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Hair transplant diary (ongoing)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Best thing is to get a consultation with someone reputable here, and hear what they have to say and then make a decision what to do next. No need to spend weeks researching, it's all rather simple, you just need to get on Finasteride/Minox prior to getting a procedure in order to halt further hairloss, and then later go somewhere reputable for the procedure.

    Dr Nel is a good person to get a consultation with, and he can give you the prescription for Fin/Minox.

    https://www.hswclinic.com/



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Omega28


    Thank you everyone for the information. I will definitely do my research on this area before I make any financial decisions. I'm finding the whole experience very stressful and it's magnifying my hair loss, making me very paranoid and unhappy in myself. I seem to be reading more and more horror stories compared to success ones, which isn't helping me. I would prefer to stay in Ireland though to get the procedure done, for obvious reasons.

    I will firstly make an appointment with Dr. Andre Nel to get his opinion and then take it from there.

    Has anyone had any experience with Regaine?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Regaine is just minox, so won't STOP hairloss as Finasteride will. It only helps with the growth of hair (minimally slowing hair loss too), but if you are losing your hair then there is less hair to "help grow"



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Omega28


    I'm going to make an appointment with Dr. Nel and just go from there. No point spending weeks and months researching and stressing out more about it.

    Is there any surgeons out there in Ireland worth going to?



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭wetlandsboy


    I’d recommend Andre Nel. Expensive, but very good.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 765 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    In Ireland, the cost of a hair transplant varies between €4 and €10 per follicular unit grafted, depending on the clinic you choose. I’ve personally visited both Dr. Nel and Blackrock clinics, and I can attest that both are very good and will give you a natural looking hair transplant. While I won’t disclose specific prices online out of fairness to both clinics, I can share that the average hair transplant involves around 1500 grafts for individuals with mild thinning and around 4000 grafts for those with significant hair loss. The extent of coverage achieved depends on each person’s unique hair characteristics so don't just go by what me or anyone says online. For financing options, consider a loan over a 5-7 year term—it’s a practical way to manage the cost.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Omega28


    Has anyone considered GrowClub?



  • Registered Users Posts: 765 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I know absolutely nothing about them but I'm sure like all places they might be worth visiting if they are on your radar. What i'm seeing online looks okay so they would be worth a visit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 ftzr


    I visited a few clinics, but after talking with Dr Kevin in Tna Nog I felt a lot more comfortable about the procedure, and he went into great detail about the after care and medication.
    Mainly treating temples and hair line. Approx 1400 graphs, cost just under €3000. Would like to hear in anyone else had a HT with them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 ftzr


    I think it was €50 for consultation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 765 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I think in Ireland at this point most of the more reputable clinics will get you a good result. Some are better than others at achieving a natural looking hairline but for many people, cost will be a factor. I weighed up cost and quality when picking a clinic so I think it’s always good to dig deep online, and if you can’t visit more than one clinic for a consultation, go with the one who you think offers the best balance of what you want. Make sure there is a doctor doing the surgery and don’t be driven too much by cost. Hair transplants are no longer overly expensive considering that getting a small loan is relatively easy these days. Some places offer loans over 7 years at around 8% APR. Lenders don’t care what a loan is for so just look around for the best rates and repayment times.



  • Registered Users Posts: 765 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Is there anyone who has undergone a combination of hair transplantation and Scalp Micropigmentation (SMP)? I’ve also recently heard about the incorporation of body hair in hair transplants. How long have these procedures been in regular practice? A few years ago, when I consulted with HRBR, there was no discussion about these treatments.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Most good surgeons will have the option of body hair.Beard hair is the most commonly used by far as it mimics the characteristics of scalp hair the nearest. Chest hair is also used but isn't as effective as the growth cycle is much different .Body hair should not be used in the hairline but more in the midscalp and crown.

    I was advised to use some beard during my 2nd HT but I didn't want to (managed to get enough from scalp anyway)

    The pros

    It give you more donor area to harvest.Shockloss rarely occurs in the beard donor and the area recovers quicker than scalp donor.it gives people an option when they don't have sufficient donor (be that through multiple previous surgeries, a botched HT or other factors)

    The Cons

    Beard hair is much more coarse and thick,you can usually feel the difference by touching but wouldn't notice to look at obviously. It's extremely rare to have multi hair beard follicles so beard hair will all be single hair grafts.

    All things considered it wasn't for me but luckily I had sufficient scalp donor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 765 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Everything you are saying seems to be pretty consistent with what I've experienced. I have a short supply of donor hair so this is perhaps why it was brought to my attention. What about hair transplant combined with SMP? Is that becoming more common? Again, I wasn't aware it was used along with a hair transplant until recently. Again, presumably for those who are balding more severely and don't have enough donor hair.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭HBC08


    With SMP it is used in two ways.Firstly on a completely bald head to give the illusion of stubble,secondly on thin hair or diffuse thinning.

