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Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

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  • #782
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,326 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121938248#Comment_121938248

    More or less at the moment, would you put any money on any other team to win?



  • #783
    Davys Fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121938102#Comment_121938102

    Paddy Power has 5 teams in both codes <10/1



  • #784
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Emyln Mulligan on off the ball today, he said there is no enjoyment for gaelic football forwards anymore so thats the reason he isn't pushed about going back playing club football. "no space in front of goal to score so you are just making space for the guys coming in to score" and that guy is one of the best forwards in the last 15 years.



  • #785
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Kieran McGeeney was on Off the Ball last Sunday, saying the opposite. He recognises that there are good games and bad games, but thinks the modern game is far ahead in general of the old style. Today on Radio Ulster, Oisin McConville, Garvan Jones and others had a good discussion without any crying about handpassing. Jones made a very simple but very important point. The longer a team has possession of the ball, the bigger their chance of getting a positive result.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hm4fvy



  • #786
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957115#Comment_121957115

    I’d take the opinions of a Fermanagh player with a pinch of salt.

    Nobody is crying about handpassing, it’s excessive handpassing is the issue.

    Strange you think that Ulster football people are the ones best to evaluate todays game.

    ‘Turgid’ is the kindest word most football people refer to it as.



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  • #787
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957187#Comment_121957187

    Do you endorse the reported opinion of Emlyn Mulligan?



  • #788
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957195#Comment_121957195

    It’s his opinion, not a question of ‘endorsing’ it.

    Tomorrows game in the league 1 final will tell us a lot.



  • #789
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957213#Comment_121957213

    Jones has a very positive outlook on his football career at present. He scored 1-7 against Cavan from full forward. But Mulligan (if he was reported honestly), is harking back to bygone days where only the forwards got the scores. And the new game is not to his liking.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0323/1439558-fermanagh-flourish-in-cavan-but-still-suffer-relegation/



  • #790
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    I saw Mulligan kick a sideline ball over the bar against Laois in a qualifier game once, peach of a score, he certainly wasnt afraid to have a shot unlike lots of current players.



  • #791
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I wouldn’t blame the players too much p, any individuality is ‘coached’ out of them.

    If you don’t conform to the ideas of the lads with the clipboards, you will be off the panel.

    Every element of ‘chance’ is ironed out of the game by the so called ‘back room team’ .

    Lookit … the don’t even kick the ball into the net anymore , just push it in with the hands to

    eliminate any chance of a block.

    That’s why the game has deteriorated so much as a spectacle in many respects.



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  • #792
    flasher0030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121958235#Comment_121958235

    Are you suggesting that the game has deteriorated so much because players can punch the ball into a net for a goal?

    If I recall correctly, a few decades ago there was a time when players could actually handpass the ball into the net. Open to correction on that one.



  • #793
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,047 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121958235#Comment_121958235

    Ironically, your incessant repetition that the game is shite is the message boards equivalent of constant handpassing.

    Achieves nothing and nobody wants to watch it.



  • #794
    Treble double
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Scrap this thread what a final, like every sport when played by the top teams the product is quality



  • #795
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121958786#Comment_121958786

    No.



  • #796
    Jizique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,222 ✭✭✭Jizique


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121960103#Comment_121960103

    Indeed - game for the ages, two top teams going at it and one team deciding not to give Dublin their kickouts



  • #797
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121958917#Comment_121958917

    It’s my opinion dude, and I stand by it.

    Changes need to be made that could eliminate the bore fest a lot of games are.

    You need to wise up my friend, ,the game itself is not shïte, but the way some teams play it is.

    There were disgraceful scenes in Croke Park today, no doubt about that , but the game itself was played

    in a way which was very entertaining.

    Teams doesn’t have to be in the top tier to play like that, I dispute that assertion straight away.



  • #798
    Brendan Bendar
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    Jim’s big look into Gaelic Football starting this weekend .

    Hopefully they take a sharp knife to the some of stuff in vogue right now.

    Changes needed…..



  • #799
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It is clear that the OP of this thread and some of the contributors do not enjoy watching football. It is a chore for them rather than a source of joy. Jarlath seems happy enough with what we have at present. The "enhancements" can't include a limit to the number of handpasses, because this has been rejected by the players.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0405/1441928-gavin-targets-2025-for-trialing-of-rule-enhancements/

    "But as for the potential for them to recommend wide-reaching changes to the way football is played, Burns said it was also possible to leave the game largely intact.

    "The committee might decide to make no change at all because even the defensive game at times, with the goalkeeper going forward, can be very enjoyable to watch because you're waiting for a break and when it breaks the goalkeeper's up and you can see everybody scampering back," he said.

    "That can be enjoyable. We're after witnessing maybe two or three of the best games we've seen in a long time, particularly the Division 1 league final.

    "So there are a lot of very valid arguments out there to do nothing to the game, but most of the correspondence I've had since I became president have been specifically on the rules of Gaelic football."



  • #800
    Brendan Bendar
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    https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0304/1435755-issues-facing-football-review-committee/


    Hmmmmm…

    Fitzmaurice seems to think changes are needed.



  • #801
    flasher0030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121982577#Comment_121982577

    He proposed having a shot clock. It is fine having those facilities at intercounty matches and senior football games where there is a large amount of personnel involved to spread the chores around to. But what about every junior B game and underage games where volunteer numbers are very low, and sometimes it can be a struggle to get someone to do linesman or umpires. If they bring in changes, they need to be practical in terms of the GAA community in its entirety - not just a focus on intercounty and RTE viewing numbers.



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  • #802
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121983754#Comment_121983754

    I’m sure those lads under the tutelage of Jim Gavin will take all those points into consideration.

    Discussion coming up on Saturday Sport RTE radio on football…..perhaps the rules will be mentioned.



  • #803
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fitzmaurice was part of that discussion. I think it was him who mentioned that all stakeholders are entitled to participate in a Survey. Everyone in the world can be a stakeholder. There is a link to the Survey here.

    https://www.gaa.ie/article/football-review-committee-proposals-to-be-trialled-in-2025-league-and-championship



  • #804
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Seems Jarlath is anxious to limit the clipboard merchants influence on the game.

    Wants it to be the most attractive amateur field sport in the world.

    Hope they have the cahunas to weed them out and let the game flow and achieve that.



  • #805
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,298 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    No need for clipboards these days.

    https://pro.statsports.com/gaa/

    The lads on the radio today were talking about having Sleep Coaches in GAA, like they do in some professional sports. S & C has reached such a high level, that the recovery time is now being regulated as much as the training time.



  • #806
    Jizique
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    Not much wrong with Derry v Donegal



  • #807
    megadodge
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043680#Comment_122043680

    Wait for Brendan on a Bender to come back with the repetitive drunken rant about all the handpasses.



  • #808
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Delighted to see the Derry goalkeeper caught out 3 times 😂 its about time this fade of the outfield goalkeeper was targeted. will it stop him coming out I wonder. There is no need for the goalkeeper to be playing out the field but the consequences of getting caught up the field are serious and not worth the risk in my opinion.



  • #809
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Watching Roscommon v Mayo 🤦‍♂️ it is more like Rugby these days, rubbish, turning it off now after only a couple of minutes.



  • #810
    carq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭carq


    football is muck.

    Everyone knows it.

    left wing, backwards to goalie, to the right wing , handpass, handpass, to the corner, backwards again, To the middle , back to the left , a one two, shoooot! No, handpass backwards to the middle, to the right again, shoot , wide


    short kickout



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  • #811
    Piskin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Piskin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122046347#Comment_122046347

    It's the blanket defence that is the main problem. It has destroyed the game!!



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