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NEW 2022 Assistant Principal Competition - Open and Interdepartmental

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  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭countyireland12345


    Great idea and wish I had thought of doing that..... I wonder does it work though. On the other side, does the Department have a choice, can it refuse a candidate and wait for a better matched one?



  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Kirbi


    @countyireland12345

    It's how I was placed in the previous competition (although I had also worked with my prospective manager before).

    It only works if both parties - candidate and employer - state that it's their preference for the candidate to be placed there. The preferences have to be made known to PAS before the candidate comes to be placed, and PAS can tag them for that employer.

    Otherwise, the Department can't just refuse a candidate, and the candidate can't just refuse a placement. And if the timing isn't right for the tagging to work, i.e. there's not a vacancy there at the time, I think you'd be out of luck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 littleb


    Those who’ve been through the process, I’ve my interview early in the week after next can you remember how many days in advance you the strategic exercise i.e. was it seven or more in advance. Getting a bit jittery here. Any interview tips appreciated also if anyone has the time thanks 😊



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 chilli beanie


    hi in my experience it is 2 sometimes 3 questions per competency and then the panel will typically probe your answers. The question you mention is too basic and I doubt would be asked at AP level in that format. In my experience a typical question could be along the lines of

    Can you tell us about a time when you were leading on a strategic project or policy, what were the challenges and how did you go about getting buy in from your team.

    Or


    can you tell us about a time when you had to prioritize tasks taking into consideration available skills and resources, how did you prioritise, what were the challenges and how did you address them


    or

    Tell us about a time you felt you were right but the person making the decision did not agree with you how did you go about explaining your position and what was the outcome..,


    hopefully that gives you a steer.

    Also to those turning down (or considering turning down positions) it’s worth bearing in mind after 2 years in role you can apply for mobility and have a decent chance of moving into a preferred Dept and role where you get to actually see the role descriptions in advance and of course requesting an internal transfer is also an option to seek out .



  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Swilly22


    Hi there. I just checked and my SAE had to be submitted 3 working days before the interview date. It was 5 days in total if you factor in the weekend. I received the topics 7 days before the deadline. Best of luck. Lots of great tips in this thread. It's a lot of work. Have a look through Programme for Government for an idea of potential topics. Best of luck.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Onion87


    I'm waiting to be called for preclearance. I have no real preference for dept only that I really need a hybrid role, 3 days remote, 2 days in. Could I email PAS to request a hybrid role rather than a full time office role before you're called for clearance? Or is that not the done thing/pointless?



  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Kirbi


    @Onion87

    No sorry, you can't do that as far as I know.



  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Swilly22


    No harm however in my experience PAS won't know the specific business needs & blended working arrangements of the team you're assigned to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 littleb




  • Registered Users Posts: 28 markyp1988


    Anyone from batch 3.3 for Dublin open been called yet? Seems to be moving at a snails pace at the moment.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Onion87


    I emailed PAS this morning. They are now calling 3.3 for preclearance, I was 20 on OOM and now there are 4 ahead of me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Onion87


    Can anyone tell me at what stage do they tell you what dept they are offering you? Is it when you are called for preclearance or after preclearance?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Ritournelle


    Can anyone who has done the Stage 3 interview and presentation advise how long the interview will last. Thanks a million



  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Swilly22


    Hi there I think 45 mins approx. I'm pretty sure it was 10 mins presentation, 10 min Q&A and then the interview. A little over an hour for me in total. Best of luck



  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Tony29


    Hi Onion87 …. any news, have you been called for clearance?



  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Tony29


    Hi Markyp1988, have you had a recent update from PAS on the open panel? thanks Tony



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 busher07


    Hi Ritournelle, best of luck with your interview, do you know when this batch of interviews are finished.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 WerdnaBe


    How long, after your interviews did you get your result? 😁

    Any how can you tell which batch you are in?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Ritournelle


    I’ll double check the emakl but I think the last dates listed were towards the end of the month, they said last Friday they were interviewing for another couple of weeks



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Ritournelle


    The interviews are actually finished this week but not sure about the results



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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Onion87




  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Onion87


    I was called for preclearance yesterday and have been provisionally offered a role in the Dept of Justice. Really happy with that, Id say it will be interesting. Does anyone know what the hybrid working policy in that dept is?



  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Tony29


    great news, congratulations and best of luck in your new role ! Did PAS give you the name of someone in HR to link in with? you can ask HR regarding wfh, office location and section etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 236frenchie


    Hi Onion87 long timer in DoJ here. The hybrid working policy in Dept depends on where you are working. I'm in office 2 days a week and 3 days wfh. Talk to HR and find out what location you will be based in and the policy there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Onion87


    Yes, They are getting that info for me. When I get the contact of the HR person I'll contact them and find out. Thanks for the advice and well wishes 🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 JSF223


    Congratulations @Onion87 🙂 that's fantastic news! Best of luck!

    Anyone else been called for clearance yet or had a recent update from PAS?

    Wouldn't it be great if your position dynamically updated in a portal somewhere while you wait 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭jones


    Hi folks,

    I just passed the latest batch of interviews but i cant access the competition booklet. When is the panel expiry date? I think its November but i'm not 100% sure (edit - its 31st October 2024). Is it likely to reach me in 5 months? i'm 26 open and 21 interdepartmental.

    How long does it usually take to for preclearance etc? I'm a serving civil servant so not really sure if that changes preclearance etc or what the next steps are.

    ps this thread was a great help throughout the process.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,641 ✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users Posts: 4 speckybecky


    hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. I have ZERO clue of this whole process. I am very grateful to have passed the last round of interviews held for the AP 2022 comp. I have so many questions, I don't know where to start but Q1: I've heard of this thing called tagging in a panel - does anyone know what this is? In OOM, I am 27 Open, 22 Interdept, Q2: what is the difference between those two? I didn't ask any Qs on here before this as I just felt so nervous about whole thing. I found the interview tough but the panel were so lovely, it was actually a nice experience! 😀



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Ritournelle


    Hi all, I am in the same batch and 9 and 13 on the panels so hoping that I will be placed before the panel expires. Was there a typical timeframe for those who placed previously, it seems to a a couple of months looking back through the thread. Happy to share any info or help for any further batches re Stage 3 interview



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