Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

I think if Maguire is happy being a bit part player that's fine. The problem is if he starts every game. Harry and his "team" should also be honest with him about the realisation that he isn't starting CB caliber for a top team that want to play the way we want* to play

*yes I'm well aware we don't play the way we actually want to play

I think Maguire is in an odd position, because even with big money spent on Yoro you can absolutely see Maguire starting ahead of him in many games. If we had, or do, sign De ligt I think he would be much clearer on his future because imo De Ligt is a direct replacement for Maguire. But we haven't. and I think Lindelof is much more likely to leave, as he is much more likely to have teams offering some fee for him and getting close on contract. With Maguire, I just don't see the market - based on the value we would place on him and his contract.

While Maguire may not be the guy we want starting for us, he also won't be that guy for City, Liverpool, Spurs, Villa, Newcastle - so his choice becomes go abroad, or play midtable football (he's used to it…). So maybe he is happy playing decent minutes here vs first choice at Wolves, for eg.

Is he better than AWB

Fits the profile at least 😅

It has a future move to Celtic or Rangers written all over it.

I don't mean to diss Maguire, but every game he starts is a game that could be used to develop a young centre half. He'd still look for 100k plus per week which to a lot of clubs is a luxury. He might not fancy it either. We'll see, sure.

Seen a video of Maguire coming in to the gym when all the u21's were on the bikes etc, and he went round to each one of them shaking hands and having a chat.

If I was a young lad starting off in there, i'd look up to that professionalism and leadership. Man went through some amount of abuse to the extreme by many a utd fan. Criticism he deserved for some of the performances but he's come through it mightly.

Theres definitely room for him in the squad, very good in set pieces in both boxes and as long as the game is in front of him and he doesn't have to get turned he's useful.

If he does get a new contract it'd have to be on reduced wages.

All saying that if a decent offer came in would be worth considering. If it was between Maguire or Lindelof to keep i'd pick Harry.

Didn't see anyone post this up... This appointment got confirmed.

https://x.com/ManUtd/status/1816925878783504672?s=19

Hopefully he can improve our set pieces, significantly.

True. But I'm seriously delighted with the appointment.

Goalkeeper coach and set piece coach were two appointments I said I'd love months ago, something I hoped wilcox et al would push for, so delighted to see we've got both. Maybe this go won't solely focus on it, but I would assume it will be him in charge of it.

A massive part of the goal scoring or chance creation difference between united and arsenal over the last two seasons is set pieces.

Just reading on him here, and aswell as being on the coaching staff at a few different clubs, he was also the head coach at Lillestrom. He's now back to being a 'regular' coach.

RVN was also on the coaching staff a few times, before being the main man at PSV. He's also now back to being a coach/assistant

Rene Hake was also spent the last 7 years being the main man as manager of a club before now being back to being a coach/assistant.

Steve McClaren also falls under the .same boat, but probably doesn't have any ambition of being the main man again.

With all the speculation around ETH being kept on in his job this summer, appointing lads who want to be the main isn't exactly a vote of confidence is it? Of course it be could viewed that they are getting a higher standard of coach in, but for 1 manager to take a step down, sure. But 3 separate managers taking a step down at the same time? It's the 3rd head coach hired this summer, to help their head coach!

I disagree I don't think any of them would be in the running to take over from eth if he was sacked, I could see why rvn would be as a type of Ole appointment but no one would of been clambering for him a couple months ago.

I think it's a sign of best on class appointments. Rvn has an excellent track record of coaching strikers and getting them scoring. I don't know enough about hake but I read he is excellent tactically. The new guy has an excellent record of set piece training.

The fact we were able to take them away from main coaching jobs is a sign that we have people in place that can sell the project and get people on board and that includes players as shown with yoro signing.

I'm happy so far with how this summer is shaping up it needs to be finished off now with couple if defenders and a midfielder.

Ah yes, good thinking including the bit about it being ok for one manager to take a step down. Otherwise people might have highlighted the fact that Liverpool have just appointed a lad (John Heitinga) who wants to be the main, to help their head coach. And that wouldn't have suited the narrative of your post, would it?

As I said in my post, one coach doing it is regular enough, but 3 at the same time is certainly unusual. Especially when the owners already have doubts over the main lad as it is. Didn't Wilcox appoint this new coach as he had worked with him previously?

You feel the need to bring Liverpool into it, but yeah the previous assistant manager (singular) at Liverpool also took a step down from head coach to assistant (and back up to head coach again) so it's pretty regular for that to happen. But more than that is not - Man Utd have more than one newly appointed assistant manager making the step down.

Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that. I only too well how that ends.