Increase in Anti-EV Media Articles

I would be very confident that if you took the average insurance paid by a tesla model 3 or y owner and compared it to an equivalent ice with similar bhp it would be lower.

there certainly hasnt been any postings from a large number of tesla owners complaining about premiums in Ireland thay I've seen, but maybe you found the one person affected, I wouldn't be surprised.

It's a matter of corporate convenience. To the advantage of the company and disadvantage of the consumer. It's up to authorities to curb these anti consumer practices.

Insurance has been shown time and time again not to pass on savings to the consumer.

I think antiEV side are guilty of the habit taking anecdotal stories over stats, for confirmation bias.

Considering the thread title.

If that was true premiums quotes wouldn't vary so enormously with the same company and same car same driver.

The inconsistency blows any argument is based on costs or such out of the water. Insurance industry been caught out on its own statistics too many times to be credible.

did they get insurance or did they not? You only need one insurer last time I checked. As for the rest of your post lmao indeed.

Your posts are it never happened to me but I'll tell you all about how bad owning an ev is.

Did an EV bully you at school or something?

what did it say about the level and value of claims over the past five years, and the estimated value of claims over the next five?

Because that is what your current premium is covering.

It’s not surprising, but most people haven’t a clue how insurance works.

I dunno what algorithms, you've written but the one's I write don't vary by 1000% with the same parameters.

Imagine ordering a coffee and every time you ask for the same thing you get a insanely different price.

But yeah its because I don't understand how insurance works lol.

It starts around here and goes on for the next few pages about insurance,

Of course it will never happened to me, I can read everyone's posts here and apply them to my own needs.

Nice that you mentioned EV bully, have you got a club or something?

I would suggest instead of shadowing me, go help this guy,

It was one of my primary reasons not to go EV, obviously he listen to the usually guff and now has to figure out what to do.

Some really helpful suggestions, like drive 50 km out of the way to a charger, or slow down,

Yes and if you read it its a mix of people struggling to get an initial quote (and then ultimately getting sorted) and people saying they couldnt insure a fiesta any cheaper. Whats your point again?

As for shadowing you thats the kettle calling the pot black, i see you thanking any post that disagrees with me, your obsession is odd, i only engage with you when you post nonsense (more than id like then)

Finally the obvious answer to the poster that needs help is to charge on the way to the airport so the car is near full when he gets back, even you could have figured that out surely? You can go post that as a response be helpful for a change.

The insurance renewal on my ICE and EV came in recently and they are on par with each other. Like within 5-8% of each other. They are relatively similar in terms of performance. But very different in age and value.

They're missing all the fun though. Best part of owning an EV is the planning bit.

Range anxiety… do most people travel 300km plus a day? That's 78,000km per year based on a 5-day working week (x 52 weeks) - the national average is 19,893km (combined for petrol and diesel). Most new EVs can do 300km on a full charge easily. The reality is that range is not an issue for most people if they can charge at home.

The holiday comment is an outlier, I have seen tons of EVs in Dublin airport so a lot of BEV owners don't have a problem. Also, with a little planning, it's not an issue.

Battery degradation - the average annual battery degradation is 2.7%. Therefore, after 10 years you will have lost 27% on average. ICE cars also degrade due to carbon build-up and they will lose power and efficiency - nobody seems to want to talk about that! ICE cars also have around 90% more moving parts than a BEV. More parts = more maintenance, more replacement parts, and more things to fail. ICE cars also need regular servicing and many diesel engines develop problems with the DPF because they are being used for purposes that are not suitable for a diesel engine - such as frequent short spins.

Higher insurance - my insurance went from over €600 on a 2L diesel to €305 on my BEV. I have step back and protected NCB so I have better cover for around half the price. My tax went from nearly €700 to €120.

Terrible resale value - I agree, but a lot of that is down to the FUD, in my opinion.

Patchy charging infrastructure - I can charge my car at home… can an ICE owner fill up at home? I have used public charging 3 times in a year and many other BEV drivers are the same. I agree the infrastructure could be better, but it's not as big a deal as it's made out to be. Charging at home is a game-changer though.

Multiple apps / charging cables - Come on, you're scraping the barrel there.

Price of EVs - They used to be very expensive but they're getting more affordable. My MG long-range was cheaper than an entry-level VW golf.

They aren’t convinced with EV yet. I think a lot of the articles seen as being anti-EV are simply stating the above.

Therein lies the problem. The articles are not accurate and in many cases, they cherry-pick what suits their agenda, or what will generate the most clicks… or they're just lazy copy-and-paste jobs with no real research.