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Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,668 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Buses overtake one another all day long and this wouldn’t be any different.

    You also have to look at this in the context of the revised network of routes, not the existing one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭loco_scolo


    Given how this whole debacle evolved, it is a huge win for the community of North Strand to have the stops reinstated (still no sign of it actually happening, mind you).

    Certainly, my argument on this from the very start was that, you cannot deprive the most vulnerable in a community of a nearby bus stop. Realistically, the adjacent stops are fully reachable for every fit and able person, and if one doesn't want to walk the extra stretch, the real time planner will be ideal.

    Thankfully North Strand will maintain a bus service, it just won't be a 'turn up and go' service like it previously was. They should replicate this all across the city on quieter stops. On balance everyone receives a higher quality service which is faster and easier to keep on time. All that without depriving any community of access.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,690 ✭✭✭Shedite27




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    IMG-20240510-WA0009.jpeg

    Lol this guy was here 45 mins ago too, impressive



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    I'm saving this picture for the next time someone says "why do cycle lanes need bollards/curbs?". Not even big walls stop these assholes!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,938 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    "Why do cyclists not use Cycle-Lanes"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    it was obviously elderly/disabled/medical emergency



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A well aimed metal pedal scraped all along the side of that car wouldn't go amiss. Sorry mate, struggled to squeeze by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


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    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Jesus that's a bad one lol



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Seems like a lot of idiots out today!

    On the Griffith Avenue cycle lane a lad in a big SVU parked right in the cycle lane. The worst part is that there was plenty of space for him to park 1 meter to the right, like all the other parked cars!

    A little further up a lady stepped right into the bike lane without even looking, her car illegally parked in the bus stop in front of the church. I've seen this lady park in the bus stop a few times. A handy parking spot for her! Obviously feck you if you were a wheelchair user who needed to get on or off the bus!

    A reminder that the primary goal of this cycle lane was to create a safe cycle lane for children to cycle to school!



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If only there was parking enforcement or gardai in the area



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Saw on twitter earlier that there's been a 24% increase in the numbers using the inbound route, which is great considering that it's still in bits in places.

    Also saw this on twitter from a councillor, Irish Water seem to be responsible for the delays, with requests for new water mains connections that weren't in the plans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    "Some" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that update. It's already way behind so I doubt a few extra mains connections are responsible for the overall glacial pace of the project.

    When it gets back to the normal level of cyclists using it I expect to see a lot more people cycle in the bus lane. It's just too narrow to overtake in the bike lane and if you get stuck behind a plodder then the only option is out on to the road.

    Overall it's been a very poorly designed, managed, and implemented project. I'd like to think lessons will be learned from it but I doubt it.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,889 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Just have a look down one of the holes and see what’s involved. As Clontarf resident John Teeling, is always saying, ‘you have no idea what’s down there until you start digging’.

    Because there’s very little communication from the engineers, the design and management of this project does seem bad. They should finish off sections before starting new ones. There might be a reason for this but they’re just not telling us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,668 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    From my own chats with one of the foremen, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

    An awful lot of the utilities were not located where the plans said they would be (similar to the LUAS works on Harcourt Street back in the day). That will always cause serious problems.

    That being said, once the utility works are completed, the rest tends to follow reasonably quickly - the works between Talbot Street and the Five Lamps for example have progressed rapidly in the last few weeks.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Yes I just noticed a few days ago a big new hole with pipes in it opened up in the middle of what was a completed, but not open, section of the outbound cycle lane! So they seem to be going back and forward over already done sections!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    It's a mess down those holes and none of the utilities have the foggiest where their services are actually laid.

    For day 1 it's been a fairly haphazard approach they've taken. They've decided on maximum disruption for an extended period of time. Random sections completed and then closed off. Huge sections closed off with little to no work going on in them for extend periods of time. It's been a complete mess.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,889 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Talking to one of the local residents association this morning. They were also at the meeting with the council/contractors yesterday.
    The contractors are having to deal with all the utility providers - gas, broadband, electric and water and whoever else has stuff in the ground there. Getting the providers to make themselves available as and when they are needed is proving very difficult.
    The new finish date has moved to September I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Not one bit surprised by that. I reckon they'll be still at it comes Christmas being honest.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    And the told businesses along Marino Mart last year, they'd have it all sorted for the Christmas trade. They just didn't say which CHristmas. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Another summer and Christmas for those businesses to suffer is a big blow to them.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Sir Galahad


    Someone tell Donna Cooney ☺️she said it'd be finished last year 🤡



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Pretty sure she knows, seeing as the September date is from her.....

    Not sure what you want her to do here really? She's told these dates by the contractor, so what's she's meant to do? Not tell people? Keep it a secret?



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2 Pups coffee shop is beyond busy. Javaholics equally so. As is Tesco.

    A failing jewellery shop blamed the cycle lane/works for the demise of his business.

    People will still go to the business there that they really want to go to. Gaffneys is doing a fine trade still, as is the Eurospar.

    The works are not the only reason for the downturn for some of the businesses along there, it's a change in what consumers are looking for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Javajolics put planning to expand into the building next to it.
    While the works aren’t finished, the parking situation has been improved.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2 bike shops in the area will surely be delighted with the works. 3 estate agents, hardly affects them. This local business being badly affected is completely overblown!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Leaving aside the jewellery shop because that was clearly on the way before the works started. There's no way that level of disruption is not having an affect on the businesses along there.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    10,500 people were living in Marino in 2016. That number is bound to have increased since then. That's plenty of locals for the many fast food restaurants and coffee shops along the road works.

    The pubs will always do well.

    The solicitors and estate agents don't need footfall, they'll do most of their business online.

    What businesses along that stretch will only be used by those who drive to the area, and need to park?

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/property/fairview-marino-dublin-by-numbers-17853700



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