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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

  • 10-09-2024 9:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,694 ✭✭✭


    First of all, starting the new thread because the two other threads are borked and not loading. Starting new threads has worked in the past. I'm sure once its all sorted the mods can just lock this one up.

    ONTO THE MAIN EVENT!!!!

    But by christ, do not do the above as a drinking game, you'll be dead.

    Mod warning posted 18/09/24

    As this is the third thread concerning this election I am setting out some of the basic requirements when posting

    Do not be calling Trump a rapist in this thread. Do not be calling posters rapist sympathisesr. Do not refer to either candidate in derogatory ways. Do not ridicule either candidate - that includes posting cartoons/gifs etc. Do not be cheering on atteopted violence and the attemps to assassinate Trump. Referring to what they say about each other is fine, but using that to trigger discussion about things like the rape is not.

    You can refer to some of the legal issues, but to the extent they relate to either candidate in a personal manner it can be discussed elsewhere such as the dedicated Trump thread. Indeed if you wish to discuss such matters concerning Harris a seoarate thread can be started

    And there are to be no link dumps. If you wish to post a link set out what it is about and your own views on it.

    Failure to observe these basic standards of posting in this thread can be expected to result in warnings and forum bans in line with the New Rules sticky

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,169 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    Wish it was a Friday night and non working day tomorrow - would love to post and get rat arsed - enjoy those who watch live - might try and wake up to post a bit bit unlikely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,694 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Won't be able to watch, sadly, as I'm working early tomorrow, so just bookmarking here so as to catch up tomorrow morning.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,694 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I have taken tomorrow more or less off. I have a bottle of wine. Whether I make it to the end or not is entirely another question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,165 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    As I said in one of the other threads....

    His likely answer when asked about his policies.

    "My policies, are, will be, they will be so big, you know you can't imagine how big, we will lead the way to saving this country, Joe Biden couldn't save this country, sleepy Joe, you know joe Biden eats children. He is not a good man, so bad. We will save this great nation,…blah blah blah horseshyte"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,169 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison




  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭top floor


    What time, Irish time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    2am



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,616 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭CrazyEric


    Trump will be so amped up on Adderall and uppers that he will loudly evacuate into his extra large Depends and Fox News will hail it as the second coming of the Messiah and proclaim it a work of art.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,873 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    No way I am staying up for it, interested but tomorrow is soon enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    Trump has the advantage in reach and punching power- he's been there before; but something tells me Harris is the more intelligent fighter, has better stamina with youth on her side, and she has knocked out some contendaas to get to this stage. If she can get him on the inside, pick off some body shots, he might start swinging wildly and might not go the distance, given that he has an all-or-nothing bare-knuckle brawling style. Harris on points, if not a knockout, I reckon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭blackcard


    There is a very low bar for Trump. He can lie, get his facts wrong, he can be insulting, he can be racist, misogynistic, he can ramble, talk nonsense, lose his temper, have senior moments, be offensive to US allies. It doesn't really matter as this is what people expect from him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,445 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    People aren't expecting much of either.

    Harris has never been good thinking on her feet, or being interviewed or debating.

    Rote learnt set pieces she can do.

    If neither makes a complete dogs dinner they should come out ok.

    If there were 2 candidates that can make that mess for themselves, it's these 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭derb12


    I’ve set it to record so I’ll get up early and watch it with lots of coffee around 5am before work! Off to bed now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    If Trump responds like he did with that supports for children question, that will look pretty embarrassing for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭briany


    All he has to say is that his policies involve fixing the southern border, stopping China and ending 'woke'. He doesn't have to explain policy in minute detail because he's never had to. It's never been expected of him. I don't think it's something moderates and independents are looking for at this stage. My hunch is that Harris's best path to winning the debate is just by being as likeable as she can. If she goes too far down the rabbit hole of how bad Trump is, and not how good she would be, then she's not going to significantly move the needle in her favour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump is winning the election at the moment according to the polls. Harris needs at least a 5 - 6 point nationwide lead for the Electoral College. She is currently at a national 2 point average lead across reputable polls after slipping and there are statistical ties in several key states like Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania. The honeymoon period is over.

    She has a job to do in this debate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Be careful stating facts, might offend some people.

    Gonna be a close one regardless of the debate, such a long way to go yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,623 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Pity Biden made a balls and agreed to muted microphones.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    It doesn't really matter because to at least 70% of his voters racist, misogynistic and anti-"woke" whatever tf that is in 2024 is all he needs to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Will make damn all difference imo; unless someone makes a HUGE **** up, I doubt many voters will change their minds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,694 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I've said time and time again that it's all on Kamala tonight.

    A woman of colour Vs a rich white guy is always going to have to play the perfect game and Trump just has to play the character of Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,427 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I agree, both are poor debaters and both are poor public speakers.

    She has a job to do in this debate.

    She has and if she doesnt win the debate she is likely goosed.

    The string pullers are gambling alot on tonight on a good showing by Harris, so that she can be hidden away for the next 2 months avoiding interviews and further debates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,918 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    hidden away for the next 2 months avoiding interviews

    I can't believe this is the plan: it would surely do more harm than it would prevent…



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    It's not the plan, it's the belief of one poster on an Irish discussion site. It would be bizarre in the extreme, whether the debate goes well or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    I don't think she will be goosed if she performs poorly during the debate, she has over 90% the media on her side regardless. The wholes identity politics nonsense, etc..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,918 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well it seems superficially plausible to more than one of the Trump boosters on here because Harris's media appearances have been so carefully rationed to date. But continuing with this approach right up to the election would surely cause a big chunk of the undecided cohort to conclude she suffers from the same sort of issues that led Biden to be hooked…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I'm wondering is this where the neutral amateur dementia experts will return? They were fascinated by Trump vs Biden and were very concerned about Biden.

    However since then they appear to have missed a lot of worrying Trump behaviour. Surely they will be watching ready to diagnose tonight?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,528 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Choose your favourite narcissist. American politics must form part of of this brain rot idea we're hearing so much about.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,985 ✭✭✭✭banie01




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    What can Trump attack Harris on tonight?

    I don't think he has anything

    All Harris has to do is call Trump a convicted felon, rapist and a liar, if that doesn't work, she can talk about his appalling positions on reproductive rights, and the fact that everyone he ever hired to work with him is either in jail, or has come out campaigning against him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,393 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I was wondering what was wrong with the other thread when I kept getting blank pages lol. Looking forward to this.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    CBS were just talking to 5 Pennsylvania voters. They were 2 each for Trump and Harris and one undecided which I think pretty much represents a lot of the battleground states and a lot of the country right now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    MSNBC focus group now. One women is considering writing her own name on the ballot when she votes. An example of a typical nonsensical voter in America.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    He'll attack her on immigration and the economy. Will bombard her with made up figures and hope she flounders trying to counter the dishonesty with facts. Sadly, it works for him more often than not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Just testing .....to move page on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I think Biden has been the best president of my lifetime which tbf is low praise considering some of the horrors we have had, but its an unpopular term whether you or I like it. That's the attack line I would advise him .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,393 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Here we go.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    My nerves…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Here we go 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,707 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I still can't understand how they never met.



  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Mormegil


    Harris and Trump were elected 4 years ago? Host makes the first mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Cue 90 minutes of ignoring the question and rattling off their well rehearsed campaign messages



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,477 ✭✭✭jmcc


    At least this thread is alive. (Watching on Sky News and the talking heads are still on.)

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Handshake



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,393 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Go on Kamala. Doing good so far.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Harris hasn't been to Mar a lago, court, or a trump rally, the only places Trump has been since the campaign started



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Ch 4 on the button



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