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Croatians attacked in Dublin, one man dead - read OP before posting

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    #242
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,146 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122035200#Comment_122035200

    "It wasn't my fault judge, the housing crisis made me do it"

    What a load of arse.

    It's a pathetic, irrelevant excuse for what is just outright thuggery, and everyone knows it.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #243
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122036815#Comment_122036815

    Teach thugs about armed and unarmed combat. What could possibly go wrong?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #244
    NewbridgeIR
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122037972#Comment_122037972

    There's a certain type of left wing person who stays silent when violent crime is committed by underprivileged people.

    But when people are kicked to death by posh lads, they're all over it.



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    #245
    Thelonious Monk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122039595#Comment_122039595

    Are there really? There was one case of posh buys beating someone to death 20 odd years ago.



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    #246
    Rugbyf565
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    nuke clondalkin at this stage tbh



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    #247
    NewbridgeIR
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122039887#Comment_122039887

    Just watch social media and you’ll see. I have a good few FB acquaintances that are outraged when a middle class person is up before the courts. However they’re silent on light sentencing for repeat offenders & will regularly make excuses for bad behaviour.

    Around the same time as the Blackrock boys case, a Swedish flower seller was kicked to death in Co Wexford. The accused were working class and got even lighter sentences than the Anabel’s four. Absolutely no outrage.



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    #248
    Ice Albatross
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    Firstly I'd say that the scumbags that did this deserve far worse than the Irish justice system can these days give them

    As to why they were killed, saying that it was because they weren't speaking English is surely not strictly true

    The guy who survived basically had amnesia so unfortunately can't fully rely on what he says

    Did the altercation start because they scumbags noticed they were not speaking English? Most likely

    Even for the worst scumbags though, if the two lads just left or said nothing back I'd find it hard to imagine they would have been followed

    Speculating here, but I'd say if there was a confrontation the two Croatian lads weren't having any of it (rightly so)

    I could imagine a sequence of events that the scumbags were shown up and had to back down, as they were afraid of the size of the fellas

    At least one of them a known summer/drug dealer so could have felt his reputation was at stake, rang up some of his scumbag heavy friends and followed the croations to jump them

    So while the altercation could have started with the scumbags giving abuse to the croations for speaking a foreign language, it may not be the reason they followed

    And while it might be a good idea for foreigners not to speak in a foreign language if they are in the vicinity of the absolute scum of the earth, of which there are a lot of in Dublin (the same way many people would make sure not to make eye contact, get involved with them) there's no need to think there's gangs roving the street looking for people not speaking English

    In that case they'd just target people who are obviously not of Irish heritage black/Asian etc



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    #249
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043563#Comment_122043563

    How is it that you know more than the person who was actually there?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #250
    Ice Albatross
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    Speculating obviously

    The one person we have testimony from said he couldn't remember a thing that happened



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    #251
    MegamanBoo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047187#Comment_122047187

    Not true, he's quite detailed in his statements about the earlier stages leading up to the assault and why they were targeted.



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    #252
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043563#Comment_122043563

    FFS. You are making excuses for scumbags committing murder. Get a grip.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #253
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Some very cheap throwaway comments about Clondalkin in this thread.

    I've lived in Clondalkin village for 21 years now, my wife has lived here all her life. It's a quiet, peaceful area with people from countries all over the world.

    Clondalkin village is actually very middle class and the house values reflect this. Definitely 100k dearer than where I grew up, in spite of being further out!

    It seems when anything bad happens, Clondalkin encompasses anywhere between the N4 and the N81. Neilstown has its own Garda station, Ronanstown has its own Garda station, that's where most of the nastiness and drug stuff happens, they're not Clondalkin except on RTE News.

    Clondalkin is very multi-cultural and has been for a long time, it remans to be seen where these scumbags are based and where the nazi they phoned up is based…

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #254
    anewme
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122039895#Comment_122039895

    What do you mean?

    Lots of decent people from Clondalkin.



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    #255
    anewme
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047813#Comment_122047813

    Where are the two Garda Stations in Neilstown? Only know of one.



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    #256
    beeker1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122000652#Comment_122000652

    What's really disturbing is that they're "kids" ! Many have had the benefit of Garda youth diversion programmes and still behave like savages ! They know their juvenile record is expunged once their adults and now have a clean slate to carry on offending , while their victims like the girl who lost an eye are forced to live with life changing injuries and a daily reminder that these savages will never think of her , and the real insult is the "sentences " these savages are given by disgusting judges !



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    #257
    Hotblack Desiato
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    ? I said one in Neilstown and one in Ronanstown. I drive past the latter 5 days a week ferrying my kids and one of their friends to school, this place is so f**ked up it has no English language co-educational secondary school, and has no multi-denominational primary school either.

    As a parent your choices are : an all-girls secondary school run by an RC religious order with a history of child abuse. An all-boys secondary school run by an RC religious order with a history of child abuse.

    So I am obliged to drive my kids to Lucan. Hello Eamon, your so-called partners in government are **** things up because tradition.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #258
    anewme
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047912#Comment_122047912

    There is not a Garda Station in Neilstown.

    There is only one Garda Station in the area and that is Ronanstown.




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    #259
    Hotblack Desiato
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    👍️ so you claimed it was two, now you're only claiming one, grand job.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #260
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,899 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047939#Comment_122047939

    you claimed there were two, not me.

    said I only know of one (Ronanstown) and asked you where were the two.

    Unless one has opened very recently and is not listed as a Garda station yet, there is only the one station there has always been.

    Your post says there is a Garda Station in Neilstown and Ronanstown and that’s factually incorrect.

    It does matter in the context of this thread as there are not enough Gardai for an area the size of Clondalkin, which, as you say covers a wide area. It’s been an issue for years.







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    #261
    JP Liz V1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122018600#Comment_122018600

    I hope all involved are got and fully prosecuted even the minor teenagers

    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #262
    suvigirl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047965#Comment_122047965

    There are Garda stations in Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Lucan and Ronanstown.

    Not enough Gardai though



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    #263
    suvigirl
    Registered Users Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047965#Comment_122047965

    Thhere are Garda stations in Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Lucan, Ronanstown,



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    #264
    anewme
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122048908#Comment_122048908

    There are not 2 in the general Neilstown area, which is what the poster said.

    Ronanstown Garda station are notoriously bad for getting back to anyone - just too busy.



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    #265
    MegamanBoo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122048908#Comment_122048908

    The Gardai have bigger priorities now, like locking up people coming in with the wrong paperwork.



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    #266
    suvigirl
    Registered Users Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122049478#Comment_122049478

    I don't get the reference?



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    #267
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122050523#Comment_122050523

    People arriving with no passport etc

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #268
    MegamanBoo
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    Great to see some arrests made.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/josip-strok-murder-arrests-6363804-Apr2024/



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    Ten of Swords
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    Mod - Charges have been filed, this is now before the courts.

    Thread closed

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