celebrity endorsements

Something about double standards…

you think the race is close because you like Pete? That doesn’t make sense.

Then you didn't read my post.

I think it's close is because she is the VP. An arguably very meh VP this time last year. I think that any other candidate resoundingly beats Trump.

Its interesting that people talk in the present tense, trouncING.

We have really no idea. The polls and the betting markets are at odds. The betting markets and the early voting stats (not really stats, but anecdotal estimates) are at odds too.

It was never going to be a Reagan '84. But really I think that women and minorities are going to swing the northern swing states for Harris. Possibly all 7.

But gun to my head; I'll say Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and Georgia for Harris; North Carolina and Arizona for Trump. 292 to 246 for Harris.

I miss Ricky when he was funny.

Every year now in his new Netflix deal he just talks about how he has been cancelled.

Women maybe but minorities too? I would have thought they’re split at this point on where their loyalties lie - 4 years ago absolutely minorities but I think the distance between Harris and Trump on that audience have closed considerably compared to the past and their vote is not at all certain - 10k votes could swing it either way given how polls are so close

A bit late. I know.

Dt had no experience in foreign affairs but your probably right. Pete wasn't going to be a celeb candidate. So he would have been scrutinised on that.

Man it would have been so sweet to see this last week in the run up if he was in the race. I think he'd have ran a good campaign.

They'd already accepted the concept of Harris becoming president if the president was unable to serve. So realistically she was the best option given the time frame involved and she's exceeded expectations entirely. If you'd told me in June that she'd be running, I would say she was a terrible choice. But honestly she's consistently surprised and impressed me. So I think given the disarrayed situation a vote at the convention would have caused, it was a sensible move.

I'm also not seeing huge discontent at her being chosen. If anything, the discontent is from Trump supporters at it being unfair on Trump.