    The former doesn't look great in my opinion, you can always tell its fake.The latter is better and can be very subtle and effective.

    I never looked into it too much as its not something I was interested in so can't recommend any practitioners.



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭wetlandsboy


    I had SMP immediately prior (well, 3 months) to my ht. I think it works very well, given that it really is all about the illusion of hair density. The surgeon’s team did the SMP.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Yeah recommend SMP all the way, just make sure they do it dark enough as it goes a slightly lighter colour once absorbed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 765 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    The SMP thing is new to me. Can I ask, how does it last long term? What if my hair turns completely grey over time? I presume they match the pigment to your existing hair colour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Lasts around 7 years, as long as not exposed to too much sunshine. It works best when you have hair you can cover over the area as this also protects against the sun.

    It basically shades the area that is covered so if you go grey it would look like your roots are dark and should blend well, or of course you can dye your hair.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭ebayissues


    Going over to Istanbul in the next couple of months to get HT done. Told colleagues and will be wfh for 1/2weeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,160 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Just reading through the thread has anyone else any experience on the topical spray of fin+minox from hims.co.uk?
    I’ve just started my second bottle so I’m about 3 months in and I’m noticing some regrowth in my crown and hairline.
    A free people have also commented on it.
    Im also taking biotin and magnesium every morning, but aside from that nothing else.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Taking it about 3 months myself. Definitely noticed a lot more clumps of hair in the shower compared to when I was on the tablets, but on the other hand lots of side effects of the tablets have practically gone now.

    I have the 2 bottles so going to see how it fairs after 6 months.



  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭THEFRIDGE


    Ok, firstly thank you all for this wonderful information all in one thread. I have spent 2 days reading it. I am a 43 year old with hair loss(Ive always had a high forehead but have noticed it getting worse) I am considering a HT abroad as I cannot afford it here.

    I have contacted many many clinics in Turkey and have got myself into a head spin now.

    Sule- firnd had it done here, but I have ruled it out now

    Smile- Seems available whenever but now having read the tread they don't have a good rep.

    Dr Cinik- can get a date in June.

    FueCapilar- Waiting on a price.

    HOI- was 2k more than the others

    Vera Clinic- can't find much about them

    Dr. Serkan Aygin-

    Does anyone have any experience with these ? Also I am not sure I am prepared to take medication so if that's the case am I better off not having a transplant at all?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Yeah you really do need to take the meds (oral or topical) to prevent (or slow) further loss. Your transplanted hair will not fall out, but the hair around it may fall out leaving islands of hair on your head in which case you will probably revert to shaving the head after all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭THEFRIDGE


    would it be meds for a few months or life , thats the question



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Meds for life.

    There's different things to consider here.

    You'd certainly be looking at finesteride for the long term and minoxidil would be recommended too.You can get both of these in oral or topical form.

    There are pros and cons to both.

    Topical minoxidil is available over the counter in the form of Rogaine.Its a pain to use and makes a mess of your hair.

    Oral minoxidil is more effective and less hassle,its generally accepted its more effective. You will need a prescription and there's a bigger chance of side effects Recommend dosage is 2.5mg to 5mg

    Topical finesteride (I haven't actually used this) but its a spray,not sure if it makes a mess etc Less chance of sides but less effective. Can be obtained legally with online prescription

    Oral finesteride is handy to take,bigger chance of side effects (big range of sides and I've had a lot of them but not the more serious ones) Recommended dosage varies but usually .5mg to 1mg daily.

    There are sprays out there that combine the two also in a Topical form.

    From my own experience the more effective form of the meds are the ones most likely to give sides.Maybe you won't get any,maybe like me you'll get some but be happy with the trade off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭THEFRIDGE


    Only from reading here did I read about the Meds. Friend had it done in Sule and is taking no meds. I did ask him why but he seemed unaware.

    Im not sure I'd be prepared to take meds for life if I'm honest. if it was a spray I could be interested more

    Is this something that could be used ?

    https://sons.ie/product/the-non-prescription-plan?_gl=1*1lvg99t*_up*MQ..&gclid=CjwKCAjwl4yyBhAgEiwADSEjeK9YlRYlIFUM4DvY8mHmKouddcerGUKClIqpXUWRmNasX3eLtzdG1BoCtwgQAvD_BwE



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭HBC08


    They are herbal alternatives.

    Biotin doesn't do much if anything in relation to hairloss,its keeps your hair in good condition and your fingernails will grow faster!

    You can get the proper meds in spray form, you can even get both meds in one spray.



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