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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,935 ✭✭✭boccy23


    The problem with trading for Fields is that he is entering into the 4th season. Nobody is going to trigger the 5th season if they traded for him. And if he is successful for a period, what contract could you sign him to? The value that the Bears got is about what could be expected.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,095 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Well if he is one and done in Pittsburgh you probably get a decent comp pick if he signs elsewhere. You also get exclusive negotiating rights to him in the interim, its a good low risk trade for the Steelers.

    If he plays well you can work out an extension, if not you can let him walk next year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    They don’t need to give Fields the fifth year option they can just see how this year goes and extent him if they want him back for 2025. Wilson will likely have moved on if that happens and Fields would have no reason not to re-sign

    The Steelers methodology of patience and stability appears to have been tossed out under the new front office. It’ll be interesting to see how this works out for them



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,311 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    A huge, major, even ginormous change to the rules next year - kick-offs are going to go from being boring to one of the most important phases of play as the XFL-type kick-off is going to be part of the game.

    New NFL kickoff procedure, rule changes for 2024 season – NBC New York



  • Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    I like the new kick-offs idea they were gone stale. Shame nothing being done about QBs fake sliding and making defenders give up on tackles.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Charlie Smyth fromer Down GAA under 20 goalkeeper signs with the Saints.

    This is the guy who sent an email to enquires@nfl.com a few years ago wondering how to get a job as a kicker in the NFL.

    He kicked a decent 63 yarder on a windy day in practice a few days ago at the IPP facility.

    Now there's a long way between now and the final roster cuts but it a good start for him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,144 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Chiefs sign Welsh rugby union & Lions player Louis Rees-Zammit

    Rees-Zammit signed a three-year contract with the Chiefs - typifying the faith shown in the Welshman by Andy Reid's team as IPP players aren't guaranteed any length of contract. He has also been given a guaranteed salary in addition to a signing bonus. He has targeted a hybrid role playing at both wide receiver and running back, and his next task will be to try to earn a regular-season roster spot.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/68686340

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Chiefs might need him as a WR with Rashee Rice on the run from the cops following a hit and run in Dallas overnight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Highly unlikely he will be making the active roster as a wide receiver.

    If he does make it it will likely be as a return specialist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    A busy few days for the Chiefs with Rees-Zammit signing, Rice's stupidity, and now JK Dobbins in the building for a visit. They also re-signed CEH for another year so that probably, and sadly, means the end for McKinnon who has been brilliant.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,626 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    No draft thread.

    Please Patriots do not join the Jags, Jets and 49ers drafting a QB at three. Those QBs were Bortles, Darnold and Lance. No other QB has been drafted at three in the last ten years.

    I think Penix is the best QB prospect in this draft.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Penix to the Falcons at #8 is the first big shock.

    Dont think anyone had them taking a QB.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37,626 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Blank is a clown, I've said that many times.

    Belichick saying he likes him a lot. He didn't like all the top rated QBs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Good draft so far if you need defensive players.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,861 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Happy with that Chiefs pick, surprised the Bills allowed the trade though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I'd say the LasVegas and Denver are fuming with Atlanta taking Penix.

    With them and Minnesota needing a QB, and Minnesota already expected to take McCarthy there would be only Nix left when it came around to Denver at 11 and LV at 12.

    So Denver had to take Nix even though he was said to be the lowest prospect of the top six QBs, and Las Vegas were left without any of the top six QBs.

    Chicago did well getting Oduze.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,993 ✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    GM should be fired immediately, criminal waste of a pick



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,032 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Oh, Falcons. Could have gone in for Lamar, instead are now paying similar money for Cousins and spending a top 10 pick on his replacement due to his age and injury.

    Really like Morris but the whole thing is a mess.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,112 ✭✭✭letowski


    Especially with Penix’s age, it’s not a green 21 year old that can benefit from sitting and learning the ropes of the NFL. Assuming Cousins plays out the contract, Penix will be in his late 20s when he’ll emerge as starter (all going well). He’s not a first round QB talent anyway imo.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Cousins four year contract is strongly front-loaded that it will be easier for the Falcons to move on from Cousins following year 2 but otherwise Atlanta's pick of Penix at number 8 looks to me as the most idiotic waste of a round one pick that I can remember since I have been properly following the draft over the past decade and pissing off your expensive newly signed veteran QB without giving him a heads up tops it all off



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,497 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    From a team that could have had Lamar and Bill Belichick, theyve now made themselves a laughing stock with that pick



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭amacca


    I agree its in all likelihood a bad decision but would I be totally in a minority of one here to say Id be apprehensive to have Bill Belichick as a head coach...

    I just think his way of doing things increasingly wont fly and I dont see him as a guy that will change much from the blueprint that gave him success previously....imo he needs to have absolute power and thats something takes a while to establish...I think another NFL job now = failure unless he takes over the worst team in the league where they are almost grateful to him for just showing up, is given complete control, budget and 3 seasons to develop them....his way....hard to get that....+ players better not have any delusions of granduer etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,497 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I wouldnt take BB as head coach if I was the owner of say the Chiefs, Bills etc. But for the falcons, with their god awful front office and god awful coaching, BB couldnt make it any worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭amacca


    In fairness I probably have to accept that point!



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,497 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Falcons fan? If so you'd be happy at least Pitts and Bijan would get enough touches!



  • Registered Users Posts: 37,626 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well you obviously wouldn't have taken Andy Reid either after a couple of bad drafts and a 4-12 season.

    As regards the Falcons, I believe it was Belichick and not Blank who pulled the plug on that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,497 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    If I were teams equivalent to the chiefs or bills record now, no I wouldnt. Why would I change when the team is either already proven, or almost there.

    To be clear, I really rate BB the coach, obviously, crazy that that needs to be said as a pats fan, but there you go. I just also believe you don't change a winning setup. The only reason bill is gone is because he had no winning setup anymore. For multiple seasons. So it was time for both the club and the manager/gm/coach to move on.

    In Andy Reid's case, he had a few close seasons, but really hit on it when he nailed the Smith and Mahomes setup. But even in philly, he was always there or thereabouts and the team went downhill after he left.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,032 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    BB has a fantastic resume but it is inextricably linked with Brady and it fell apart after Brady left.

    No idea how a team could entrust a rookie QB to BB after what he did to Jones.

    For a team rebuilding with a QB, last time he had cap space to spend he absolutely squandered it.

    For any other team, The Patriot/BB Way hasn't worked anywhere when Brady wasn't the QB and BB had plenty of opportunity to bring in fresh ideas into his set-up over the last few years but instead chose rethread after rethread of his former coaches who had been fired elsewhere, former players, and his kids.

    Cherry on top, is his age. How long will he be willing/able to coach. Turning down a shot at the young, collaborative guys for a guy who might throw in the towel at any point.

    Understand why his name and record would entice certain owners to sign up but in no way surprised that he struggled this year.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,626 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    His last season in Philly was a 4-12. His last two drafts outside of Jason Kelce in the sixth round were dreadful.

    If you checked my posts back then I still said he was the second best coach in the league. I'd have hired him but based on the previous post I quoted of yours you would not have hired him.



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