Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Seems like Chasiv Yar is in trouble. There's been footage of russian SU34s flying overhead providing close air support with impunity.

Sooner the aid (assuming AA ammo included) arrives, the better.

I think we've got it at this stage. You're delighted Ukraine is getting weapons but you're inordinately concerned about the USA balancing its books in the long term.

I presume you're all over the Donald Trump thread so, what with his unfunded tax cuts for billionaires?

Why would China want to destroy europe?

This really is a conversation for another thread (and another forum really) but large economies that have their own central banks are not pocket books. Everything doesn't need to add up and everything doesn't need to be paid back. All of that debt that the Americans have accumulated will never be paid back fully.

A certain type of politician (usually a Republican) brings it up as an excuse when something that they don't wish to fund gets proposed. When it comes to tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the wealthy (such as Trump's only major piece of legislation which cost $1.9 Trillion over 10 years) they suddenly aren't bothered about the national debt.

I don't buy this.

We're not in a world war. Countries the far side of globe have no more care for the war in Ukraine than European countries during the gulf wars. Saying that China is allied to Russia because they're profiteering from the war is an incorrect analysis I believe.

If the Russians really are behind any of these parties they haven't been spending their money well

The political activist and former top Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, has openly talked about how he's helping prop up right wing movements throughout Europe.

There's probably more than just Russia who would like to see Europe lapse into right-wing authoritarianism. Not that it matters as this should be resisted whoever is trying to push it because the 'solution' it offers is worse than the problems it claims it would solve when all is said and done.

We can see that pretty much every pro-Russian agitator in the West won't actually go live in Russia. What they admire about the place is the embedded in-group/out-group dynamic. Something they hope to replicate in their respective home countries.

Fu.

Cking.

Hell.

Putin's boy soldiers.

For a country with a population less than Germany and France combined. They really do see themselves as some kind of last Nazi military expansionist up their own hole country. Considered themselves as second to the USA at one stage too I believe.

Thanks… so it's 410,000 casualties (probably closer to 450,000 now) of which 180,000 are killed (again, probably north of 190,000 by now)? 180,000 to 200,000 dead a staggering amount of humans that one man is prepared to sacrifice for his personal thirst for power. Few other nations on earth would tolerate those kind of losses. All for what? Nothing. Even total victory on the battlefield in 2024/ 2025 will not see Russia hold Ukraine for more than 10/ 15 years before the next generational/ societal/ political shift sees it revert back to independence. All those lives lost for nothing.